Tell me why I should keep a GTX560Ti versus a Radeon 5830.

[SunnyD]

Here's the deal in case you haven't read my anecdotal evidence thread... eh... okay, cliffs for the tl;dr challenged:

1. Sold GTX480 to downgrade and pocket some cash
2. Bought Radeon 5830 from FS/FT for a song, cash pocketed
3. Ended up with a trade offer the next day on my old cell phone for a new Asus GTX560 Ti.

While I haven't been gaming as much lately (I have 5 kids, and they're at the age where I get to be a soccer-mom... err... dad), I still am gaming some. Most of the games I'm playing aren't current generation high demand games. I do occasionally play a few though which need a bit more beef - Bad Company 2 for example, and I will probably get BF3. But for the most part I'm playing older or less demanding titles that even my lowly GT430 "backup card" had really no issues with.

Looking at the benchmarks, it looks like the GTX560 is about 2x faster than a 5830. But at the same rate, on a cost bases it's also slightly more than 2x the cost of the 5830. Also, looking at the benchmarks, it seems that for current generation titles, the GTX560 may only barely "cut it" anyway. But then again, I'm also NOT the kind of person that gives a shit if a game plays at 40fps or 400fps. Oh, I also don't give a crap about "Red vs. Green" - I've used both cards in the past and never had any problems with either camp.

That said, what considerations should I take into account on keeping a GTX560 Ti over a Radeon 5830 at this point?

 

[jacktesterson]

I'd sell it.

That 5830 can game at 1080 at medium to high (depending on game) settings for most games. Its in the area of 6850/460 performance, which is in my mind, a Good starting point for 1080p enjoyable gaming.

 

[The Ultimate]

GTX 560Ti may barely cut it at current games if you choose very high settings at high resolutions, otherwise it should be enough for most games outhere. and no, the HD 6850 is faster than the HD 5830 which barely outperformed the HD 5770 because it was severely neutered. The HD 6850 = GTX 460 768 and the HD 5830 always lagged behind of both, not by a huge margin.

 

[jacktesterson]

GTX 560Ti may barely cut it at current games if you choose very high settings at high resolutions, otherwise it should be enough for most games outhere. and no, the HD 6850 is faster than the HD 5830 which barely outperformed the HD 5770 because it was severely neutered. The HD 6850 = GTX 460 768 and the HD 5830 always lagged behind of both, not by a huge margin.

"area of"

paper stats. Real world, very little difference.

 

[hdfxst]

How far does it overclock?mine does 950/1200 on stock volts and 1025/1200@1.8v.if it's the xtreme it has a very good cooler on it.I expected this card to be a dog but it surprised me and i ended up keeping it when i shut down my bitcoin miners.use it and see what it does

 

[jacktesterson]

The Xtreme 5830 by Sapphire that newegg has ton on sale not too long ago... they overclocked liked crazy and stayed decent cool.. so it would be faster than a 768MB 460 for sure if O/C

The 5830 was not a bad card. It was priced bad. Yes it uses some power, but if priced better it would have not been so bad.

 

[MentalIlness]

6850 = http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/291
5830 = http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/171

 

[Puppies04]

3. Ended up with a trade offer the next day on my old cell phone for a new Asus GTX560 Ti.

Looking at the benchmarks, it looks like the GTX560 is about 2x faster than a 5830.

Just to check, you are aware the GTX 560TI and GTX560 are differnt cards. Did you miss the TI part out of the second quote or are you looking at benchmarks for a different card?

 

[SunnyD]

Just to check, you are aware the GTX 560TI and GTX560 are differnt cards. Did you miss the TI part out of the second quote or are you looking at benchmarks for a different card?

Yes. I just got sick of typing GTX560 Ti.

 

[Leyawiin]

The HD 5830 was not as bad a card as it was made out to be from a performance standpoint (and it did OC pretty well). If you aren't gaming much at this point and need the cash, sell the GTX 560 Ti. By the time you're ready for an uptick in your gaming time there will be better cards out there and you'll be in a better position to choose a product that matches the games that might interest you then.

That said, the Ti is an excellent midrange card and is more than capable for today's games. At stock clocks you'll probably get about 1/3 greater FPS over the HD 5830.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_560_Ti/27.html

Still, if you aren't gaming much and the HD 5830 suits your current needs, why bother keeping the Ti?

 

[biostud]

Since it sounds that you're happy with the 5830, I would sell the 560Ti. When you're to upgrade some time in the future you can probably get a new good deal on a card.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Yeah keep the 5830, sell the 560TI. The 560 Ti is a current and relevant card that'll fetch a good second hand price while the 5830 wasn't all that hot when it was new and has probably deprecated pretty bad by now. Nevertheless, since the 5830 does what you want, it makes more sense to stick with it, sell the 560Ti, then put the money into a real upgrade when the 5830 doesn't cut it anymore or one of your many kids gets into computer gaming with you.

 

[v8envy]

Been gaming on my ex-bitcoin 5830s as well. They're not all that terrible and downright good when crossfire works.

Mine run fine at 910 mhz downvolted to 1.1 volts. I can even go lower on the voltage or higher on the clock, but I don't like running at the very ragged edge. They still have "bitcoin cooling" (read: they live outside the case on a PCIe extender) so they run real quiet and about 60C under load.

Definitely an underrated card. Had AMD not tried to gouge $230 for these when they came out (mine were $104 shipped each) they'd have been much more popular.

Bitcoin made me nearly $700 while it was going on. I vowed to use all bitcoin winnings on video hardware so now I've got a huge upgrade budget -- but really, I feel no great urgency with these little cards in my machine. At 1920x1200 I haven't found anything I can't run.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Sell it. If you have to debate the cost, you need the money more.

 

[SunnyD]

Sell it. If you have to debate the cost, you need the money more.

Money really isn't an issue... I have spare cash to go out and buy a pair of GTX580's if I wanted to. Doesn't mean I'm going to, because that would be a waste of resources on my part.

 

[SirPauly]

Considering you were pleased with the GT 430, then the HD 5830, seems to be the answer.

More performance equates to having more performance now, for older, current and future titles. Where the HD 5830 may be okay now, may not be for a title you don't have or a future title, same can be said with a GTX 560 TI or any product. Depends on what type of image quality you like and the enhancements each GPU offers? What about resolution choice now or in the near future? What is important to you?

 

[96Firebird]

Whichever you can sell for more, sell it. I'm not sure if this is still the case, but a lot of people were buying 5830s for quite a bit because of bitcoining, but I think that has died down a lot. Test the market with both cards and see which one is easier to sell for more money...