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Just watched that documentary on HBO, "Skinheads USA Soldiers Of The Race War".
I think I first watched this years ago. Made in 1993.
This MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN teen fits right in with the skinheads shown in this documentary.
In fact, and all of his MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN buddies, as well.
People should always remember what side you are on, the right side, and not one of those Trump cult thugs.
Seriously, I think these kids, the misguided youth of America, have not a clue as to the real world.
They need to spend one week in a real Nazi concentration camp, an realistic re-enactment of Hitlers Nazi Germany. Experience first hand what really happened during that era under the rule of Adolf Hitler. Walk in the shoes of those sent into those concentration camps.
THEN, these Trump children would sing a different tune.
I think what we really need in todays America is another military draft, along with another war.
That might shape these kids up and knock some sense into them. Maybe....?

We went thru Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, and we survived.
Good triumphed over evil in the end.
And we'll survive this Donald Trump era as well.
One day good will once again overcome evil as it did with Nazi Germany, and Donald Trump will be only a chapter in our history books.
Long forgotten.
 

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adult Trump supporters aren't aware that Puerto Ricans are US citizens, so what could you possibly expect of these relatively home-schooled kids?
Sad but true. As I recall students were required to pass a Civics class and pass before being allowed to graduate High School. At least that was the case when I was in High School.
 
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UberNeuman

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oh gosh and golly.... Those silly ragamuffins! ha! Don't ya just wanna tussle their hair and say "you big goofs!" Just be nice and quit pointing out their grotesque and anti-American views.

/fuck these MAGA chuds.
 

ImpulsE69

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They are from a catholic school? Exactly what the fuck are they teaching these kids? Or is being a shitty person a catholic thing?

rich spoiled kids..and any of those type of schools breed many of those type of kids. The hat kids parents are responsible for their views.
 

UNCjigga

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Ok...I will say something that might get me flamed here. I went through some Twitter threads to learn more about this and saw how this asshole student (the one facing off) was essentially doxxed in real time. That's not cool... Especially when you consider this kid is a minor and currently hundred of miles away from home and his parents' protection.

Keep in mind this asshat wasn't doing anything violent...he was being a dick. Shame on the chaperones/administrators who also let this happen. But we need to think hard about how far is too far for Twitter vigilante justice. I'm all for calling out racist adults and having them suffer consequences when their stupidity goes viral. I just think there should be boundaries with minors.
 
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UberNeuman

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Ok...I will say something that might get me flamed here. I went through some Twitter threads to learn more about this and saw how this asshole student (the one facing off) was essentially doxxed in real time. That's not cool... Especially when you consider this kid is a minor and currently hundred of miles away from home and his parents' protection.

Keep in mind this asshat wasn't doing anything violent...he was being a dick. Shame on the chaperones/administrators who also let this happen. But we need to think hard about how far is too far for Twitter vigilante justice. I'm all for calling out racist adults and having them suffer consequences when their stupidity goes viral. I just think there should be boundaries with minors.


No. No more of this "they didn't know" or "they're just kids" or "someone else is to blame."

Its a willful mindset that has been encouraged and engaged.
 
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As much as these little shits are demon spawns from Hades, I hate that we live in a world where social media can both create events like this in an instant, and destroy lives in microseconds of photo evidence.

It's a goddamn fucking shame, really. There really needs to be a tolerable age for stupidity.

--if you die from your stupidity...well, good, welcome to history
--if you survive your stupidity, and you are below the age of rational adulthood...let's give you 21 years on earth?....then you get 2 passes. All history of stupidity erased (outside of murder, rape, arson, etc)--you know, the verbal shit--then you get a chance to learn and grow into an adult like the rest of humanity had their chance, from c. 5500 BCE to ~2007 CE.

fair?

You're fighting both sides of the aisle with 'dat 'der rational argument of yours.
 
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Ok...I will say something that might get me flamed here. I went through some Twitter threads to learn more about this and saw how this asshole student (the one facing off) was essentially doxxed in real time. That's not cool... Especially when you consider this kid is a minor and currently hundred of miles away from home and his parents' protection.

Keep in mind this asshat wasn't doing anything violent...he was being a dick. Shame on the chaperones/administrators who also let this happen. But we need to think hard about how far is too far for Twitter vigilante justice. I'm all for calling out racist adults and having them suffer consequences when their stupidity goes viral. I just think there should be boundaries with minors.

Can't help but agree. I'm not doing a full on Trump "both sides" argument, but the other dude wasn't shying away from banging a drum 2 inches from his face. The kid was hands down the cocky looking retard though.

