tested positive for Hep B :-(

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: chusteczka

Originally posted by: senseamp
Are you a doctor? Then stick to NOT giving medical advice, especially one related to a dangerous viral infection.

The OP asked the unqualified people in this forum for assistance and advice. I presume he will obtain legitimate advice from a certified doctor in which he can discuss this option for his specific circumstance. It is not bad to know the varying possibilities beforehand. Especially since each doctor is unique and may provide a different method of treatment with varying results.

Additionally, I have yet to see the hepatitis virus treated effectively here in the US and believe the drug reliance in this country overrides common sense and logical "alternative" treatment.

:roll: Really, you mean a lot of people in the US don't go up to you and talk about their hepatitis treatment? It's shocking. China has a lot of "alternative" treatment, and also happens to have 10% Hepatitis B infection rate. I would stick with Western medicine if I was the OP.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: chusteczka

Originally posted by: senseamp
Are you a doctor? Then stick to NOT giving medical advice, especially one related to a dangerous viral infection.

The OP asked the unqualified people in this forum for assistance and advice. I presume he will obtain legitimate advice from a certified doctor in which he can discuss this option for his specific circumstance. It is not bad to know the varying possibilities beforehand. Especially since each doctor is unique and may provide a different method of treatment with varying results.

Additionally, I have yet to see the hepatitis virus treated effectively here in the US and believe the drug reliance in this country overrides common sense and logical "alternative" treatment.

You've yet to see ANY virus treated effectively. Because it's really, really hard to kill something that isnt alive in the first place.

Starving isn't going to help. The only thing that can really do something about the foreign virus in your body is your immune system. Starving yourself is going to weaken it. Just because you remember it helped one guy doesnt make it a good idea.

 

[aircooled]

Originally posted by: chusteczka
Between now and Tuesday morning when legitimate medical advice may be obtained, what do people think the effect of a large Christmas, holiday, meal will have on the OP's liver? Should the OP eat a large meal, eat a moderate amount, or eat as little as possible? In reality, the amount of food he eats this weekend may very well affect his recovery from this virus.

He should eat alot of protien and carbs:
**How is it treated?
There is no specific treatment for Hepatitis B. Rest and a diet high in protein and carbohydrates help the liver repair itself. **
Text

Kinda puts a damper in your starvation theory huh?

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: chusteczka
Between now and Tuesday morning when legitimate medical advice may be obtained, what do people think the effect of a large Christmas, holiday, meal will have on the OP's liver? Should the OP eat a large meal, eat a moderate amount, or eat as little as possible? In reality, the amount of food he eats this weekend may very well affect his recovery from this virus.

It's not going to affect jack squat. He has had hep B for at least 4 months, so 4 days are going to make absolutely no difference.

 

[chusteczka]

Originally posted by: aircooled

Originally posted by: chusteczka

Originally posted by: aircooled

Originally posted by: chusteczka

Originally posted by: aircooled

Originally posted by: Whisper
For some reason, I just can't see not eating anything for two weeks being good advice.

That's because it's very bad advise. When your body goes into starvation mode, your liver suffers even harder.

Can you please explain why you believe this to be true?
I have explained my reasoning.

Starvation leads to fatty buildup in the liver (also known as "fatty liver"). In starvation or malnutrition fat is moved from the body to the liver for processing.

I suppose the question then becomes, which is better to stop the spread of the hepatitis virus through the liver; eating foods that require the liver to process their nutrients or not eating foods and requiring the body to obtain its nutrients through already processed fat? I would want the liver to enter a hibernation stage to prevent the virus from spreading. I would assume, but am not certain, that processing fats would provide less work for a liver than processing the nutrients from recently digested foods.

All I really know in this are the two cases I have seen, the variance in their treatments, and their end results. The rest I attempt to reason out for myself. There are numerous variables in my two observed cases that I am not aware of.

I do not consider my advice to be "very bad" and recommend it as an effective technique to limit the spread of the hepatitis virus.

When your liver goes into starvation mode the levels of liver enzymes will increase in the bloodstream. This will not help prevent the spread of virus.

How do the enzymes required to break down fat differ from the enzymes required to process digested nutrients from food, if they even do differ? Similarly, how does fatty metabolic breakdown differ from the metabolic breakdown of freshly digested nutrients, if at all?

How do the appropriate enzymes affect the hepatitis virus? Similarly, how is the hepatitis virus affected by the variance in liver activity?

I do not know this information.

I hope the metabolic breakdown of fat would require less overall activity within the liver. However, what would define "overall activity"? Would this be the amount of enzymes within the blood or liver? Would this be the level of metabolic processing for one type of nutrient versus another type of nutrient? I suspect it is important to understand the level of involvement of the other aspects of the liver during such metabolic processes.

 

[TheRyuu]

You need to take something that enhances the liver function.

Your body can fight HBV naturally. At least from what I've heard.

Why have you not gotten the HBV Vaccination?
You should get HAV and HBV vaccinations. Very bad to get both.

