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Terraforming Mars

SagaLore

SagaLore

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I was just reading a recent magazine article about the make up of Mars. The atmosphere is 95% carbon dioxide. The surface temperature reaches 50 degrees, but above 3 feet from the surface it is freezing again because the atmosphere is too thin.

The article didn't mention this but I already knew, the reason Mars is so red is because it has a lot of oxidized iron.

So... the perfect colonizing solution! :light:

Plant some grass!

There are some very hardy grasses that can grow in low temperatures and don't require a lot of water. We just have one of those rovers plant a small field of grass seeds and let that take off... with all that carbon dioxide and iron it should flourish, and start generating oxygen. The surface atmosphere will increase, causing a greenhouse affect, which will slowly warm up the polar ice caps. The ice caps will begin to evaporate its water and dry ice, adding more moisture and carbon dioxide. Eventually the grass will cover the entire surface of the planet. 😀

By the time we develop the technology to efficiently transport people to mars, it will be ready for us.
 
what are you smoking? i want some...😛

humans won't change. after terraforming - we'll just bring more disease, dispear, war and bickering to another planet. :|
 
we'd have to take a lot of fertile soil over there for that to work. afaik, grass doesn't grow too well in rust.
Hey, does anyone know if that guy that built his own spaceship (I think he was on Leno a while back) actually made it out of the atmosphere?
 
Originally posted by: m2kewl
what are you smoking? i want some...😛

humans won't change. after terraforming - we'll just bring more disease, dispear, war and bickering to another planet. :|
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LOL, sadly I agree 🙁

BTW SagaLore, didn't you see the movie Mission To Mars, see how that turned out 😉
 
Originally posted by: m2kewl
what are you smoking? i want some...😛

humans won't change. after terraforming - we'll just bring more disease, dispear, war and bickering to another planet. :|
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So? 😛 I'm not trying to run away from Earth, just expand it's territory. 🙂 It's always good to have a DRP. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Pilsnerpete
we'd have to take a lot of fertile soil over there for that to work. afaik, grass doesn't grow too well in rust.
Hey, does anyone know if that guy that built his own spaceship (I think he was on Leno a while back) actually made it out of the atmosphere?
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Nah, I think we should be able to use the dirt there. I've bought lawn fertilizer before that was just a premix of nitrogen and iron. While spraying it onto the grass, the wind bounced it back into my face and it tasted just like rust. Grass loves it.
 
I have always been for terraforming Mars, but it would take AT LEAST 500 years to fully terraform, if not more. I'll be dead, therefore I don't give a sh**.
 
Originally posted by: hypersonic5
I have always been for terraforming Mars, but it would take AT LEAST 500 years to fully terraform, if not more. I'll be dead, therefore I don't give a sh**.
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No way. The trick is to let Mars terraform itself. Grass or some other kind of fast growing ground cover is the way to go!
 
Originally posted by: Cat
Read Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars trilogy. It's a HARD problem to solve.
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Thanks, I think I will. 🙂 It's been awhile since I've read a good SF novel.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
earth sucks, lets live on mars, fat people weigh less
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But launching the 200M fat people in the USA alone to find out the ship isn't strong enough to support that kind of weight out of the atmosphere will give a huge mess... It will be far worse than the exploding whale video.
 
What is wrong with you people? I mean...Mars is an unfeeling dead rock. I can't see how anyone could have a reasonable objection to terraforming it. Nature freaks would like expanding nature, there would be room for people, alleviating crowding problems on earth. Yes, there might be war, there might not, certainly there will be greed, but there will be greed here on earth too. What, exactly is your objection? :disgust:
 
The local eco systems would be wrecked if we terraform!! The local fauna will be taken over, local species will suffer from the climatic changes! Are you MAD! You'd ruin an entire planets ecological system simply so you have another planet to live on!?!?
 
