Teens pick wrong guy to rob - gets dead

[soulcougher73]

The dead guy was a thug, and we are better off without him, but I don't think it was his fault he was a thug. Not like that matters at this point, but just saying.

Who's fault is it then? You want to place blame somewhere else now for his actions? We all have choices in life, some are easier than others and offer less resistence. He chose his path.

 

[Vic]

The sergeant had every right to defend himself and did what was necessary to protect his life. There really isn't much compassion for the teen since what he did was completely moronic.

But I don't get how the OP is so giddy over this, the officer did what he had to do and I don't think he is happy that he killed the teen but WTF is wrong with the OP?

For at least once, Incorruptible, we are in complete agreement.
The answer to what's wrong with the OP is that he's never been in that kind of situation. He's basically the Schofield Kid.

 

[Geosurface]

In the other thread, Dunn was the attacker, and you desire his life and his freedom protected...

I mean, wow...

No, Dunn's role was analogous to that of the police officer in this case.

He was not the attacker, he defended himself. Therefore I'm being consistent. In both cases I support the person who defended themselves in the face of an imminent deadly attack or the threat of one.

failure on society's part

It may be my fault for leaving out food that my house is now filled with ants, but I'm still calling the exterminator.

I don't think it was his fault he was a thug.

It's not the fault of the rabid dog that he's rabid, but he's still getting put down.

The venomous spider didn't choose to be a venomous spider, but he's still getting smooshed.

 

[waggy]

For at least once, Incorruptible, we are in complete agreement.
The answer to what's wrong with the OP is that he's never been in that kind of situation. He's basically the Schofield Kid.

naa. the OP is just a racist gun nut. anytime a black kid gets shot in a SYG type case he bust a nut. to him th at is the ultimate thrill.

the Sargent in this case did what he had to. I don't think he is happy that he had to kill this thug (go ahead and accuse me of being racist. all you idiots aredoing is making people go WTF fuck you then). These thugs were out to kill and commit crimes.

Am i sad one died? not really. i do have pity on his family and the Sargent and his family.

 

[HomerJS]

Bet spidey had multiple orgasms during the slaughters in Rwanda.

oooooh...fap...fap...fap Dead skittles!

 

[cubby1223]

No, Dunn's role was analogous to that of the police officer in this case.

He was not the attacker, he defended himself. Therefore I'm being consistent. In both cases I support the person who defended themselves in the face of an imminent deadly attack or the threat of one.

You are absolutely consistent in your tendencies to believe white people are defenders deserving of every benefit of the doubt, while dark people are thug attackers deserving of being shot on sight.


What would be your opinion if as Dunn was pulling out his gun, the "thugs" pulled out a gun never before used to threaten Dunn with and shot Dunn dead? You would probably say that these thugs deserve to go to jail, even though they were defending themselves against the imminent threat that was Dunn.

The reason why Dunn went for his gun was his own paranoia. He encountered the situation perceiving them as a potential threat and that is exactly what his mind made true to motivate him to grab his gun and start firing. Paranoia, in my opinion, is not justification for shooting someone dead. Dunn was the attacker unless new evidence comes out. Which according to your own statements, you believe attackers should be shot dead and not have a chance to present evidence to the contrary.

In other words, you prejudge people just like Dunn did.

 

[Geosurface]

You are absolutely consistent in your tendencies to believe white people are defenders deserving of every benefit of the doubt, while dark people are thug attackers deserving of being shot on sight.

Then I guess I am really screwing up by siding with John McNeil and John White, two black men who shot young white men in self-defense.

 

[Retro Rob]

Then I guess I am really screwing up by siding with John McNeil and John White, two black men who shot young white men in self-defense.

Lol you're preaching to the choir. Anyone remotely familiar with your posting history can see through these lies your peddling.

 

[Geosurface]

Lol you're preaching to the choir. Anyone remotely familiar with your posting history can see through these lies your peddling.

I don't think you know what preaching to the choir means.

I think you meant to say what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears.

Which is true.

