Terrell Owens represents all that is wrong with sports today

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TheNinja

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TextPeter King's Take on the situation.


Let's recap the events that led to this. Owens ended 2003 with three years left on his contract with the 49ers. But he had an out; he could declare himself a free agent by telling San Francisco he was voiding the deal. He had to do that by Feb. 21. Nine other players had the option to void their respective deals by that date as well. Eight (should be seven?) of them apparently understood what "deadline" meant and exercised their right by the specified date. Cleveland wideout Dennis Northcutt and Owens did not -- even though, I'm told, the agent for Owens was reminded 11 days before the deadline he had to notify the 49ers of Owens' wishes by that date. Joseph didn't do it. The Niners retained Owens' rights. Owens screamed bloody murder, but he was out of luck, basically. So the 49ers had Owens' rights, and they told the agent last week he could seek a deal for the player, just as they would pursue a trade for Owens. San Francisco GM Terry Donahue called about 10 teams to gauge their interest! i! n the receiver. Only two of those teams, Baltimore and Philadelphia, offered him anything. Philly's best offer was a fifth-round pick and a marginal player. Baltimore's second-rounder proposal blew the Eagles' one away.
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djNickb

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Whatever happened to class, honor, and dignity? Or did that all get thrown out to make more room in the salary cap?
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: Leejai
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What a tool. Ray Lewis should beat his ass, Terry Tate style.

Ray Lewis should beat his ass, RAY LEWIS style! Let's not forget what he's allegegdly capable of.

Exactly. I hope he stays with the Ravens and keeps his crap up. Ray Lewis will get sick of his act and kill him within a few weeks. TO will just turn up missing one day...
 

SweetSweetLeroyBrown

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
not just sports, he represents what's wrong with our society today. for us to pay entertainers (and i include all athletes, musicians, actors etc in this group) as much money as we do is a travesty.

I strongly disagree. It's simple economics in a capitalist society. Supply and demand. Lots of people want to watch great football, but great football players are few and far between. I think he's entitled to every dollar he's paid. Why do you think it's a travesty?


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SweetSweetLeroyBrown

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
not just sports, he represents what's wrong with our society today. for us to pay entertainers (and i include all athletes, musicians, actors etc in this group) as much money as we do is a travesty.

I strongly disagree. It's simple economics in a capitalist society. Supply and demand. Lots of people want to watch great football, but great football players are few and far between. I think he's entitled to every dollar he's paid. Why do you think it's a travesty?

i think the fact that the demand is high is what's wrong. we live our lives vicariously. no one DOES anymore, they all watch.

it is reminiscent of Rome and the gladiators. the emporers appeased the people with games even tho the economy was going bad.



If the "demand" is the problem, then title of this thread should be "NFL Fans represents all that is wrong with sports today".

 

SweetSweetLeroyBrown

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Turn to hockey. :)

But yes, I agree with you. He's has completely lost touch with reality.
Another vote for hockey ! :D

Sadly the NHL is going down in flames unless a new CBA is reached. Paying a single player $11mil per season (yes, my Caps did that for Mr. Jagr) in a TEAM sport is outrageous. Cap the salary limit per team and they can learn to live with each other like they're supposed to. Compromise and win together. The biggest market doesn't have to have the best players. :|
Yeah, I hope the NHLPA realize that it's not ALL about how much the players get paid. I wish they could come up with a system where capitolism can remain intact, and I never have to hear about a team may be moving due to financial issues. (Well, unless they are moving to Portland, of course. ;) )


Be happy with your winterhawks.
 

Dragnov

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Don't worry, Brett Favre represents all that is right. :beer:

All that team of destiny and cry for me over my father stuff was all the media's doing.

He enjoys the game. He plays for the fun of it. His teamates love him (did you see the way his recievers sold out for him in that Oakland game?!) and his line protects him with all they got. Even his opponents/rivals have great respect for him.
 

LS20

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so, do they ever realize that they should get happy getting paid MILLIONS of dollars just to play a game on tv?
 

Pocatello

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I feel sorry for any team that will get Owens. He's great athlete but a destructive teamate.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: SweetSweetLeroyBrown
not when the owners and the league are making billions

As soon as you figure out which owner or who in league is making "billions" please let me know.

That's pretty funny though. I guess I should quit my job since my boss makes a lot more than he pays me
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I never thought about it that way. I'm glad you showed me the light.

 

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Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
Originally posted by: Jhill
Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
I've had it, after watching this saga unfold across the bay I have finally had enough of Terrell Owens. For those of you who dont know whats going on I suggest heading over to espn.com and reading up on it.

Apparently now TO has told Baltimore that he is not showing up for his physical and is again persuing free agency. I quote Owens from his website:

HV A GOOD DAY! DN'T SAY THT I'M BURNING BRIDGES WHN I'M NOT DOIN NOTHIN OF THE SUCH, DN'T TAKE IT PERSONAL THT I'M FIGHTIN 4 MY RITE 2 EXERCISE MY OPTION ACCORDING 2 MY CONTRACT! SORRY, IF I OFFENDED U OR U FEEL SLIGHTED BY THE FACT THT I WN'T B N B'MORE 2MORR 4 MY PHYSICAL!