Like you said, nothing violent... not even saying anything obscene. Disrespectful? Sure, I guess. Ruin their lives forever? Now who is the crazy one?

By the way, the VERY VERY VERY FUCKING MINUSCULE few of you left leaning people here that are willing to branch out and realize that condemning these kids entirely isn't beneficial to society... You've shown that you're one of the sane people in life that aren't discriminate pieces of shit like the rest.

And as far as any progress - no amount of doxxing them and throwing them under the bus is going to fix the underlying problem. By doxxing them you're just going to make them go into hiding where they are likely just going to keep voting for Trump - and maybe some you might push towards white supremacist groups. Does that sound like progress? (Hint: It isn't dipshits).
 
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pcgeek11

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Wow teenagers doing stupid sh!t. Who would have guessed it could happen.

I think they need more guidance and maybe an @SS whipping or some punishment, but the majority of the blame belongs to those "adults" that are supposed to be in charge.
 

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Based on the title and the response so far, when I clicked on the video I expected something more like Charlottesville than some goofy looking kids standing around fairly passively. And from what I can tell the drummer approached them and not the other way around. Maybe I'm missing some context here, but I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

And it seems very unfair that whenever some conservative poster makes a thread about some left wing person or group acting badly you guys all brush it off as a non-event, or not indicative of the general left (assuming it doesn't just devolve immediately into attacking the OP)... and whatever, perhaps that's true. But this looks like the most overblown non-event event ever. Where's the consistency?
 

Zorba

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Living in KY I see this every single day, even in Lexington (because these kids are from KY - Covington - and are on a DC trip).

The little pricks have already come out lying (I wonder who they look up to for that?) saying that they were doing the school chant unless 'build the wall' is the school chant. Fucking little snot nosed pricks. Oh wait...very, very fine people.
And Covington is the "liberal" part of the state. I remember when I lived in Cincinnati, you'd hear people from KY talk about Northern KY like it was San Fran.
 
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Based on the title and the response so far, when I clicked on the video I expected something more like Charlottesville than some goofy looking kids standing around fairly passively. And from what I can tell the drummer approached them and not the other way around. Maybe I'm missing some context here, but I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

And it seems very unfair that whenever some conservative poster makes a thread about some left wing person or group acting badly you guys all brush it off as a non-event, or not indicative of the general left (assuming it doesn't just devolve immediately into attacking the OP)... and whatever, perhaps that's true. But this looks like the most overblown non-event event ever. Where's the consistency?

Maybe try and read the article next time so you don't come off as an apologist.
 

Capt Caveman

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Can't help but agree. I'm not doing a full on Trump "both sides" argument, but the other dude wasn't shying away from banging a drum 2 inches from his face. The kid was hands down the cocky looking retard though.

Like you said, nothing violent... not even saying anything obscene. Disrespectful? Sure, I guess. Ruin their lives forever? Now who is the crazy one?

By the way, the VERY VERY VERY FUCKING MINUSCULE few of you left leaning people here that are willing to branch out and realize that condemning these kids entirely isn't beneficial to society... You've shown that you're one of the sane people in life that aren't discriminate pieces of shit like the rest.

And as far as any progress - no amount of doxxing them and throwing them under the bus is going to fix the underlying problem. By doxxing them you're just going to make them go into hiding where they are likely just going to keep voting for Trump - and maybe some you might push towards white supremacist groups. Does that sound like progress? (Hint: It isn't dipshits).

The Vietnam Vet wasn't shying away? They were in his face you stupid dipshit. Chanting and mocking him. Piece of shit. Fuck these kids, they knew they were being filmed and knew they were going to be on the news and social media but that didn't stop them from being racist lowlives. Hope they enjoy being expelled from school and the crap they get on social media. Zero sympathy
 

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Based on the title and the response so far, when I clicked on the video I expected something more like Charlottesville than some goofy looking kids standing around fairly passively. And from what I can tell the drummer approached them and not the other way around. Maybe I'm missing some context here, but I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

And it seems very unfair that whenever some conservative poster makes a thread about some left wing person or group acting badly you guys all brush it off as a non-event, or not indicative of the general left (assuming it doesn't just devolve immediately into attacking the OP)... and whatever, perhaps that's true. But this looks like the most overblown non-event event ever. Where's the consistency?

The Natives were marching and had a permit for it. The kids stood in their way, blocking and mocking them.
 

Thump553

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A question and a comment:

My question, where the f*** were the chaperones for this school field trip? Every school trip I've ever heard of had a surfeit of chaperones-ususally one for every couple of kids. They are supposed to be responsible adults. My only conclusion is this was a political event staged by the school to "educate and guide" the kids and this confrontation fit squarely within the world view of this organization and the associated chaperones. Now that it has gotten a wide and well deserved backlash from the public as large the church and school are disavowing the actions they set up.

