Texas changes School Books wording defining Marriage for Man & Woman Only 11-6-2004

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11-6-2004 Health Textbooks in Texas to Change Wording About Marriage

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) ? The Texas Board of Education approved new health textbooks for the state's high school and middle school students Friday after the publishers agreed to change the wording to depict marriage as the union of a man and a woman.

Glencoe/McGraw-Hill, changed phrases such as "when two people marry" and "partners" to "when a man and a woman marry" and "husbands and wives."

The publisher does not plan on adding its definition of marriage in books that will be sold outside Texas.

Board member Mary Helen Berlanga, a Democrat, asked the panel to approve the books without the changes, but her proposal was rejected on a 10-4 vote.

"We're not supposed to make changes at somebody's whim," Berlanga said. "It's a political agenda, and we're not here to follow a political agenda."

Board member Terri Leo, a Republican, said she was pleased with the publishers' changes. She had led the effort to get the publishers to change the texts, objecting to what she called "asexual stealth phrases" such as "individuals who marry."

"Marriage has been defined in Texas, so it should also be defined in our health textbooks that we use as marriage between a man and a woman," Leo said.

Texas lawmakers last year passed a law that prohibits the state from recognizing same-sex civil unions.
 

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They'll never be much of an influence in the Blue States. If the People in the Red States want to have values based on an Archaic Myth created by Sheepherders to keep other Sheepherders from buggering their flock, more power to them.
 

MidasKnight

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They'll never be much of an influence in the Blue States.


Really ? think so ?

Oregon Measure 36:

Ban Same-Sex Marriage



Yes 979,049 57%

No 742,442 43%

 

MidasKnight

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By the way ....

Democratic Kerry 890,698 52%

Republican Bush 823,210 48%

I think Oregon fits into the " Blue State " theme.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: MidasKnight
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They'll never be much of an influence in the Blue States.


Really ? think so ?

Oregon Measure 36:

Ban Same-Sex Marriage



Yes 979,049 57%

No 742,442 43%
DOH!! You are right. Nevermind;)
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They'll never be much of an influence in the Blue States. If the People in the Red States want to have values based on an Archaic Myth created by Sheepherders to keep other Sheepherders from buggering their flock, more power to them.

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Jesus protect me from those who proclaim to follow you!

Jesus Red, it should be pretty clear by now that the Bible Belt is making it all the way to the Canadian border very soon.
 

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Yup, with gay bigotry we are as evolved as we were with blacks before the Civil war. People haven't had time to see how sick they are to feel ashamed. It is still quite acceptable to be a gay bashing bigot. And the bigots are on the march. The Dark Side is flexing its power.
 

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Originally posted by: MidasKnight
By the way ....

Democratic Kerry 890,698 52%

Republican Bush 823,210 48%

I think Oregon fits into the " Blue State " theme.

Well, that's true. There are some light blue and light red states.
 

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I'm liberal but I really don't see anything wrong with the text books. When I was a young kid, being gay was a taboo and its obvious that most people still believe in that. If the democratic party didn't pander to the gays, they would have probably won one or two states in the south.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I'm liberal but I really don't see anything wrong with the text books. When I was a young kid, being gay was a taboo and its obvious that most people still believe in that. If the democratic party didn't pander to the gays, they would have probably won one or two states in the south.

Oh I see, Rights is pandering now.

Abe Lincoln Pandered so all African Americans should be enslaved again immediately.

 

MidasKnight

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I personally know several Democrats voters that voted for this measure and are not religious by definition. They just wanted to see marriage defined by the States Constitution in this way. Probably just from traditional thinking.

This is not a " in your face " type of reply but I think it shows that even in a " very " liberal State like Oregon people do not want marriage redefined. This new Constitutional amendment does " not " stop Civil Unions though as people here are fine with that.
 

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I'm liberal but I really don't see anything wrong with the text books. When I was a young kid, being gay was a taboo and its obvious that most people still believe in that. If the democratic party didn't pander to the gays, they would have probably won one or two states in the south.



And I agree.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: MidasKnight
This new Constitutional amendment does " not " stop Civil Unions though as people here are fine with that.

You obviously have not read the ammendment you are in favor of. It certainly does not only Ban Civil Unions but invalidates all Civil Unions previously done.

WTF, come on people, at least read your Agenda and Propaganda you are pushing.

You people are going from Brainwashed to literally being puppets on string.
 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They'll never be much of an influence in the Blue States. If the People in the Red States want to have values based on an Archaic Myth created by Sheepherders to keep other Sheepherders from buggering their flock, more power to them.

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Jesus protect me from those who proclaim to follow you!

Jesus Red, it should be pretty clear by now that the Bible Belt is making it all the way to the Canadian border very soon.

