Tell me about diablo II pubbie duels

[Maximilian]

Right i havent played much since 1.09 but im back into it now. The zon was king in 1.09, undisputed king of PvP, a good sorc could take one down but in reality nothing else had much of a chance.

As of 1.10 whats the best PvP character?? Im pretty dissillusioned as i thought hammerdins were the best but it dosent seem to be the case, theyre awesome vs monsters and for mfing but in pubbie duels dont fare too well (the ones i saw didnt, and i myself didnt). There was this level 90 bowazon who was trashing most other chars.... mustve had fort + faith.

So anyways, whats the best PvP char? This is pubbie duels im talking about where anything goes, none of that mannerly 3 2 1 ok lets fight! stuff, town camping, absorb, nk killing, its all there. Which char is best to wipe these games clean? Or at least kill some other people? Elemantal druid? Bowazon? Sorc and hope they dont have absorb? My bet would be on the elemental druid since he can tele and attack with nado without using the keyboard at all as hurricane lasts for a duration, however seeing that zon the other day... i dunno. So whoevers in the know about DII 1.12 PvP please inform me whats the best

 

[invidia]

Zon died in 1.10. There's a runeword that can slow the projectiles down. So if you're facing a bowazon, just equip that and they're the easy to kill.

For pub duels, you can go wind druid, leap/anti-caster barb, bone nec with engima, or the old fashion maxed FC fireball sorc.

For bad manner duels, bone necs wins hands down. Just spam bone wall and crash the game. Another bad manner dueler is a CS zon, who can one/two shot, even with maxed lightning absorb.

 

[CottonRabbit]

Originally posted by: invidia
There's a runeword that can slow the projectiles down.

?

Desync hammerdins with tmc hack are the best bm duelers. Gmod/tmc nado druids are also ridiculous. Gm players usually won't beat either of those. CS zons by themselves aren't bm. CS zons are only good when they bm and farcast hack/bug, and even then they can still be crushed since nking FC'ers are so common nowadays that every pally and barb will have anti-light gear.

If you don't want to hack (you shouldn't) and don't care about losing to hackers, then there are dozens of builds that will be effective in gm duels with the right gear.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: CottonRabbit

Originally posted by: invidia
There's a runeword that can slow the projectiles down.

?

Desync hammerdins with tmc hack are the best bm duelers. Gmod/tmc nado druids are also ridiculous. Gm players usually won't beat either of those. CS zons by themselves aren't bm. CS zons are only good when they bm and farcast hack/bug, and even then they can still be crushed since nking FC'ers are so common nowadays that every pally and barb will have anti-light gear.

If you don't want to hack (you shouldn't) and don't care about losing to hackers, then there are dozens of builds that will be effective in gm duels with the right gear.

What is the Gmod and tmc hack? I didnt understand a word of what you said lol, im still learning the new 1.12 abbreviations for things.

Anyone wanna translate?

Originally posted by: invidia
Zon died in 1.10. There's a runeword that can slow the projectiles down. So if you're facing a bowazon, just equip that and they're the easy to kill.

For pub duels, you can go wind druid, leap/anti-caster barb, bone nec with engima, or the old fashion maxed FC fireball sorc.

For bad manner duels, bone necs wins hands down. Just spam bone wall and crash the game. Another bad manner dueler is a CS zon, who can one/two shot, even with maxed lightning absorb.

So my PvP bowazon ive been making is doomed to failure??? Spamming guided arrow with faith + fort will not work?

 

[CottonRabbit]

Originally posted by: Soviet

What is the Gmod and tmc hack? I didnt understand a word of what you said lol, im still learning the new 1.12 abbreviations for things.

Gmod- Autoaims and reduces graphical clutter. Allows amazons using charged strike (cs)to "far cast" (fc), making charged strike an easy to hit ranged attack.

tmc- changes breakpoints, allowing extremely fast casting/hit recovery/blocking.

They ruin good mannered (gm) or semi-gm duels and you'll encounter them alot in pub duels. I usually just leave or mess around when a hdin or windy druid comes in and uses these. Since you said you want to wipe games clean, realize that you'll have to contend with these guys too.

So my PvP bowazon ive been making is doomed to failure??? Spamming guided arrow with faith + fort will not work?

No, depending on what faith and what charms, you'll be mediocre to pretty good to annoying if you just want to town hug. You won't dominate an entire game though, unless there are like 3 of you. I've never heard of a missile slowing runeword...

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: CottonRabbit

Originally posted by: Soviet

What is the Gmod and tmc hack? I didnt understand a word of what you said lol, im still learning the new 1.12 abbreviations for things.

Gmod- Autoaims and reduces graphical clutter. Allows amazons using charged strike (cs)to "far cast" (fc), making charged strike an easy to hit ranged attack.

tmc- changes breakpoints, allowing extremely fast casting/hit recovery/blocking.

They ruin good mannered (gm) or semi-gm duels and you'll encounter them alot in pub duels. I usually just leave or mess around when a hdin or windy druid comes in and uses these. Since you said you want to wipe games clean, realize that you'll have to contend with these guys too.

So my PvP bowazon ive been making is doomed to failure??? Spamming guided arrow with faith + fort will not work?

No, depending on what faith and what charms, you'll be mediocre to pretty good to annoying if you just want to town hug. You won't dominate an entire game though, unless there are like 3 of you. I've never heard of a missile slowing runeword...

Hmm i see. I actually have a hammerdin, it does 11k damage. But i get destroyed in pubbie duels because i have to have the aura active to do the damage and i cant teleport AND have the aura active at the same time, also having to hold shift to release the hammers is a pain. Is there any way around this? Is this why druids are better at PK because they are easier to use since they just cast hurricane and teleport + nado around the place? No need to switch skills with them.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: CottonRabbit
I've never heard of a missile slowing runeword...

I'm sure there was one. Maybe they removed it?
I haven't played since v1.11, but I still vaguely remember it (or something like it).
I've never seen it in action used by any player and I've never seen it myself.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: CottonRabbit
I've never heard of a missile slowing runeword...

I'm sure there was one. Maybe they removed it?
I haven't played since v1.11, but I still vaguely remember it (or something like it).
I've never seen it in action used by any player and I've never seen it myself.

Sanctuary has 60 charges of level 12 "slow missiles". You could always just keep dying till it runs out of charges and hope he dosent have the money to recharge it i guess.