Though perhaps a better way to put it would be that what I'm saying is being ignored by a bunch of gun-hating, thug-fondling liberal douche bags who love nothing more than a good witch hunt for "racists."

 

[IGBT]

good..we need to purge more Skittle Scum from society.

 

[Retro Rob]

I don't think you know what preaching to the choir means.

I think you meant to say what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears.

Which is true.

Though perhaps a better way to put it would be that what I'm saying is being ignored by a bunch of gun-hating, thug-fondling liberal douche bags who love nothing more than a good witch hunt for "racists."

We aren't fond of thugs...we just despise racists. I just find it laughable how you're trying to convince folks you aren't a racist.

Maybe your "thug gene" would ring a bell:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2298122&highlight=

 

[Exophase]

The most disturbing thing isn't that spidey called this a happy ending but said happy endings all around. Somehow I think the teen's family isn't that happy, but maybe their misery is being called a happy ending too.

Guess how often white guys on LiveLeak say that about other white guys who died doing something stupid or criminal?

I don't even know what LiveLeak is, but I don't see why that justifies you saying it. Making statements about this person's potential offspring being violent or dangerous is dumb. You should know better. If you don't want to be confused for racist don't bring up the person's genetics, especially when you nothing about him outside the crime he committed.

 

[Pens1566]

good..we need to purge more Skittle Scum from society.

Oh how cute. Spidey's code word is spreading. Wonder if there's a sticky thread over at stormfront that gives him credit somehow.

 

[Geosurface]

We aren't fond of thugs...we just despise racists. I just find it laughable how you're trying to convince folks you aren't a racist.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of that. I understand that around here the term "racist" has a very, very loose definition which is used not only to shout down people like myself, who have probably in all honesty earned being called that, but frankly to do the same to a SHIT LOAD of other people who haven't said anything remotely racist.

I was getting called a racist on these boards just for properly understanding the evidence and law in the Zimmerman case. I was being called a racist LONG before I had any beliefs which would qualify me for that status. In fact, me becoming curious about why so many people used that as a shout down/shut up word, and how much it reminded me of someone screaming "heretic!" back in the day, are a big part of what got me curious enough to start looking into the whole issue.

Personally I think the term "racist" should be reserved for people who hate anyone who isn't of their own race, for irrational reasons and apply this feeling in a blanket fashion. They aren't open to friendship or compassion to anyone who isn't of their own race, and they apply sweeping stereotypes and acknowledge no exceptions.

But I fully understand I'm not going to get anyone here to use such a reasonable definition. After all, that would take away one of their favorite clubs to beat people who disagree with them over the head with.

Whether I qualify to be called that or not, as I said... it is applied to a VAST number of posters here who unquestionably do not. They are shouted down as racists merely for supporting self-defense in cases where the deceased is black and the shooter is not, etc.

 

[himkhan]

But man that guy handled the skittle properly. Nice.

good..we need to purge more Skittle Scum from society.

you 2 have been separated a long time and can I see a pic of you still joined at your common brain plz?

 

[waggy]

good..we need to purge more Skittle Scum from society.

I agree. skittles are just the poor mans M&M's. they are nasty.

 

[soulcougher73]

If you don't want to be confused for racist don't bring up the person's genetics, especially when you nothing about him outside the crime he committed.

So its racist to give a discription of someone who commited a crime? I dont care if he was an A+ student on the honor society and volunteered at homeless shelters. He still commited a crime of his own accord and lost his life for it. No sympathy found.

 

[himkhan]

I'm not trying to convince anyone of that.

That's a good thing but all the thousand word or shorter essays you type scream contrary. There is nothing to be ashamed of but please do us all the favour of stopping insulting us. Be who you are and be proud. You don't blend in well enough and you stick out so much to be a closet racist. Some times too many words start to tell more than you think.

 

[KK]

The most disturbing thing isn't that spidey called this a happy ending but said happy endings all around. Somehow I think the teen's family isn't that happy, but maybe their misery is being called a happy ending too.

