Tendon giving out before muscle gets fatigued

lozina

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Whenever I try working my biceps and start to increase weight to try and get the muscle fatigued I always have my tendon between bicep and the inside of elbow give out way before the bicep can get properly fatigued...

is there maybe some technique or something to get around this?

I like to sit on a chair and rest my elbow on my thigh the my hand holding weight pointed towards my opposite foot and then just raise the weight while keeping the elbow slightly touching the thigh.
 

leftyman

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If the tendon is "giving out" it is torn and you would need surgery.
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: leftyman
If the tendon is "giving out" it is torn and you would need surgery.

I mean it's getting fatigued and prevents me from doing anymore curls long before my actual bicep gets fatigued so I feel like I am not able to work my bicep as much as I should be
 

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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: leftyman
If the tendon is "giving out" it is torn and you would need surgery.

I mean it's getting fatigued and prevents me from doing anymore curls long before my actual bicep gets fatigued so I feel like I am not able to work my bicep as much as I should be

Correct me if I'm wrong, but tendons don't fatigue. I thought they hurt when they are overstressed. Have you tried using lighter weights but more reps?
 

leftyman

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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: leftyman
If the tendon is "giving out" it is torn and you would need surgery.

I mean it's getting fatigued and prevents me from doing anymore curls long before my actual bicep gets fatigued so I feel like I am not able to work my bicep as much as I should be

A tendon is not muscle..it cant get fatigued. that being said you might have tendonitis or a slight tear.. either of these would produce pain and discomfort as a symptom.
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: leftyman
If the tendon is "giving out" it is torn and you would need surgery.

I mean it's getting fatigued and prevents me from doing anymore curls long before my actual bicep gets fatigued so I feel like I am not able to work my bicep as much as I should be

A tendon is not muscle..it cant get fatigued. that being said you might have tendonitis or a slight tear.. either of these would produce pain and discomfort as a symptom.

It's always been like this though, whenever I've gotten motivated and started working out I always notice that my tendon would hurt before the muscle gets tired. Wouldn't a tear have healed over these years especially during the long stretches of times I have been lazy and not done regular exercise?

edit: and it's the same for both arms.
 

dullard

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I feel the exact same way. I just figured I have a weak brachialis muscle. It feels like the bicep tendon, but there are acutally other muscles right there that get quite tired when I'm doing curls (far before my bicep gets tired). And like that website says, doing isometric elbow flexion, it really does put emphasis right on the brachialis muscle that feels like a weak bicep tendon.

I could be just way off base though.
 

leftyman

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It could be tendonitis, you could be overworking the muscles and have a slight tear where the muscle connects to the tendon, you could be doing your curls wrong..it could be a lot of things but it isnt your tendon getting fatigued.
 

dmw16

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i think that your arms are just tired. I have never heard of a tendon (that isnt damaged) getting fatigued. If you can no longer curl the weight, odds are your bicep is tired. Just because they don't hurt doesn't mean that they aren't exhausted. How much weight are you curling and how many sets and reps?
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: dullard
I feel the exact same way. I just figured I have a weak brachialis muscle. It feels like the bicep tendon, but there are acutally other muscles right there that get quite tired when I'm doing curls (far before my bicep gets tired). And like that website says, doing isometric elbow flexion, it really does put emphasis right on the brachialis muscle that feels like a weak bicep tendon.

I could be just way off base though.

Hmm, that muscle looks like it's off on the side though.

Bend your arm now and flex your bicep, see that cylindrical firm tubelike tissue pop out right in the middle of the inside of your elbow, alongside the vein they would draw blood from? I think that's a tendon and that's exactly what starts to hurt when I do bicep curls.
 

49erinnc

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Sounds to me like you're using too much weight and possibly improper form.

When doing concentration curls like that, you do NOT need much weight. Also, keep your feet flat on the floor and your elbow should be lodged more into the inside of your knee and not so much your thigh. 3 seconds down, 2 seconds up on the movement.
 

SirChadwick

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I think you're just weak. Go down on the weight and then work your way up to Arnold status.
 

TheNinja

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What you are doing is concentration curls. Forget them. Go for standard Dumbell or barbell curls. Or seated/incline dumbells. concentration curls are worthless imo and it's hard to have perfect form with them.
 

ISAslot

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I used to get this when i started working my biceps. It went away though.
 

RaiderJ

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Just doing one type of exercise is limiting. Try doing different bicep focused workouts with different weights/reps.
 

Special K

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I wouldn't waste time doing isolation exercises like the concentration curls you are describing.

I would focus on more "compound" movements like standing barbell and DB curls. Granted curls in general are not really compound lifts, but your biceps will also be worked doing back exercises like rows and chins.
 

lozina

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yeah i am guilty of not really mixing it up too much. I will try a more varied combination of movements
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Special K
I wouldn't waste time doing isolation exercises like the concentration curls you are describing.

I would focus on more "compound" movements like standing barbell and DB curls. Granted curls in general are not really compound lifts, but your biceps will also be worked doing back exercises like rows and chins.

BINGO!

Folks, isolated lifts are a waste of time, and energy and should be used VERY sparingly.

I do 4-6 sets of direct bicep work a week. That's it. Same for triceps.

The bulk of my size comes from compound movements. Basically pushing and pulling.
 

SVT Cobra

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It is not your tendon, it is your msucle there that you are using to lift. You are not lifting it correctly with your bicep.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Special K
I wouldn't waste time doing isolation exercises like the concentration curls you are describing.

I would focus on more "compound" movements like standing barbell and DB curls. Granted curls in general are not really compound lifts, but your biceps will also be worked doing back exercises like rows and chins.

BINGO!

Folks, isolated lifts are a waste of time, and energy and should be used VERY sparingly.

I do 4-6 sets of direct bicep work a week. That's it. Same for triceps.

The bulk of my size comes from posing in front of the mirror. Basically preening and admiring myself
:laugh:
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Special K
I wouldn't waste time doing isolation exercises like the concentration curls you are describing.

I would focus on more "compound" movements like standing barbell and DB curls. Granted curls in general are not really compound lifts, but your biceps will also be worked doing back exercises like rows and chins.

BINGO!

Folks, isolated lifts are a waste of time, and energy and should be used VERY sparingly.

I do 4-6 sets of direct bicep work a week. That's it. Same for triceps.

The bulk of my size comes from posing in front of the mirror. Basically preening and admiring myself
:laugh:

Size of my ego, maybe. But my body needed just a little more work than that. :p
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Special K
I wouldn't waste time doing isolation exercises like the concentration curls you are describing.

I would focus on more "compound" movements like standing barbell and DB curls. Granted curls in general are not really compound lifts, but your biceps will also be worked doing back exercises like rows and chins.

BINGO!

Folks, isolated lifts are a waste of time, and energy and should be used VERY sparingly.

I do 4-6 sets of direct bicep work a week. That's it. Same for triceps.

The bulk of my size comes from compound movements. Basically pushing and pulling.

ok I will try that, do you have a link handy that demonstrates the exercises base don compound movements?