Bullsh!t. Ignorance is the factor here, not religion though an argument can probably be made that they go hand in hand. I bet most of those who voted against it in Oregon probably don't even know any Gays and if they do they keep them at arms length. I know that before I actually met gays and had to work with them, which helped me realize that they're people just like the rest of us, I was homophobic too. In fact I guess I still am to a degree as I like to make jokes about them. However I realize that I am wrong and just because I'm ignorant doesn't mean they should pay the price for my ignorance.
 

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Let me help you Dave:

AMENDS CONSTITUTION: ONLY MARRIAGE BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN IS VALID OR LEGALLY RECOGNIZED AS MARRIAGE

RESULT OF "YES" VOTE: "Yes" vote adds to Oregon constitution declaration of policy that only marriage between one man and one woman is valid or legally recognized as marriage.

RESULT OF "NO" VOTE: "No" vote retains existing constitution without a provision declaring that only marriage between one man and one woman is valid or legally recognized as marriage.

SUMMARY: Amends constitution. Oregon statutes currently provide that marriage is a civil contract entered into in person between individuals of the opposite sex, that is, between males and females at least 17 years of age who solemnize the marriage by declaring "they take each other to be husband and wife." The existing Oregon Constitution contains no provision governing marriage. Currently, the State of Oregon recognizes out-of-state marriages that are valid in the state where performed, unless the marriage violates a strong public policy of Oregon. Measure adds to Oregon Constitution a declaration that the policy of the State of Oregon and its political subdivisions is that "only a marriage between one man and one woman shall be valid or legally recognized as a marriage."
 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I'm liberal but I really don't see anything wrong with the text books. When I was a young kid, being gay was a taboo and its obvious that most people still believe in that. If the democratic party didn't pander to the gays, they would have probably won one or two states in the south.

Oh I see, Rights is pandering now.

Abe Lincoln Pandered so all African Americans should be enslaved again immediately.


Gay people are not enslaved and they can vote. That is such an awful comparison. I'm just sick of this gay agenda being pushed down my throat. This is such a stupid issue that is bringing down the democratic party. We are quickly becoming the party of homosexuals and outcasts.
 

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You know what I am wondering about? How does this affect people who have sex changes?
 

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I'm liberal but I really don't see anything wrong with the text books. When I was a young kid, being gay was a taboo and its obvious that most people still believe in that. If the democratic party didn't pander to the gays, they would have probably won one or two states in the south.

Oh I see, Rights is pandering now.

Abe Lincoln Pandered so all African Americans should be enslaved again immediately.


Gay people are not enslaved and they can vote. That is such an awful comparison. I'm just sick of this gay agenda being pushed down my throat. This is such a stupid issue that is bringing down the democratic party. We are quickly becoming the party of homosexuals and outcasts.

You have an aching ulcer in your soul Barney and the pain and guilt it causes you gets projected out on the world as an agenda being shoved down your throat. All that's really happening is you feeling your guilt every time you come in contact with this issue and it triggers it.
 

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You know what I am wondering about? How does this affect people who have sex changes?

In Texas you can get married based on your birth sex.

Get this, there is a mod at arstechnica. I remember this from back when I used to hang out there.

He got a sex change and became a she.

She later turned into a lesbian. Irony.

She got married because she according to Texas was a "he."
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I'm liberal but I really don't see anything wrong with the text books. When I was a young kid, being gay was a taboo and its obvious that most people still believe in that. If the democratic party didn't pander to the gays, they would have probably won one or two states in the south.

Oh I see, Rights is pandering now.

Abe Lincoln Pandered so all African Americans should be enslaved again immediately.
Gay people are not enslaved and they can vote. That is such an awful comparison. I'm just sick of this gay agenda being pushed down my throat. This is such a stupid issue that is bringing down the democratic party. We are quickly becoming the party of homosexuals and outcasts.

There is no "Gay Agenda" being rammed down your throat. You sound like my family member and all the Church folk screaming that the Gays are going to bust their front door in to convert them.

I guess that Blacks beoing considered human and women being considered equal to emn that they can vote were "Agendas" rammed down your throat and busted your door in to convert as well.
 

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Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: classy
You know what I am wondering about? How does this affect people who have sex changes?

In Texas you can get married based on your birth sex.

Get this, there is a mod at arstechnica. I remember this from back when I used to hang out there.

He got a sex change and became a she.

She later turned into a lesbian. Irony.

She got married because she according to Texas was a "he."

so my sex chromosomes are XXY. you make the call.

see where this is all leading? 'birth sex' is irrelevant when a person has a penis, adams apple, and facial hair when they are mentally and emotionally a female. are they going to conduct genital exams before issuing marriage licenses now?