Texas Cop beats and tases 76 yr old over expired inspection sticker

[master_shake_]

never prove a cop wrong.

you'll end up in a bloody pile.

they are infallible don't ya know.

“Public trust is extremely important to us,” Craig said, hoping that his apology will keep his department from getting sued.

the quote to end all quotes

just fucking wow.

oh officer...

don't scuff your jack boots.

 

[Victorian Gray]

..or Victorian Gray is here to take his shift

That officer should be fired..period.
or charged with elderly abuse..either one..

???

 

[schmuckley]

There is no justifiable reason why a 23-yr old man should beat a 76-year old one.Maybe 1 or 2 blows in a serious situation (life-threatening).
Anything past that is egregious.
I'm glad it's not in my town.

 

[master_shake_]

There is no justifiable reason why a 23-yr old man should beat a 76-year old one.Maybe 1 or 2 blows in a serious situation (life-threatening).
Anything past that is egregious.
I'm glad it's not in my town.

obviously there is.

he didn't have a sticker.

 

[JEDIYoda]

His handlers must feel AT is no longer a priority for some reason.

or he is on the night shift and must sleep during the day!! To protect and serve....

 

[mizzou]

Cop should be shot for his actions. Send a real message to other cops who might be assholes

Also, just on a side note...why do we not moderate comments like this? If the subject of the comment was simply changed...it would be instant vacation.

*insert race* should be shot for their actions. Send a real message to other *insert race* who might be assholes

Am I being too sensitive here? I just feel like we need to be showing a bit more respect when we talk about all kinds of people, and that includes people of certain professions like teachers, lawyers, and doctors. I've been noticing several comments like this where posters either directly or vaguely suggest violence against numerous people as a course of action.

At the very least, don't let this shit spread on P&N

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Also, just on a side note...why do we not moderate comments like this? If the subject of the comment was simply changed...it would be instant vacation.



Am I being too sensitive here? I just feel like we need to be showing a bit more respect when we talk about all kinds of people, and that includes people of certain professions like teachers, lawyers, and doctors. I've been noticing several comments like this where posters either directly or vaguely suggest violence against numerous people as a course of action.

At the very least, don't let this shit spread on P&N

This was an extreme comment, no doubt about it. Waaaay over the top. Just like the people who support shooting someone to death because they are holding a gun or because they made a furtive movement when chosen ones are nearby. Just like the people who support shooting a "violent thug" to death because they deserve it. Why, when the violent thug wears a uniform, does it become too much for those same people who supported shooting thugs? Shouldn't it always be too much outside of extreme cases of self defense?

 

[xj0hnx]

In Victoria, Texas a police officer was just recorded beating and tasering a 76-year-old man who called the cop a “Goddamned Nazi Stormtrooper.” These sound like pretty harsh words until you find out that the officer was harassing the man for an expired inspection sticker, even though the vehicle had dealer tags which makes it completely exempt from such stickers.


The 23-year-old cop was placed on administrative leave on Friday after beating and tasering Pete Vasquez.

Vasquez was driving a work-owned dealer vehicle on Thursday when Officer Nathanial Robinson started harassing him. When Vasquez explained the exemption to the cop, Robinson became enraged.

Actually, it isn't exempt, one of the very first things a dealer does when they get a new car is called a PDI, Pre Delivery Inspection, this includes, in Texas, where I work at a dealer, the inspection sticker. Vehicles are exempt from the Registration Sticker since it takes time for the state to process the new owners registration, but they have to have current inspection.

 

[dmcowen674]

Actually, it isn't exempt, one of the very first things a dealer does when they get a new car is called a PDI, Pre Delivery Inspection, this includes, in Texas, where I work at a dealer, the inspection sticker. Vehicles are exempt from the Registration Sticker since it takes time for the state to process the new owners registration, but they have to have current inspection.

So that makes the beating and Tasing OK?

 

[master_shake_]

Actually, it isn't exempt, one of the very first things a dealer does when they get a new car is called a PDI, Pre Delivery Inspection, this includes, in Texas, where I work at a dealer, the inspection sticker. Vehicles are exempt from the Registration Sticker since it takes time for the state to process the new owners registration, but they have to have current inspection.

i don't live in texas and im not a dealer or american for that matter but im certain that when a police chief from victoria texas says

Victoria Police Chief J.J. Craig confirmed that while an expired inspection sticker is usually addressed with a citation, cars with dealer tags are exempt.

he might know a thing or 2 on the matter.

just saying is all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...over-for-a-non-existent-inspection-violation/

again just a canadian with the ability to read.

 

[xj0hnx]

So that makes the beating and Tasing OK?

