Tennessee Tea Parties demand textbooks contain no mean things about Founding Fathers

[bfdd]

this shit is retarded, the flaws in men are help us tell just how great they were. Yes Jefferson owned slaves, he also had his daughter free them when he died. One was technically his wife which he had many children with. revisionism is for fucktards.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Dumb as a mud fence.

 

[werepossum]

this shit is retarded, the flaws in men are help us tell just how great they were. Yes Jefferson owned slaves, he also had his daughter free them when he died. One was technically his wife which he had many children with. revisionism is for fucktards.

Personally I give Jefferson no credit for that. He didn't free HIS sleeves, he freed his DAUGHTER'S slaves. The moral thing to do would have been to free them whilst he was getting productive work from them, not after he was beyond profiting from them. Surely the newly freed men and women could have profited from his advice, his connections. Maybe they needed a helping hand now and then. Seems to me that he eased his conscience without any sacrifice on his part.

This does illustrate though the progressive circle jerk machine, with Salon linking to the Huff. The actual quote in the Huff:

Hal Rounds, spokesman for the group, recently claimed at news conference that there was "an awful lot of made-up criticism about, for instance, the Founders intruding on the Indians or having slaves or being hypocrites in one way or another."

As a result, the Tea Party organizations argue, there should be "no portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership."

"The thing we need to focus on about the Founders is that, given the social structure of their time, they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn't existed, to everybody -- not all equally instantly -- and it was their progress that we need to look at," Rounds explained of his interpretation of the legacy of the Founding Fathers.

I absolutely agree with the bolded, no matter how awkwardly the Huff wrote that sentence. Far too much of academia has focused on and emphasized negative aspects of our Founding Fathers rather than the good they did. The founding of America, bastion of freedom, HAS to be more important historically than whether or not Jefferson kept slaves.

 

[bfdd]

Personally I give Jefferson no credit for that. He didn't free HIS sleeves, he freed his DAUGHTER'S slaves. The moral thing to do would have been to free them whilst he was getting productive work from them, not after he was beyond profiting from them. Surely the newly freed men and women could have profited from his advice, his connections. Maybe they needed a helping hand now and then. Seems to me that he eased his conscience without any sacrifice on his part.

Of course I agree with you on that. He had all the intentions of it, but to keep face and his persona he didn't free them. It is rather bullshit, I was just using it as an example of things that should not be left out.


edit- I agree with your edit lol.

 

[piasabird]

Freedom of speech. What we really need to control is agenda driven textbooks that are more about politics and less about actual facts.

We would be better off doing away with green beer on st patrics day and lie like st patrick chased all the snakes out of Ireland. Never were any snakes. Serpent is also a term for Devil or bad people.

 

[piasabird]

Benjamin Franklin did not believe in God and he went to France where he became a drunkard and a womanizer as a young man. However, when he returned to the USA he did things like organizing tradesmen to work together to help improve conditions in US Cities. He also invented the Lightning Rod, and was an author.

I see nothing wrong with remembering people for the good things they did.

Slaves were legal at the time. Kind of like Drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes, neither of which are good for us.

 

[Red Dawn]

We would be better off doing away with green beer on st patrics day and lie like st patrick chased all the snakes out of Ireland. Never were any snakes. Serpent is also a term for Devil or bad people.

 

[RightIsWrong]

I absolutely agree with the bolded, no matter how awkwardly the Huff wrote that sentence. Far too much of academia has focused on and emphasized negative aspects of our Founding Fathers rather than the good they did. The founding of America, bastion of freedom, HAS to be more important historically than whether or not Jefferson kept slaves.

I agree 100% with your first half of this post. This part, however, is asinine. Everyone knows what good they did and that is not being diminished in any way by showing that that times that they lived in where such that stating "All men are created equal" was relative to your race and standing in the community.

The simple fact that they are wanting to rid the texts of reality and your support it is, I want to say astounding, but I'm not really that shocked....how about appalling instead.

Simple question, what would your reaction be if a group of Arayans in Germany wanted to have all textbooks be rid of anything negative about Hitler because it was distracting from his accomplishments?

 

[Siddhartha]

When history conflicts with your fantasies, you rewrite history.

 

[William Gaatjes]

"The material calls for lawmakers to amend state laws governing school curriculums, and for textbook selection criteria to say that “No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership.""

"Fayette County attorney Hal Rounds, the group's lead spokesman during the news conference, said the group wants to address "an awful lot of made-up criticism about, for instance, the founders intruding on the Indians or having slaves or being hypocrites in one way or another.""

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/...unding_fathers_tennessee_tea_party/index.html

So, these people think it is necessary to portray rich, white, Christian men as flawless and of such high stature that the presentation their magnificent accomplishments would be diminished by including any information about people outside of their group?

The Onion can't make up crap this crazy.

Just another example of people who can't stand facts that don't extol the virtues of their personal beliefs.

Seems to be a call for government mind control and indoctrination of the children.

What's next? A requirement that every home have a 2'x3' picture of George Washington hanging in a prominent place?

This smells as rewriting history to look better.
Hitler did it and Stalin did it as well.
Fundamental religious people do it as well.

Tea party people too ?

History is something to learn from, not to idolize. History explains about the good and the bad choices and historical events. Rewriting history is the first step to the downfall of a nation. If you base your view on a lie, you will fail.

 

[K1052]

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I absolutely agree with the bolded, no matter how awkwardly the Huff wrote that sentence. Far too much of academia has focused on and emphasized negative aspects of our Founding Fathers rather than the good they did. The founding of America, bastion of freedom, HAS to be more important historically than whether or not Jefferson kept slaves.

The implication that both can't be considered would be what I find most troubling. The founders were complex and interesting men that some people want to reduce to a characterless statues in the name of right and left agendas, this should not be permitted.

 

[hal2kilo]

What? It's a lie that many of the founding fathers were either theists or athiests.

 

[dmcowen674]

Its our own little Taliban. How cute.

The whole Republican mindset of Palin, Rush, Hannity, Levin has most certainly descended into American version.