Tennessee family home burns while firefighters watch

[JSt0rm]

I'm going to stop paying the property taxes on my home that fund my local fire department. Surely you'll all be there to whine when the county kicks me out. "Waaaaah! It's immoral to kick someone out of their home just because they wouldn't pay for the fire department!"

You morons are so predictable and stupid.

What are you talking about?

 

[spacejamz]

It would of been a better story if all the citizens of the trailer park got up and put the fire out themselves as a community.

Even better if then they all said we dont need your fire department we will take care of our own.

I guess thats the point that I took from that mans comments I posted. Why dont we just help each other anymore?

What are they going to put the fire out with? Their garden hoses???

Fighting fires requires proper equipment and training...These things are EXPENSIVE and COST money.

If they weren't willing to pay $75, do you really think they would have enough to pay for a fire truck? hoses? masks? suits? medical equipment? LOL

 

[spacejamz]

I don't hate democracy. But you can't fix stupid.

Exactly...how stupid can you be if this happened last year and you STILL didn't pay the $75 yet....

or have homeowner's insurance in case your house burns down...

 

[Capt Caveman]

Why should everyone have to pay $75 more dollars on their property taxes when house values vary wildly and thus so does the exposure to loss from fire? I'm sure this was the result to move/keep the tax burden on lower income types so the wealthy folks could save a nice chunk on their tax bill.

This is real third world country shit. I wish you folks defending it would just find one to move to instead of dragging this country down into one.

These home owners have elected officials that have decided that their county will not fund a fire department from their property taxes. The city nearby has offered to cover these home owners if they're are willing to pay $75/year.

This home owner after seeing a neighbor's house burn down b/c they didn't want to pay for fire coverage decided not to pay for it.

The only people to blame are these home owners. They decided to take the risk and got burned.

 

[spacejamz]

Why should everyone have to pay $75 more dollars on their property taxes when house values vary wildly and thus so does the exposure to loss from fire? I'm sure this was the result to move/keep the tax burden on lower income types so the wealthy folks could save a nice chunk on their tax bill.

This is real third world country shit. I wish you folks defending it would just find one to move to instead of dragging this country down into one.

Once again, for the people who cannot seem to keep up....

These were residents who lived outside of the city limits. The fire department is funded by city taxes and will only respond to fires/emergencies within city limits.

The non-city residents VOTED not to fund a fire department and instead pay a $75 fee if they wanted the CITY fire department to respond to a fire on their property outside of the city limits.

This fire was outside of city limits and the homeowner did NOT pay the $75.

 

[JSt0rm]

What are they going to put the fire out with? Their garden hoses???

Fighting fires requires proper equipment and training...These things are EXPENSIVE and COST money.

If they weren't willing to pay $75, do you really think they would have enough to pay for a fire truck? hoses? masks? suits? medical equipment? LOL

If my house was burning down I would attempt to use water to put the fire out. Even without proper training.

 

[spacejamz]

If my house was burning down I would attempt to use water to put the fire out. Even without proper training.

wonder how long it would take a garden hose to put this out???

 

[JSt0rm]

wonder how long it would take a garden hose to put this out???

Well I guess the point is if the entire community showed up we are not alone in our fire just as they are not alone in theirs. I think im thinking about this on a different level then you.

 

[momeNt]

If my house was burning down I would attempt to use water to put the fire out. Even without proper training.

You probably would be met with similar success as the family living near me that tried to dig their car out of Chicago's 2011 February thundersnow storm with a playskool sand castle shovel.

I really should have taken a picture of these idiots. I ended up shoveling them out with my shovel since I was in a good mood and didn't mind the exercise.

 

[JSt0rm]

You probably would be met with similar success as the family living near me that tried to dig their car out of Chicago's 2011 February thundersnow storm with a playskool sand castle shovel.

I really should have taken a picture of these idiots. I ended up shoveling them out with my shovel since I was in a good mood and didn't mind the exercise.

so you ended up helping your neighbor...

This is my point.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Once again, for the people who cannot seem to keep up....

I'm keeping up just fine. This is plain wrong, there's no justifying it, and if you sorry sacks can't admit it because your morally bankrupt ideology says otherwise then that says more about your character than any more snide remarks I can post.

 

[Bacstar]

Somebody brought up the point about they should have put out the fire and billed them for it. Well I wanted to bring up something kind of similar here in Anchorage. The city is mandated and required to provide trash service to the community for a set amount. Guess what, we have "clients" that don't pay, but since we're required to offer service, they still get trash service but the minimum service we can offer and their past due amount just continues to grow. All we've been able to do is send them to collections where they sit and most don't care what it does to their credit.