After deciphering this complex code he seems to speak in (I had to recruit the services of an 11 year old on AOL) I have decided I hate him. I am glad he is out of SF and no matter how talented he is, he is not worth the hassle for any team. With the MLBPA refusing to let baseball players attempt to clear their name by submitting to drug testing, and now the NFLPA even considering siding with this moron on this issue I have lost all of my taste for professional sports besides the NBA, which is far from devoid of issues.

Ugh, thats all I have to say. Had to rant/vent. Ill leave you all with another TO gem...

U R NT RAY LEWIS, SO UR IQ MUST B WORST THAN MINE IF U THINK I'M GONNA BELIEVE THIS! U R 2 FUNNY! HOLLA BACK RAY LEWIS


This is a joke right? He really doesn't write like that does he?

I wish it were, those are his replies copied and pasted here. If he could articulately argue his point I doin't think I would be quite as pissed off, but since he just adds fuel to the fire
of being an immature, self-centered, retarded fvckstick, it gets me a little deeper.


Link to his quotes??

 

SweetSweetLeroyBrown

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: SweetSweetLeroyBrown
not when the owners and the league are making billions

As soon as you figure out which owner or who in league is making "billions" please let me know.

That's pretty funny though. I guess I should quit my job since my boss makes a lot more than he pays me
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I never thought about it that way. I'm glad you showed me the light.


Owners and league collectively
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Not funny at all. I'd bet you perform a function that is easier to replace than a Pro Bowl level Wide Receiver. I'm happy to show you the light.
 

BD231

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Originally posted by: LS20
so, do they ever realize that they should get happy getting paid MILLIONS of dollars just to play a game on tv?

Just to play a game???? Do you have any idea how phucking hard these athletes have to work in order to stay in the shape they're in? Do you have any idea the kind of risk they're subject to????

Owens is one of the best players in the NFL and deserves to get paid. Anyone who's upset by his attitudes and the way he handles his business is a moron for caring.

Owens has played for the 9'ers his entire career, and to see the ninners shaft he after a mishap makes me sick. He's an aging 30 year old man who's done nothing but entertain and produce and it's time for his "payday". He screwed up the contract dates (you'd be phucking stupid to think he didn't have his mind made up about leaving the team), and now he's fighting for his rights as a human being after being screwed over by a bunch of old white guys.

Let me guess, you guy's would retract your crude statements if he were to bend over and take a sh*tty contract over a stupid date?

Lame :|
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: SweetSweetLeroyBrown
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: SweetSweetLeroyBrown
not when the owners and the league are making billions

As soon as you figure out which owner or who in league is making "billions" please let me know.

That's pretty funny though. I guess I should quit my job since my boss makes a lot more than he pays me
rolleye.gif
I never thought about it that way. I'm glad you showed me the light.


Owners and league collectively
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Not funny at all. I'd bet you perform a function that is easier to replace than a Pro Bowl level Wide Receiver. I'm happy to show you the light.

According the USA Today, in 2002, the total payroll for all 32 teams comes out at about 2.1 billion. And in adding that up, I rounded down to the million for each team. So you see, the players are making billions too. No worries.

As far as my job, in relative terms I'm actually more important but that's neither here nor there.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: BD231
Originally posted by: LS20
so, do they ever realize that they should get happy getting paid MILLIONS of dollars just to play a game on tv?

Just to play a game???? Do you have any idea how phucking hard these athletes have to work in order to stay in the shape they're in? Do you have any idea the kind of risk they're subject to????

Owens is one of the best players in the NFL and deserves to get paid. Anyone who's upset by his attitudes and the way he handles his business is a moron for caring.

Owens has played for the 9'ers his entire career, and to see the ninners shaft he after a mishap makes me sick. He's an aging 30 year old man who's done nothing but entertain and produce and it's time for his "payday". He screwed up the contract dates (you'd be phucking stupid to think he didn't have his mind made up about leaving the team), and now he's fighting for his rights as a human being after being screwed over by a bunch of old white guys.

Let me guess, you guy's would retract your crude statements if he were to bend over and take a sh*tty contract over a stupid date?

Lame :|

Oh Jesus, grow up
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First off, there are tons of average workers that take as big of risks with their body for pathetic pay. If you want to use the argument that he's should get big money because he's taking a risk with his body then do you also think that everyone that works in a lumber mill, construction site, etc. should make millions too?

Second, yes, the athletes work hard to stay in shape. They also get handsomely rewarded as well as getting the majority of the year off. Not to mention the fact that most of these guys are blessed with great genetics. Staying in shape for most of them isn't as difficult as it is for average joe suburbanite.

Third, the niners didn't screw him, his agent did. He did it to himself also. If it's that important to you to get out of SF you'd better make damn sure you've got everything taken care of. You'd better call your agent and bust his ass every day until he gets the paperwork in.