 

[chusteczka]

Originally posted by: aircooled

Originally posted by: chusteczka
Between now and Tuesday morning when legitimate medical advice may be obtained, what do people think the effect of a large Christmas, holiday, meal will have on the OP's liver? Should the OP eat a large meal, eat a moderate amount, or eat as little as possible? In reality, the amount of food he eats this weekend may very well affect his recovery from this virus.

He should eat alot of protien and carbs:
**How is it treated?
There is no specific treatment for Hepatitis B. Rest and a diet high in protein and carbohydrates help the liver repair itself. **
Text

Kinda puts a damper in your starvation theory huh?

Yes, I saw a similar statement in an earlier posted link.

Originally posted by: Captante
Look here for some good information:

Web MD - Hep B information

Some doctors recommend a high-calorie, high-fat diet and suggest that sufferers try to eat as much as possible despite the nausea.

By the phrasing of the sentence, it does not appear to be a widely accepted form of treatment. Why would there be nausea if it is beneficial to eat more?

This is an area that I admit to not fully understanding but I believe the medical community also does not fully understand how to treat it. It would be nice to see some studies on non-medicinal treatments that did not require the involvement of the American drug industry. I am not fully confident that American doctors understand how to deal with this virus.

How do other countries deal with this disease?

EDIT:
I am not fully confident that American doctors understand how to deal with this virus, due to their dependence on the American drug industry.

 

[chusteczka]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: chusteczka

Originally posted by: senseamp
Are you a doctor? Then stick to NOT giving medical advice, especially one related to a dangerous viral infection.

The OP asked the unqualified people in this forum for assistance and advice. I presume he will obtain legitimate advice from a certified doctor in which he can discuss this option for his specific circumstance. It is not bad to know the varying possibilities beforehand. Especially since each doctor is unique and may provide a different method of treatment with varying results.

Additionally, I have yet to see the hepatitis virus treated effectively here in the US and believe the drug reliance in this country overrides common sense and logical "alternative" treatment.

You've yet to see ANY virus treated effectively. Because it's really, really hard to kill something that isnt alive in the first place.

Starving isn't going to help. The only thing that can really do something about the foreign virus in your body is your immune system. Starving yourself is going to weaken it. Just because you remember it helped one guy doesnt make it a good idea.

This is logically true.

 

[TheRyuu]

OP, HBV ain't that bad.

Just go see your doctor and do what he/she says.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Semidevil
so 4 months back, I wanted to donate blood, and they bounched back after taking my sample saying that I might have hepititis B.

I went to the doctor to get it double checked, and they took some more blood samples.

Yesterday, the doc called me back and advised me that my blood did test positive for the hepititis B Virus. She said good news is that my liver enzymes are normal, but I still need to go to a liver specialist to get it checked it.

At the time of the phone call, I forgot to ask if she implied my hbv was acute or chronic, so now I"m kicking myself in the weekend worrying and just wish christmas can be over so I can call them when they are working to get more information.

Anyways, does anyone have any experience with the hbv virus(chronic or acute)? What sort of things did you have to do to get it treated?

pfft.. what r u so worried about? it's hep, not the herp

gammagobulin shot will take care of it.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: chusteczka

Originally posted by: senseamp
Are you a doctor? Then stick to NOT giving medical advice, especially one related to a dangerous viral infection.

The OP asked the unqualified people in this forum for assistance and advice. I presume he will obtain legitimate advice from a certified doctor in which he can discuss this option for his specific circumstance. It is not bad to know the varying possibilities beforehand. Especially since each doctor is unique and may provide a different method of treatment with varying results.

Additionally, I have yet to see the hepatitis virus treated effectively here in the US and believe the drug reliance in this country overrides common sense and logical "alternative" treatment.

Well, pretty much sums up your diagnosis right there.

 

[chusteczka]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: chusteczka

Originally posted by: senseamp
Are you a doctor? Then stick to NOT giving medical advice, especially one related to a dangerous viral infection.

The OP asked the unqualified people in this forum for assistance and advice. I presume he will obtain legitimate advice from a certified doctor in which he can discuss this option for his specific circumstance. It is not bad to know the varying possibilities beforehand. Especially since each doctor is unique and may provide a different method of treatment with varying results.

Additionally, I have yet to see the hepatitis virus treated effectively here in the US and believe the drug reliance in this country overrides common sense and logical "alternative" treatment.

Well, pretty much sums up your diagnosis right there.

Sure it does, along with everyone else's opinion also. I am merely stating my observations and asking questions because I am not happy with the current state of treatment for this illness. I am not well educated in this matter but I have seen enough inconsistency to question current methods of treatment.

Besides, I enjoy seeing the reaction to my ideas and learning the arguments against my views since they show me what I may have missed in my own analysis of the subject. Maybe there is a solid reason I am incorrect that I have not yet realized.

It helps to learn the weaknesses of my ideas through discussion. I am happy with this conversation because I have learned a few things.