Telegraph UK: Bloodless President Barack Obama makes Americans wistful for Bush

[Nebor]

How many senseless soldiers deaths do you think were caused by the Iraq war compared to fort hoods losses?

Their death's weren't senseless, they were sacrificed in a war. That's what soldiers do.

 

[boomerang]

My wife's sister works for the government. We call her the "arms dealer" because every piece of armament of any kind that goes to the ME gets coordinated through her. Not just for war efforts, sales too. BTW, SA is the only country in the ME that we supply armaments to that pays for said armaments. Every other nation gets them gratis. She told us over the weekend of a meeting that was held last week regarding equipment badly needed in Afghanistan. The stuff is literally piled up in Iraq waiting for a home. Understand now, that this equipment is already bought and paid for and brand new.

The meeting involved herself, members from her office, and military people including soldiers that are stationed in Afghanistan. She said that she has never had troops present at a meeting of this nature and she knows they were brought there to purposely bring home the message of how desperately this equipment is needed.

She went on to say that she has never felt so bad in her life as she did to have to tell these troops, who were nearly begging for this equipment, that there was nothing she could do to get those items moved to where they were needed.

Her office is under direct orders to not move equipment to Afghanistan.

Our leader is going to make Carter look like a genius before this is all over. The rest of the world either knows, or is quickly catching on, that this man-child we've got running our nation is not suited for the job.

 

[Red Irish]

Change you can believe in. After just 9 months of Obama, people are changing their minds to realize that maybe Bush wasn't quite so bad as they thought.

Codswallop!

 

[Red Irish]

Their death's weren't senseless, they were sacrificed in a war. That's what soldiers do.

Wrong, that's what politicians do.

 

[Bowfinger]

Their death's weren't senseless, they were sacrificed in a war. That's what soldiers do.

Sacrificing one's life to protect one's country is meaningful. THAT is what soldiers do. Iraq posed no threat to the United States. Those deaths were tragically senseless.

 

[Bowfinger]

Another article that demonstrates the shallow and fickle nature of the American voter.

It's not a article, it's an op-ed. What it demonstrates is that the Telegraph is the UK's version of the Washington Times.

 

[shiner]

Bush may have been an idiot, but you knew where he stood. I haven't any sense for what the current guy really thinks or feels.

Apparently the need to be emotionally dysfunctional is a requirement these days.

So I can count on your vote in 2012?

 

[Lemon law]

Missing in action in the boomerang post of "Her office is under direct orders to not move equipment to Afghanistan.", is any evidence that Obama put that order in place.

As we may recall, it was GWB&co who were neglecting Afghanistan, long odds they put the order in place. Meanwhile the army has always been best explained by the word SNAFU.

 

[Red Dawn]

Sacrificing one's life to protect one's country is meaningful. THAT is what soldiers do. Iraq posed no threat to the United States. Those deaths were tragically senseless.

True but if you were to ask the soldiers there they'd say the sacrifices were for each other which is valiant.

 

[blackangst1]

Shockingly enough, a right wing editorial from the UK's leading right wing newspaper doesn't like Obama.

I haven't heard a single person whose opinion I agree with express wistfulness for Bush's presidency, that editorial is in fantasy land.

Fixed for accuracy

 

[ayabe]

Fixed for accuracy

No, it's the same 20% of people who support him and Cheney.

It's more than zero, but not significant. Keep dreaming.

 

[ProfJohn]

Missing in action in the boomerang post of "Her office is under direct orders to not move equipment to Afghanistan.", is any evidence that Obama put that order in place.

As we may recall, it was GWB&co who were neglecting Afghanistan, long odds they put the order in place. Meanwhile the army has always been best explained by the word SNAFU.

Obama has been President for 10+ months and yet you are still trying to place blame in Bush for 'orders' he may or may not have issued while President?

 

[blackangst1]

No, it's the same 20% of people who support him and Cheney.

It's more than zero, but not significant. Keep dreaming.

Why would I dream of a POTUS who passed the single worst piece of legislation in the 20th century?

I think you have me confused with a Bush lover.

 

[blackangst1]

Obama has been President for 10+ months and yet you are still trying to place blame in Bush for 'orders' he may or may not have issued while President?

Because without blaming Bush, the Dems dont have much of a platform. Which is why they will probably lose their majority in 2010/2012.

 

[boomerang]

Missing in action in the boomerang post of "Her office is under direct orders to not move equipment to Afghanistan.", is any evidence that Obama put that order in place.

As we may recall, it was GWB&co who were neglecting Afghanistan, long odds they put the order in place. Meanwhile the army has always been best explained by the word SNAFU.

If you got your head out of your ass on occasion, you might get a clearer view of the world around you. Your reply is nothing more than a knee jerk defense and a poor one at that. The idea that 10 months after Bush has left office, our military is still under his command is ludicrous. On March 27th of this year, the man-child running our country announced to the world, in a press conference, his plan for Afghanistan. His plan. He's owned it since that day.

Your posts used to be worth reading. Now they're nothing but blind partisanship.

I used to think that one day the worshipers such as yourself would come to a point where they would quit blaming everything on Obama's predecessor. It's becoming clear that day will most likely never come. Just as kids in the schoolyard blame others for their transgressions, so do the faithful blame Bush. Although it's not unexpected to find children acting like children it's become very tiresome.

 

[Bowfinger]

True but if you were to ask the soldiers there they'd say the sacrifices were for each other which is valiant.

Agreed, good point. There is certainly honor in protecting your brothers in arms. Tactically noble ... strategically senseless.

 

[Bowfinger]

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I used to think that one day the worshipers such as yourself would come to a point where they would quit blaming everything on Obama's predecessor. It's becoming clear that day will most likely never come. Just as kids in the schoolyard blame others for their transgressions, so do the faithful blame Bush. Although it's not unexpected to find children acting like children it's become very tiresome.

It's a valid complaint in many cases. Curious if you also made it about the people who spent the previous eight years blaming Clinton for everything?

 

[fskimospy]

Fixed for accuracy

I like how making my post wrong is now 'fixing it for accuracy'. I will repeat: I have not heard a single person speak wistfully about Bush's presidency. Attacks on Obama are followed by a desire for a 'conservative' president or something like that, but when Bush is mentioned it is always followed by 'but he sucked too'. You're talking about quite possibly the most widely and enduringly hated president in American history.

EDIT: Actually that was wrong. Sometimes people say that the Daily Show isn't as funny now because Obama's not as easy to make fun of as Bush, so I guess in that sense people miss him.

 

[Robor]

ROFl, wistful for Bush. Even those who spent 8 years defending the schmuck try to dismiss him these days.

This.