Why don't you brush up on your AOL speak and go start crying with TO over on his message board.
 

SweetSweetLeroyBrown

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: SweetSweetLeroyBrown
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: SweetSweetLeroyBrown
not when the owners and the league are making billions

As soon as you figure out which owner or who in league is making "billions" please let me know.

That's pretty funny though. I guess I should quit my job since my boss makes a lot more than he pays me
rolleye.gif
I never thought about it that way. I'm glad you showed me the light.


Owners and league collectively
rolleye.gif


Not funny at all. I'd bet you perform a function that is easier to replace than a Pro Bowl level Wide Receiver. I'm happy to show you the light.

According the USA Today, in 2002, the total payroll for all 32 teams comes out at about 2.1 billion. And in adding that up, I rounded down to the million for each team. So you see, the players are making billions too. No worries.

As far as my job, in relative terms I'm actually more important but that's neither here nor there.




And I never questioned your "importance" to your job.

I said that I would bet that replacing you would be easier than replacing a Pro Bowl level Wide Receiver. And THAT's one of the reason your boss makes alot more than you. Hey, you brought it up, so it is relevant.


 

SweetSweetLeroyBrown

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: BD231
Originally posted by: LS20
so, do they ever realize that they should get happy getting paid MILLIONS of dollars just to play a game on tv?

Just to play a game???? Do you have any idea how phucking hard these athletes have to work in order to stay in the shape they're in? Do you have any idea the kind of risk they're subject to????

Owens is one of the best players in the NFL and deserves to get paid. Anyone who's upset by his attitudes and the way he handles his business is a moron for caring.

Owens has played for the 9'ers his entire career, and to see the ninners shaft he after a mishap makes me sick. He's an aging 30 year old man who's done nothing but entertain and produce and it's time for his "payday". He screwed up the contract dates (you'd be phucking stupid to think he didn't have his mind made up about leaving the team), and now he's fighting for his rights as a human being after being screwed over by a bunch of old white guys.

Let me guess, you guy's would retract your crude statements if he were to bend over and take a sh*tty contract over a stupid date?

Lame :|

Oh Jesus, grow up
rolleye.gif


First off, there are tons of average workers that take as big of risks with their body for pathetic pay. If you want to use the argument that he's should get big money because he's taking a risk with his body then do you also think that everyone that works in a lumber mill, construction site, etc. should make millions too?

Second, yes, the athletes work hard to stay in shape. They also get handsomely rewarded as well as getting the majority of the year off. Not to mention the fact that most of these guys are blessed with great genetics. Staying in shape for most of them isn't as difficult as it is for average joe suburbanite.

Third, the niners didn't screw him, his agent did. He did it to himself also. If it's that important to you to get out of SF you'd better make damn sure you've got everything taken care of. You'd better call your agent and bust his ass every day until he gets the paperwork in.

Why don't you brush up on your AOL speak and go start crying with TO over on his message board.




1.
NFL players have a much shorter "shelf life" than the average construction worker or lumber mill worker. Thus the NFL player has more of a right to demand larger annual payments than the average construction worker.

2.
Even if we assume that the demand for quality NFL players equals the demand for construction workers, the supply of quality NFL level players is much smaller then the supply of quality construction workers. Thus, NFL players have a right to demand more money.

If NFL players salaries/attitudes really upsets you, just boycott everything NFL. Then you can feel secure in not contributing to something you feel is wrong.

 

LS20

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Originally posted by: BD231
Originally posted by: LS20
so, do they ever realize that they should get happy getting paid MILLIONS of dollars just to play a game on tv?

Just to play a game???? Do you have any idea how phucking hard these athletes have to work in order to stay in the shape they're in? Do you have any idea the kind of risk they're subject to????

Owens is one of the best players in the NFL and deserves to get paid. Anyone who's upset by his attitudes and the way he handles his business is a moron for caring.

Owens has played for the 9'ers his entire career, and to see the ninners shaft he after a mishap makes me sick. He's an aging 30 year old man who's done nothing but entertain and produce and it's time for his "payday". He screwed up the contract dates (you'd be phucking stupid to think he didn't have his mind made up about leaving the team), and now he's fighting for his rights as a human being after being screwed over by a bunch of old white guys.

Let me guess, you guy's would retract your crude statements if he were to bend over and take a sh*tty contract over a stupid date?

Lame :|
im a huge fan of college football. most of these guys work their butt off just to get some playing time, not getting paid for it (well, most of them, directly, anyways), and knowing that the majority of them will never make a career out of it. i know the practices, the conditionig, the training... but theyre not doing it for free. then, they go home in their hummers to their mansions. in 1 single year of playing football TO makes more than a respectable engineer will make in his entire lifetime. and after getting to leave SF, he's complaining about the new town hes getting paid to play in? thats ridiculous.

im a lifelong 49ers fan, and i actually love his showsmanship.. but jesus.. talk about taking things for granted... he's the one getting screwed over? not the team paying him millions of dollars and not having his 'service'?