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Teleporting

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wseyller

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Is this possible? Any theories? Do you remember that movie "The Fly"? If it were possible would the objects being teleported have to be converted to some other kind of energy, transmitted then converted back to the original state?
 
techinically its possible but it really won't be U.it will be an exact duplicate of your self. and you would actaully be dead.
 
Originally posted by: Falloutboy
techinically its possible but it really won't be U.it will be an exact duplicate of your self. and you would actaully be dead.
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That's only if there is a soul which can't be transported this way.
 
You brought up something similiar to what I was thinking. If you could infact convert an object or even living organisms to some kind of energy or data, could it be cloned since we can make copies of data and would a living organism survive the process? If teleporting was possible and we converted non-living objects into data and then clone it that would be like free stuff, minus the expense of teleporting. I wonder if that is how the replicators work on shows like Star Trek. Just a note, I'm not a raging Star Trekie fan.
 
Originally posted by: wseyller
You brought up something similiar to what I was thinking. If you could infact convert an object or even living organisms to some kind of energy or data, could it be cloned since we can make copies of data and would a living organism survive the process? If teleporting was possible and we converted non-living objects into data and then clone it that would be like free stuff, minus the expense of teleporting. I wonder if that is how the replicators work on shows like Star Trek. Just a note, I'm not a raging Star Trekie fan.
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yes thats how start trek teleporters and replicator technogy works in trek
 
Read "The Physics of Star Trek" by Krauss, there you will find all the details including some ways it could be done in the real world.
Btw, it is actually a good book so read it even if you are not a fan of Star Trek, it describes a lot of fun physics.

 
Looks like scientists are just learning how to teleport single atoms.
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Teleporting of multi-celled objects or beings are a long ways away, i would think. Especially now if the original atoms are being destroyed.
 
I can't find Quantum computers listed on pricewatch.

Guess I can't get involved in the teleportation experiment.
 
Originally posted by: Falloutboy
techinically its possible but it really won't be U.it will be an exact duplicate of your self. and you would actaully be dead.
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Hi,

For the reasons TuxDave gave - technically it's impossible right now - unless you have some new physics?

We need exact data for momentum and position of every atom that makes up your being at a specific instance in time. We can't do that because Heisenberg won't give us all the info.

The only teleporting that has been reported in journals that I'm aware of deals with the movement of information (when mentioning atoms what they mean is atomic state - not the movement of the actual atom IIRC) - not matter - and so Heisenberg isn't applicable.

Cheers,

Andy
 
Originally posted by: Fencer128
We need exact data for momentum and position of every atom that makes up your being at a specific instance in time. We can't do that because Heisenberg won't give us all the info.

The only teleporting that has been reported in journals that I'm aware of deals with the movement of information (when mentioning atoms what they mean is atomic state - not the movement of the actual atom IIRC) - not matter - and so Heisenberg isn't applicable.
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Quantum teleportation is a bit different than magical teleportation, but since subatomic particles are identical to each other, copying the quantum states is essentially identical to copying the physical particles as far as transportation is concerned. The only limitation is that you have to already have an equivalent amount of matter at the destination point as you have at the origin.

However, teleporting multiple atom systems is going to be difficult and I doubt if we'll ever scale it up to objects with around 10^30 atoms like humans.
 
Originally posted by: Fencer128
Originally posted by: Falloutboy
techinically its possible but it really won't be U.it will be an exact duplicate of your self. and you would actaully be dead.
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Hi,

For the reasons TuxDave gave - technically it's impossible right now - unless you have some new physics?

We need exact data for momentum and position of every atom that makes up your being at a specific instance in time. We can't do that because Heisenberg won't give us all the info.

The only teleporting that has been reported in journals that I'm aware of deals with the movement of information (when mentioning atoms what they mean is atomic state - not the movement of the actual atom IIRC) - not matter - and so Heisenberg isn't applicable.

Cheers,

Andy
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the question comes though do we need to be that acurate at what level do our minds work? quantum purely chemical or somewhere inbetween. if its above quantum you should be able to do teleportation even with the heisenberg principal.
 
First I would like to say that I probibly would not teleport myself as the thought of destroying me kindof scares me (Expecially since I believe in the existance of a soul). But it would definitly have some practical aplications. you could quickly move all your furniture from one house to another, You could transport valuable items quickly. And Im convinced that a recording of certain items would be kept so they could later be recreated. But recreating objects would require huge amounts of engery, Teleporting would get it energy from converting matter to energy (some energy would be lost, but it could be compensated for).

Another problem I see, wouldnt the objects being teleported arive cold? (absolute zero) Creating matter is one thing, but how would we move energy? Just a thought
 
Originally posted by: Cogman
Another problem I see, wouldnt the objects being teleported arive cold? (absolute zero) Creating matter is one thing, but how would we move energy? Just a thought
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Actually, we started doing teleportation experiments using energy--photons--and have only moved to teleporting atoms very recently.

Since the objects share all the quantum numbers of their source, their energy and momentum will be the same at the destination as they were at the source.
 
This discussion has come up in my physics class couple years ago. We also went the route of nanotechnology and being able to manipulate atoms (sub atomic) in a stable manner much like the inkjet printers that sit on ours desks.

The other part was for living objects being able to survive it.
 
For teleportation to work, firstly you would need matter-energy conversion, and obviously the reverse. This is still highly theoretical.
The difficult part, however, is knowing the exact position of EVERY particle of whatever you wish to transport, at an exact point in time. Of course, this means you loose accuracy of momentum. As this has to be known for every particle simultaneously, Heisenbergs principle of incertainty comes into play (if you really want to know, here -> http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08.htm (Stark Trek solves this by the use of a Heisenberg compensator. How this works is unfortunately not documented).

Peter R.
 
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