No, but it does make it shoddy reporting.

i don't live in texas and im not a dealer or american for that matter but im certain that when a police chief from victoria texas says

he might know a thing or 2 on the matter.

just saying is all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...over-for-a-non-existent-inspection-violation/

again just a canadian with the ability to read.

Sorry, but just because someone is a cop, even a chief, doesn't mean they know every law, as a matter of fact, I can't believe how many I have seen that don't know laws. He is correct that it is normally handled with a ticket, which if it wasn't required, wouldn't normally be "handled with a citation". I'm sorry, but one of the first things that needs to be done to a car is to have the inspection done, on top of insurance, dealer tags or not. Dealer tags are good for 90 days, you can not wait 90 days to get the vehicle inspected (that's if it is a used vehicle which are usually given a grace period, which seems to be determined by the cop that pulls you over, new vehicles come with dealer supplied inspection stickers). So no, simply having dealer tags does not exempt a vehicle from having to have an inspection.

 

[Zorkorist]

You don't open the door, and step out on a cop pulling you over. Especially when he tells you to stay inside the car.

From that moment on, it is an adversarial relationship, and COP wins, etc.

-John

 

[master_shake_]

No, but it does make it shoddy reporting.



Sorry, but just because someone is a cop, even a chief, doesn't mean they know every law, as a matter of fact, I can't believe how many I have seen that don't know laws. He is correct that it is normally handled with a ticket, which if it wasn't required, wouldn't normally be "handled with a citation". I'm sorry, but one of the first things that needs to be done to a car is to have the inspection done, on top of insurance, dealer tags or not. Dealer tags are good for 90 days, you can not wait 90 days to get the vehicle inspected (that's if it is a used vehicle which are usually given a grace period, which seems to be determined by the cop that pulls you over, new vehicles come with dealer supplied inspection stickers). So no, simply having dealer tags does not exempt a vehicle from having to have an inspection.

he's a cop. you are some guy,

you lose.,

 

[xj0hnx]

he's a cop. you are some guy,

you lose.,

Some guy that works at a dealership. Believe what ever you want, doesn't matter to me, or change anything. Doesn't really matter anyway, we are getting rid of inspection sticker, and combining registration, and inspection into one sticker in March.

 

[master_shake_]

Some guy that works at a dealership. Believe what ever you want, doesn't matter to me, or change anything.

he's still a cop.

what are you not getting?

find that law and post it then i will believe you.

 

[xj0hnx]

he's still a cop.

what are you not getting?

find that law and post it then i will believe you.

https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/vi/misc/faq/viFAQ.htm

Inspection Grace Period
There is a five (5) day grace period for motorists to get their inspection sticker. An inspection certificate expires on the last day of the month that is indicated on the windshield. Therefore, you have until the 5th day of the following month to have your car inspected.

Here is a list of exemptions ...


What's Inspected by Vehicle Type

Items of Inspection for a Exempt Vehicles

15.01 Vehicles Exempt from Inspection

1. Equipment:
a. Road-Building Equipment
b. Farm Machinery
*c. Trailers
*d. Semitrailers
*e. Pole Trailers
*f. Mobile Homes
g. Any Vehicle required to Display a Slow-Moving Vehicle Emblem
*When the actual gross weight or registered gross weight is 4,500 pounds or less.

2. A vehicle with one of the following type Texas license plates:
a. Paper Dealer Demonstration/In-transit/Converter Tag
b. Parade License
c. Former Military Vehicle License
d. In-Transit License
e. Machinery License
f. Disaster License
g. Farm Trailer License
h. Permit License
i. Antique License
j. Charitable Organization Tag
k. All-Terrain Vehicle Validation Sticker

3. A vehicle with one of the following Texas permits:
a. Factory Delivery Permits
b. Prorate Tabs
c. One-Trip Permits
d. Temporary 24-Hour Permits
e. Mobile drilling and servicing equipment used in gas, oil, or crude production having a 72- or 144-Hour Permit

As you can see Dealer DEMONSTATION is exempt, not temp dealer plates for a purchase vehicle.

It's just a fact, you have to get an inspection when you buy a vehicle, technically within 5 days, but some cops with let you slide, I've heard up to a month due to that they are supposedly good until the end of the printed month, and maybe you bought it on the first ...maybe.

 

[master_shake_]

https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/vi/misc/faq/viFAQ.htm

Inspection Grace Period
There is a five (5) day grace period for motorists to get their inspection sticker. An inspection certificate expires on the last day of the month that is indicated on the windshield. Therefore, you have until the 5th day of the following month to have your car inspected.

but that was a dealer.

not a motorist.

is there not a difference?

 

[xj0hnx]

but that was a dealer.

not a motorist.

is there not a difference?

