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Test drove a couple of new TDIs today

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Since driving the beetle, Mary has shown some interest in a new convertible. We drove a convert with the 6 speed DSG auto.
It was very refined compared to the 03, with pushbutton start, leatherette interior, many other creature comforts. The beetle converts have a boost gauge, which was very entertaining. The thing spools like crazy! It went to 35 PSI in a blink.
Of course, this was referenced to the sea-level air pressure of 14.7 PSI, so it really is 20 PSI of boost.
We would not buy the DSG, but there are only two clutch cars in the state. We drove it for the convertible experience.
The DSG paired with the TDI was not so good off the line. if you idled away, it was nice and docile and slow. Give it any kick and it would hesitate, then spool, and chirp the tires. Seemed like there was no middle ground as it was set up.
The 'vert body was stiff and stable, due to about 300 pounds of extra structure. The car weighed in at 3300, compared to the 3000 lb hard top.
Ride was quite a bit cushier than the older bug, but did not seem to suffer badly for it. I suspect it would get a little sloppy if you pushed it really hard.
Torque and power are way up compared to the ALH. 140 HP vs 90, and 236 ft lb vs 155. It pulls nicely.
Top is all power, and can go up and down at town speeds. push and hold a button like a window button, till you hear a chime. 9 seconds down, 11.5 up and latched automatically.
Rear view is not so good. top up or down, the rear seat headrests cut about 40% of the window out of the rear view mirror. It took a flat blade or something like that to get the rear rest out, so we did not get to see that view. Maybe next time.
The stowed top is down enough for most drivers to see over, unlike the old cabriolets.
Top up ,the headliner does not even look like a convertible, very nice.
Next, we got into a 6 speed Golf to see how the transmission and engine were with a regular clutch. No surprises, the 6 speed was easy and smooth to operate. It gave us a better comparison to the ALH equipped bug. The improvement in pull was noticeable.
 
The DSG paired with the TDI was not so good off the line. if you idled away, it was nice and docile and slow. Give it any kick and it would hesitate, then spool, and chirp the tires. Seemed like there was no middle ground as it was set up.

I drive DSG, and I had a similar experience at first. Either I would accelerate nice and slow (and by slow, the same as everyone else), or I'd get a hesitation and then all of a sudden slingshot down the road (which I actually love and sometimes will purposely do). It has to do with how you press the pedal. If you press it down in a way where you slow as you press it down, if that makes any sense at all, you'll hold that gear longer, and get a more consistent acceleration. This may not be something you'll pick up in a test drive.

All of this applies only in full auto. In manual mode you can ride the gears as you please to get the middle ground acceleration that you're looking for, without having to push the pedal in a "special" way.
 
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I HATE HATE HATE that VW forces a couple of different trims and that is it for options. I want to be able to design a car the way I want it, not to have a whole host of crap shoved down my throat because I want HIDs or nav.
 
We really liked our '04 Bug. Super fast & surprisingly roomy, great handling too. We've talked about getting another one, especially since the new ones are bit more on the masculine side. As a family car, I would really like to see one with a CVT in it for smooth riding. If I got it for my work commuter, the 6-speed 200 HP turbo sounds awesome. I'd also be curious to drive the TDI, since the diesel Jetta I took out was pretty quick.

The other one we're looking at for our trip car is the 2015 Passat TDI with the new EA288 engine - 46/47 MPG highway & 150 HP, nice little boost over the current model. Not available until next year tho, hope the beater holds out until then! :awe:
 
I drive DSG, and I had a similar experience at first. Either I would accelerate nice and slow (and by slow, the same as everyone else), or I'd get a hesitation and then all of a sudden slingshot down the road (which I actually love and sometimes will purposely do). It has to do with how you press the pedal. If you press it down in a way where you slow as you press it down, if that makes any sense at all, you'll hold that gear longer, and get a more consistent acceleration. This may not be something you'll pick up in a test drive.

All of this applies only in full auto. In manual mode you can ride the gears as you please to get the middle ground acceleration that you're looking for, without having to push the pedal in a "special" way.
Thanks for explaining that. I won't be buying a DSG, but I have a clue as to what to do next time I drive one.
 
I don't sweat the masculine thing. I keep my peenor in my pants, I don't drive it down the road 😀
I was talking to the service department about emissions. The passat and toureg are the only TDIs in the lineup that are requiring the blue juice as well as having a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF).
The blue juice is not so troublesome, but the DPF is. It is one of those parts that will set you back 1500 or so if it fails/burns out. I will be researching that before we commit to anything.
 
I was talking to the service department about emissions. The passat and toureg are the only TDIs in the lineup that are requiring the blue juice as well as having a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF).
The blue juice is not so troublesome, but the DPF is. It is one of those parts that will set you back 1500 or so if it fails/burns out. I will be researching that before we commit to anything.

Yeah, and I'm curious to see what the maintenance is like on the upcoming EA288 engine. Efficiency doesn't come free! Our Bug had a lot of issues (a lot of stuff broke, even though we only leased it!), but we still loved it anyway.
 
I don't sweat the masculine thing. I keep my peenor in my pants, I don't drive it down the road 😀
I was talking to the service department about emissions. The passat and toureg are the only TDIs in the lineup that are requiring the blue juice as well as having a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF).
The blue juice is not so troublesome, but the DPF is. It is one of those parts that will set you back 1500 or so if it fails/burns out. I will be researching that before we commit to anything.

Its not unusual to cut the DPF out completely. If you are out of warranty you just need a tune to remove the computer checks.
 
As long as it gets 100K or so before I have to wrench on it, that would be OK.
I just read about rear side window problems in the convertible. That is far from thrilling.
 
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