Teen Sex:8-6-06 Sexual lyrics prompt teens to have sex

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Cerb

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Originally posted by: jrenz
Originally posted by: alchemize
Next thing you know, they'll be telling us reading romance novels causes women to want sex too...(but only after appropriate romantic precursors, such as a muscly man riding bare-chested on a mighty stallion to save them from a swarthy road agent).
Good thing kids don't read these days.
Absolutely. To think, if anyone read Heinlein, they'd probably think this was funny, and be more concerned about potential voting fraud. Oh, wait...

Of course, haven't most of us been bombarded with this stuff for ages? I mean, I almost certainly heard Zep's cover, The Lemon Song, many times before I was even born. Next thing you, large scale teen masturbation among metalheads will be blamed on Mike Patton :). Or maybe even more 'insidious' thoughts and behavior (B-E A-G-G-R-E-S-S-I-V-E).

Of course, by that, anyone exposed to any Zappa is plain hopeless (and will own a poodle).

Originally posted by: daniel49
It's quite possible that listening to Toby Keith day in and day out would turn me into a red-stater Republican, but why would I pick up his album in the first place considering I think he's a big tool?
If I liked country music I would suggest it would be a good experiment for you, but I can't stand country.
Toby Keith is pop, just without skimpy outfits and dancing.

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Most of the music they're talking about, if not all of it, is crap, sure, but they fail to define it, and fail to point out causation. Take, FI:
Teens who said they listened to lots of music with degrading sexual messages
Now, that tells me that the questions asked in the survey were carrots on sticks.
to start having intercourse or other sexual activities within the following two years as were teens who listened to little or no sexually degrading music.
How loosely do they define 'other sexual activities'?
"I won't really realize that the person is talking about having sex or raping a girl," she said. Even so, the message "is being beaten into the teens' heads," she said. "We don't even really realize how much."
er, stupidity, anyone? I can't think of anything I listen to half as explicit as the pop crap they're certainly dealing with, but it ain't exactly a mystery what "screams of entry blur my vision" is talking about, ya know (I just happen to have The Thin Line stuck in my head, ATM; else I'm sure I could come up with better examples)?

"Teens will try to deny it, they'll say 'No, it's not the music,' but it IS the music. That has one of the biggest impacts on our lives," Ramsey said.
Again, to Zappa, with some genius:
"I wrote a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?" Senate Hearing on Porn Rock (1985) in response to Tipper Gore's allegations that music incites people towards deviant behavior, or influences their behavior in general.
"There are more love songs than anything else. If songs could make you do something we'd all love one another."
 

BoberFett

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Haha, yeah, because we all know that teenagers weren't getting frisky back when The Ballad of Davy Crockett was at the top of the charts. :D
 

fallensight

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This ends up getting down to a 'chicken or the egg' argument. The people who want the songs to lead to sex see the egg. People who think you pick music that you can relate to see the chicken. These sorts of studies tend to find the result they are looking for. If you word questions right you can get people to agree with anything.

They never mention songs in peticular either. So 'sexually explicite' never gets a definition.

Odds are this DOES end up in congress, and I expect you will see ALOT of the right wing using this as fodder for the election season, unspecified values and all, that they like to spew. There will be talk of 'protecting the children' from this thing, and politicians and plenty of sheep will jump on board. It seems to pop up in a big way about every 20 years, so we are right on track. It is just one generation thinking the younger one's music is horrible and untollerable, and at fault for the things thier children do. After all it cant possibly be the parenting....
 

Xyclone

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
When are we going to see the following headline:?


"Hormones prompt teens to have sex"

In modern day America, pretty damn soon. ;)
 

engineereeyore

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Just because sex exist doesn't mean it should be shoved into peoples faces. Granted, they have the ability to not listen to it. But flip, murder exist. Rape exist. Should we encourage them to listen to music that promotes those ideals? And you can't claim that sex doesn't have as drastic side-effects, because we all know STDs and unplanned pregnancies can drastically alter someones life.

Just my opinion though.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: fallensight
Odds are this DOES end up in congress, and I expect you will see ALOT of the right wing using this as fodder for the election season, unspecified values and all, that they like to spew. There will be talk of 'protecting the children' from this thing, and politicians and plenty of sheep will jump on board. It seems to pop up in a big way about every 20 years, so we are right on track. It is just one generation thinking the younger one's music is horrible and untollerable, and at fault for the things thier children do. After all it cant possibly be the parenting....

Right wing? What the hell is wrong with you partisan fools that think somehow the "left wing" is better than the "right wing". Let me tell you, jackass, neither wing in this country has anybody's benefit in mind other than their own. Just who do you think fought to have THIS LABEL put on music. That's right, one of your precious "left wing" advocates.

In short, STFU.
 

sdifox

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oh no, they won't be able to listen to "Let's get it on" anymore? lol...
 

Fingolfin269

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I thought this was hard wired into my body when I was born. Something along the lines of 'instinct'.

Rabbits must have some kick ass music.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: fallensight
Odds are this DOES end up in congress, and I expect you will see ALOT of the right wing using this as fodder for the election season, unspecified values and all, that they like to spew. There will be talk of 'protecting the children' from this thing, and politicians and plenty of sheep will jump on board. It seems to pop up in a big way about every 20 years, so we are right on track. It is just one generation thinking the younger one's music is horrible and untollerable, and at fault for the things thier children do. After all it cant possibly be the parenting....

Right wing? What the hell is wrong with you partisan fools that think somehow the "left wing" is better than the "right wing". Let me tell you, jackass, neither wing in this country has anybody's benefit in mind other than their own. Just who do you think fought to have THIS LABEL put on music. That's right, one of your precious "left wing" advocates.

In short, STFU.

Bahahahaha That's a Label letting Parents know the lyrics are intense, not a ban.

Typical Apologist response.
 

AgentJean

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Originally posted by: jrenz
Will the RIAA fight to stop the ban on music?

How long before the ban goes into effect?

What are you talking about?

He's confused. He thinks the RIAA is out for the people. No, the RIAA is out for themselves and their money.

I think the RIAA supports this type of music and wants more of it.

Why? Well if teenagers have more sex that increases the number of offspring.
More offspring means more people to buy more music, which means more money for the RIAA.

Thow in the exponential growth of reproduction and the RIAA is getting wet dreams over all the money they will get.