My observation: Having been to the Lincoln Memorial a number of times, it is in my most sincere view, the most scared spot of the American spirit, a nonreligious mecca . I don't see how anyone could go there and not be profoundly moved. I could go on for pages what the Lincoln Memorial means but it is best to go there yourself.

A true sacrilege. The parents who have raised these kids have some real soul searching to do.
 
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As much as these little shits are demon spawns from Hades, I hate that we live in a world where social media can both create events like this in an instant, and destroy lives in microseconds of photo evidence.

It's a goddamn fucking shame, really. There really needs to be a tolerable age for stupidity.

--if you die from your stupidity...well, good, welcome to history
--if you survive your stupidity, and you are below the age of rational adulthood...let's give you 21 years on earth?....then you get 2 passes. All history of stupidity erased (outside of murder, rape, arson, etc)--you know, the verbal shit--then you get a chance to learn and grow into an adult like the rest of humanity had their chance, from c. 5500 BCE to ~2007 CE.

fair?

There's plenty of people that fucked up, owned it, and used situations like this to become better people. Now its up to them to recognize their shitty behavior and change it in the future and say "that was fucking disgusting, I'm ashamed, and it will serve as a reminder that I am capable of being a horrible person and I work every day to make the opposite true just to try and make amends for that single moment in my life."

I will say they're doing a great job in showing that human fetuses can be more valuable than nearly fully developed adult humans. But then, it just makes me wish that post-birth abortions were legal and that we could flush the lot of those soulless husks and use their organs to help people that have some redeeming quality. Honestly their shit would do more good in the world than they consciously are by nourishing some plants and bugs. As it is now, they're just being complete drains on the progress of humanity.

Hope they'll love being poster boys for modern racism and stupidity. I'd say with any luck their children's children will remark about their racist shit for brain grandfathers, but I hope they all end up fucking neutered so we don't have to deal with any of their demented inbred offspring born likely out of raping their sisters and cousins.
 
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Wow teenagers doing stupid sh!t. Who would have guessed it could happen.

I think they need more guidance and maybe an @SS whipping or some punishment, but the majority of the blame belongs to those "adults" that are supposed to be in charge.


Agreed. I wouldn’t get too worked up over teenagers, I did stupid stuff at that age and was a pretty good kid compared to a lot of them. If there were adults there watching that happen they should have shut it down with he swiftness.
 
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Ok...I will say something that might get me flamed here. I went through some Twitter threads to learn more about this and saw how this asshole student (the one facing off) was essentially doxxed in real time. That's not cool... Especially when you consider this kid is a minor and currently hundred of miles away from home and his parents' protection.

Keep in mind this asshat wasn't doing anything violent...he was being a dick. Shame on the chaperones/administrators who also let this happen. But we need to think hard about how far is too far for Twitter vigilante justice. I'm all for calling out racist adults and having them suffer consequences when their stupidity goes viral. I just think there should be boundaries with minors.

I will not celebrate that, but we're at the point where the only way these fucking racist pieces of shit will change is if they have to face tangible repercussions for their actions. I hope no harm beyond mean words and maybe some difficulty in explaining their actions to a world that holds them accountable for them, befalls them. But I do not worry about them having to understand the fear that they have been instilling into others, especially since it will be momentary compared to the lifetime of apprehension that they've made sure others will deal with because of their despicable ideology.

Plus, have a hunch that Turmp will be hosting them in the White House with Big Macs ASAP.
 

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Wow teenagers doing stupid sh!t. Who would have guessed it could happen.

I think they need more guidance and maybe an @SS whipping or some punishment, but the majority of the blame belongs to those "adults" that are supposed to be in charge.
You mean their parents that taught them this, right?
 
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As much as these little shits are demon spawns from Hades, I hate that we live in a world where social media can both create events like this in an instant, and destroy lives in microseconds of photo evidence.

It's a goddamn fucking shame, really. There really needs to be a tolerable age for stupidity.

--if you die from your stupidity...well, good, welcome to history
--if you survive your stupidity, and you are below the age of rational adulthood...let's give you 21 years on earth?....then you get 2 passes. All history of stupidity erased (outside of murder, rape, arson, etc)--you know, the verbal shit--then you get a chance to learn and grow into an adult like the rest of humanity had their chance, from c. 5500 BCE to ~2007 CE.

fair?


Yes.

But now what are we gonna do with all this rope?