More than likely this thug's parents doesn't give two shits. I bet the father wasn't even in the picture anyways.

 

[Exophase]

So its racist to give a discription of someone who commited a crime? I dont care if he was an A+ student on the honor society and volunteered at homeless shelters. He still commited a crime of his own accord and lost his life for it. No sympathy found.

No, and I think if you read what I said in the context in which I said it instead of picking it out like that you'd understand that.

When I said don't bring up a person's genetics, I meant don't use that as a basis for being critical against them. Not don't describe their appearance. Is being critical of their genetics racist? It is if the only thing we know about them genetically is their race.

 

[QuantumPion]

Bet these guys will think twice about robbing anyone again ;-). If only more stories ended this way eventually we'd have a lot less violent criminals.

It's more likely they'll be more picky in chosing a target that is defenseless next time and will shoot first before giving them any chance to defend themself.

 

[QuantumPion]

The most disturbing thing isn't that spidey called this a happy ending but said happy endings all around. Somehow I think the teen's family isn't that happy, but maybe their misery is being called a happy ending too.

It's not disturbing at all. Everyone cheers when the good guy wins and the bad guy gets what's coming to him. I doubt anyone cried in the theater when Hans in Die Hard kicked the bucket.

 

[Exophase]

More than likely this thug's parents doesn't give two shits. I bet the father wasn't even in the picture anyways.

Yeah I guess even his own mother must not love him and doesn't care at all that he's dead.

It's more likely they'll be more picky in chosing a target that is defenseless next time and will shoot first before giving them any chance to defend themself.

Maybe some will. Probably at least some are more willing to steal than they are to kill and won't find it worth the risk. The police are going to put in a lot more effort trying to catch you if you murdered someone than if you stole their wallet.

It's not disturbing at all. Everyone cheers when the good guy wins and the bad guy gets what's coming to him. I doubt anyone cried in the theater when Hans in Die Hard kicked the bucket.

This isn't a movie, people aren't just "good guys" or "bad guys", I can't believe someone would make that comparison. Appreciating that an innocent person wasn't killed is one thing, or even being glad that a dangerous person can't threaten anyone else, but saying happy endings all around is just perverse.

 

[NetWareHead]

This isn't a movie, people aren't just "good guys" or "bad guys", I can't believe someone would make that comparison. Appreciating that an innocent person wasn't killed is one thing, or even being glad that a dangerous person can't threaten anyone else, but saying happy endings all around is just perverse.

I beg to differ. What would you call a gun wielding thug who holds a guy up?

 

[WackyDan]

I'm not trying to convince anyone of that. I understand that around here the term "racist" has a very, very loose definition which is used not only to shout down people like myself, who have probably in all honesty earned being called that, but frankly to do the same to a SHIT LOAD of other people who haven't said anything remotely racist.

I was getting called a racist on these boards just for properly understanding the evidence and law in the Zimmerman case. I was being called a racist LONG before I had any beliefs which would qualify me for that status. In fact, me becoming curious about why so many people used that as a shout down/shut up word, and how much it reminded me of someone screaming "heretic!" back in the day, are a big part of what got me curious enough to start looking into the whole issue.

Personally I think the term "racist" should be reserved for people who hate anyone who isn't of their own race, for irrational reasons and apply this feeling in a blanket fashion. They aren't open to friendship or compassion to anyone who isn't of their own race, and they apply sweeping stereotypes and acknowledge no exceptions.

But I fully understand I'm not going to get anyone here to use such a reasonable definition. After all, that would take away one of their favorite clubs to beat people who disagree with them over the head with.

Whether I qualify to be called that or not, as I said... it is applied to a VAST number of posters here who unquestionably do not. They are shouted down as racists merely for supporting self-defense in cases where the deceased is black and the shooter is not, etc.

Well said. The shout down use of the term "racist" and those who use it in that fashion are another problem altogether. The fact that they use it to shout down opinions or observations and wield it as some sort of absolute moral statement speaks more to their denial about the nature of our society.