Dealers should inspect the vehicles, used dealers don't have to, but most do, if they don't, the purchaser has five days to get it inspected the same as if they bought it from a private individual. This guy wasn't a dealer driving a dealer demo I don't think.

 

[master_shake_]

Dealers should inspect the vehicles, used dealers don't have to, but most do, if they don't, the purchaser has five days to get it inspected the same as if they bought it from a private individual. This guy wasn't a dealer driving a dealer demo I don't think.

Vasquez got out of the car, which is owned by the car lot, attempting to get the manager. He pointed out to the officer the dealer tags on the back of the car, which would make it exempt from having an inspection.

The internal investigation also will examine the details of the arrest. Driving with an expired inspection sticker is a Class C misdemeanor, typically addressed with a citation. Because Vasquez was driving a car with dealer tags, the car was exempt, Craig confirmed. Vasquez was released from the hospital without being cited.

https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/ne...ia-police-officer-investigated-for-tasing-dr/

it was a dealer owned vehicle

 

[xj0hnx]

Was he test driving it? Where was the salesman? Had he bought it and was going back to the dealer for something? If it's a car he just bought, yea, it's technically still owned by the dealer until he's paid for it. A better reporting of the situation would be appreciated because this is a pretty crappy one.

 

[master_shake_]

Was he test driving it? Where was the salesman? Had he bought it and was going back to the dealer for something? If it's a car he just bought, yea, it's technically still owned by the dealer until he's paid for it. A better reporting of the situation would be appreciated because this is a pretty crappy one.

this is something we can both agree on.

 

[Jhhnn]

Was he test driving it? Where was the salesman? Had he bought it and was going back to the dealer for something? If it's a car he just bought, yea, it's technically still owned by the dealer until he's paid for it. A better reporting of the situation would be appreciated because this is a pretty crappy one.

The article is fairly clear. Vasquez works for the Dealer who owns the car which almost certainly had dealer demonstration tags. It's common practice all over America for dealers to allow employees to use such vehicles, move them around from place to place, whatever. Perfectly legal. This isn't Vasquez's first rodeo- he's probably driven a lot of cars with dealer plates.

Vasquez didn't call the cop a nazi, but one of his coworkers did after the fact. I think the dashcam video was taken on the Dealer's lot.

The guy in the uniform is a stiff dick idiot who needs to be fired.

 

[trenchfoot]

I've gotten pulled over at least a dozen times for speeding over a period of ~40 years in four different states and not ever gotten a speeding ticket, got roughed up or got harassed in any way.

All I had to do was remain calm, obey the officer's instructions, STAY IN THE CAR and sincerely accept responsibility for my actions and offer up whatever clever excuse I could come up with if asked why I was speeding (I drive a Vette even). I've also learned never to anticipate the officer's instructions and go digging in the glove compartment for required documentation until asked, as I was once accused of hiding contraband and/or reaching for a piece. I also have the local police union's decal plastered on a non-obstructing part of my windshield and so far, a little luck on my side.

Yeh, I'm more than willing to take some shit and humble myself to avoid a confrontation that will never ever end up in my favor, including eating a big bump in my insurance rate.

But it just seems the logical thing to do.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I've gotten pulled over at least a dozen times for speeding over a period of ~40 years in four different states and not ever gotten a speeding ticket, got roughed up or got harassed in any way.

All I had to do was remain calm, obey the officer's instructions, STAY IN THE CAR and sincerely accept responsibility for my actions and offer up whatever clever excuse I could come up with if asked why I was speeding (I drive a Vette even). I've also learned never to anticipate the officer's instructions and go digging in the glove compartment for required documentation until asked, as I was once accused of hiding contraband and/or reaching for a piece. I also have the local police union's decal plastered on a non-obstructing part of my windshield and so far, a little luck on my side.

Yeh, I'm more than willing to take some shit and humble myself to avoid a confrontation that will never ever end up in my favor, including eating a big bump in my insurance rate.

But it just seems the logical thing to do.

FBI statistics show that roughly half of all traffic stops result in tickets. The chances of not getting a traffic ticket in more than 12 straight traffic stops are astronomically low. Something like 0.02%.

Could there be another reason you've never gotten a ticket? Some kind of professional courtesy you perhaps request?

 

[mizzou]

FBI statistics show that roughly half of all traffic stops result in tickets. The chances of not getting a traffic ticket in more than 12 straight traffic stops are astronomically low. Something like 0.02%.

Could there be another reason you've never gotten a ticket? Some kind of professional courtesy you perhaps request?

is it really half? I thought it was way way lower then that. Some agencies issue citation "Warnings" i wonder if it includes that.