Point is: like someone said earlier if they could get away with not paying the $75 and still get fire protection, what's the incentive for people to pay?

 

[Nintendesert]

so you ended up helping your neighbor...

This is my point.

He had the proper equipment to help his neighbor, maybe one of these trailer residents had a fire truck and a fire crew in their garage. :thumbsup:

 

[momeNt]

so you ended up helping your neighbor...

This is my point.

well snow only requires a proper shovel.

If they were buried under a mudslide I'd be the idiot if I showed up with a shovel until somebody showed up with a proper excavator.

Don't see too many neighbors with an excavator or a water truck and pump to deal with the larger calamities life throws at you. If there was a hydrant nearby and somebody happened to have a firehose and wrench/key to unlock the hydrant, you could have saved the house and worried about the fine afterwards for stealing water.

 

[BoberFett]

What are you talking about?

Not very bright are you?

People are saying the fire department should put out fires because it's the moral thing to do, not because they're paid to do it.

Isn't it the moral thing to do to provide me with services such as fire and police even if I don't pay for them? Instead, if I don't pay my taxes which fund local services such as the fire department, I lose my home just as these fools did for not paying.

The outcome is the same. Don't pay for your services, lose your home. Nobody would feel sorry for someone who lost their home because they didn't pay their property taxes, but somehow these rednecks who lose their home because they choose not to pay $75/yr for fire coverage get sympathy from the useful idiots in this thread.

 

[spacejamz]

Well I guess the point is if the entire community showed up we are not alone in our fire just as they are not alone in theirs. I think im thinking about this on a different level then you.

I am thinking about this a realistic point of view. What good does it do for the community to show but not have the tools and equipment to deal with problem?

Do you really think that you and your neighbors with their garden hoses can put a fire like this out? What if there was someone inside? Does one of your neighbors have a mask and fireman's uniform to go inside and rescue them?

Why don't you realize that it costs MONEY to do these things properly (especially if you want to reduce the chances of anyone else getting hurt)? This money needs to come from somewhere....

 

[DaveSimmons]

I'm keeping up just fine. This is plain wrong, there's no justifying it, and if you sorry sacks can't admit it because your morally bankrupt ideology says otherwise then that says more about your character than any more snide remarks I can post.

You probably think the neighboring city should pay for their groceries too, right? Doesn't everyone have a moral right to eat?

These people voted not to pay for their own fire service.

They also were too lazy to set up any kind of volunteer firefighting group.

A nearby city with smarter people who pay their taxes and aren't slacker leeches, out of the goodness of their hearts offered to share the firefighters they paid for, for a small annual fee of $75.

I'd agree that these morons should never have voted not to pay for firefighting services through taxes or the $75 fee, but it's their own stupid fault. They made their bed, they can watch it burn. Personal rights come with personal responsibility.

The county yokels were too cheap to pay the $75 but still want the services they refused to help fund.

 

[spacejamz]

I'm keeping up just fine. This is plain wrong, there's no justifying it, and if you sorry sacks can't admit it because your morally bankrupt ideology says otherwise then that says more about your character than any more snide remarks I can post.

What is wrong is that someone did not take the proper steps to protect their home and family, especially over $75.

Why don't you understand that things COST money....that is they way the world works...

I am sure in your little Candyland world where everyone has pet unicorns and fire engines grow on trees, the world is very nice place and nothing burns down. But here in the real world, a fire truck costs alot of money to obtain, maintain, insure and keep fueled and ready to go at all times...But you don't seem to care or realize that...

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I hope Karma is real is and is keeping an eye on this thread. I'm out shitheads.

 

[spacejamz]

I hope Karma is real is and is keeping an eye on this thread. I'm out shitheads.

Is that all you can come up with???

 

[xBiffx]

I hope Karma is real is and is keeping an eye on this thread. I'm out shitheads.

Who needs karma? I pay my bills.

 

[Herr Kutz]

Who needs karma? I pay my bills.

Omg you filthy Republican!!!!shift+1!!!!

 

[senseamp]

Small government on display.

 

[BoberFett]

Democracy on display.

Fixed.

Democrats sure seem to hate democracy when it suits them.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Is that all you can come up with???

We're on the internet, you're a bunch of psychopaths, it's not worth much effort.