Originally posted by: Shockwave
The local eco systems would be wrecked if we terraform!! The local fauna will be taken over, local species will suffer from the climatic changes! Are you MAD! You'd ruin an entire planets ecological system simply so you have another planet to live on!?!?
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Classic! 😀
 
you must've seen mission to mars!

why do we have to waste the money and resource to transform mars? the human population won't even hit 10 billions and it will start to decline when it hit 9billions.
take a look at Singapore, the government is urging people to give birth more and making single to get married.

stop listening to the environmentalists craps
 
Originally posted by: DaWhim
you must've seen mission to mars!

why do we have to waste the money and resource to transform mars? the human population won't even hit 10 billions and it will start to decline when it hit 9billions.
take a look at Singapore, the government is urging people to give birth more and making single to get married.

stop listening to the environmentalists craps
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Actually, I haven't seen that. Still, I have never heard that the planet's population is going to decline back to 9 bil. I have heard the 10 billion stabilization pont but not of a predicted decline to 9 billion. I do not claim to be an expert on population figures so I will not opine either way. Still, assuming that the population will stabilize around 9-10 billion, it isn't a good reason not to colonize and terraform Mars (actually, I am not sure if you are making such an argument or just offering information).
 
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DaWhim
you must've seen mission to mars!

why do we have to waste the money and resource to transform mars? the human population won't even hit 10 billions and it will start to decline when it hit 9billions.
take a look at Singapore, the government is urging people to give birth more and making single to get married.

stop listening to the environmentalists craps
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Actually, I haven't seen that. Still, I have never heard that the planet's population is going to decline back to 9 bil. I have heard the 10 billion stabilization pont but not of a predicted decline to 9 billion. I do not claim to be an expert on population figures so I will not opine either way. Still, assuming that the population will stabilize around 9-10 billion, it isn't a good reason not to colonize and terraform Mars (actually, I am not sure if you are making such an argument or just offering information).
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Terraforming Mars would be fun. Who cares if it's practical. 🙂

Like I said, with any gould DRP we need a hot site. If something catastrophic happened to Earth, we're doomed - but not if we have a backup planet! After the grass is finished stabilizing a liveable environment, we start sending animals. Mars will create it's own eco system...
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DaWhim
you must've seen mission to mars!

why do we have to waste the money and resource to transform mars? the human population won't even hit 10 billions and it will start to decline when it hit 9billions.
take a look at Singapore, the government is urging people to give birth more and making single to get married.

stop listening to the environmentalists craps
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Actually, I haven't seen that. Still, I have never heard that the planet's population is going to decline back to 9 bil. I have heard the 10 billion stabilization pont but not of a predicted decline to 9 billion. I do not claim to be an expert on population figures so I will not opine either way. Still, assuming that the population will stabilize around 9-10 billion, it isn't a good reason not to colonize and terraform Mars (actually, I am not sure if you are making such an argument or just offering information).
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Terraforming Mars would be fun. Who cares if it's practical. 🙂

Like I said, with any gould DRP we need a hot site. If something catastrophic happened to Earth, we're doomed - but not if we have a backup planet! After the grass is finished stabilizing a liveable environment, we start sending animals. Mars will create it's own eco system...
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I agree wholeheartedly.
 
Originally posted by: So

Actually, I haven't seen that. Still, I have never heard that the planet's population is going to decline back to 9 bil. I have heard the 10 billion stabilization pont but not of a predicted decline to 9 billion. I do not claim to be an expert on population figures so I will not opine either way. Still, assuming that the population will stabilize around 9-10 billion, it isn't a good reason not to colonize and terraform Mars (actually, I am not sure if you are making such an argument or just offering information).
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if I am not mistaken, a country will need a birth rate of 2.3 to keep the population at constant. however, look at all the modernized countries and we will see most people is not give birth more than 2 children. there is a report by world bank long time ago about the decline will actually faster than the economists estimate.

transforming mars is not practical at all. it is just purely sci-fi. transform the moon sound more practical than mars. we can't even reach there!
 
We are getting off topic, but I I truly believe the whole "the earth is overpopulated" thing is total crap. The problem isn't that we have to many people. The problem is that countries don't plan like they should for population increases. With proper planning, farming and transportation solutions I think that the world's population can easily exceed 100 Billion or more.
 
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