Teen Gets 17 Years for Having Oral Sex

[Grasshopper27]

Matthew Limon was barely 18 when he was caught performing oral sex on a 14 year old boy who lived at a teen shelter with him. It was consensual, nevertheless he was sentenced to 17 years, in accord with Kansas law.

The case is now in the Supreme Court, arguing that Kansas law unfairly punishes gays more harshly than heterosexuals. If Limon had been caught doing the same thing to a girl, he would have gotten 15 months, under the 'Romeo and Juliet' law.

That law differentiates between teens of different ages that have sex and a full fledged adult having sex with a teen, provided they are of the opposite sex. Supporters say states have a right to make a moral distinction between homo/hetero sex.

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[StageLeft]

Um, that sounds just a WEE bit extreme.

 

[geno]

yuck

 

[Mustangrrl]

That's completely unfair, backwards, and ludicrous... I hope he wins. He didn't rape the other guy, and they're both developmentally disabled - his mental age probably matches closely with that of his boyfriend. Ugh, anyway, this makes me mad.
Thanks Hopper, pretty interesting.

 

[Wduaqnug]

nasty crap , wanna throw up

 

[hdeck]

that's bad, but it Texas it is against the law to be gay, doesn't matter what age.

 

[apoppin]

Today, the U.S. Supreme Court will decide whether to hear arguments in Limon's case.

The court has already agreed to hear a challenge to a Texas law that hands out stiffer penalties to gays than heterosexuals for committing sodomy. With this case, the court will take another look at its 1986 decision in Bowers vs. Hardwick that said the Constitution did not protect the rights of gays and lesbians to engage in sex in the privacy of their homes

Advocates of same-sex sodomy laws say the states have every right to differentiate between homosexual and heterosexual conduct under the law:

States have the prerogative to make a moral distinction between homosexual and heterosexual conduct, said Lively, who co-authored a brief in the Lawrence case in support of same-sex sodomy laws. Gay individuals have no grounds for an equal protection challenge because they are not similarly situated as heterosexuals, he said.

Further, Lively noted the disproportionate effect of sodomy by gays and heterosexuals. "Same-sex sodomy carries a much bigger social price tag on AIDS alone," he said. He noted that gay men make up a disproportionate number of the nation's HIV/AIDS cases.

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: Mustangrrl
That's completely unfair, backwards, and ludicrous... I hope he wins. He didn't rape the other guy, and they're both developmentally disabled - his mental age probably matches closely with that of his boyfriend. Ugh, anyway, this makes me mad.
Thanks Hopper, pretty interesting.

A 14 year old is not developed enough to make a decision on consensual sex, a 17 year old on the other hand is. This is rape.

And if mental retardation is a factor here, then the opportunity shouldn't be given for this to happen.

 

[majewski9]

yeah I dont know about 17 years but that is pretty gross.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: Mustangrrl
That's completely unfair, backwards, and ludicrous... I hope he wins. He didn't rape the other guy, and they're both developmentally disabled - his mental age probably matches closely with that of his boyfriend. Ugh, anyway, this makes me mad.
Thanks Hopper, pretty interesting.

A 14 year old is not developed enough to make a decision on consensual sex, a 17 year old on the other hand is. This is rape.

You are completely MISSING the POINT. IF this SAME individual had sex with a 14-year-old GIRL, he would be facing a maximum of 15 MONTHS not YEARS.

His :mistake" - according to Kansas (bigoted) law - is being gay.

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: Mustangrrl
That's completely unfair, backwards, and ludicrous... I hope he wins. He didn't rape the other guy, and they're both developmentally disabled - his mental age probably matches closely with that of his boyfriend. Ugh, anyway, this makes me mad.
Thanks Hopper, pretty interesting.

A 14 year old is not developed enough to make a decision on consensual sex, a 17 year old on the other hand is. This is rape.

You are completely MISSING the POINT. IF this SAME individual had sex with a 14-year-old GIRL, he would be facing a masximum ogf 15 MONTHS not YEARS.

Yeah well, laws are laws. And my response was to Mustangrrl, so it was a little skewed from the original article.

 

[cressida]

:disgust:

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: Mustangrrl
That's completely unfair, backwards, and ludicrous... I hope he wins. He didn't rape the other guy, and they're both developmentally disabled - his mental age probably matches closely with that of his boyfriend. Ugh, anyway, this makes me mad.
Thanks Hopper, pretty interesting.

A 14 year old is not developed enough to make a decision on consensual sex, a 17 year old on the other hand is. This is rape.

You are completely MISSING the POINT. IF this SAME individual had sex with a 14-year-old GIRL, he would be facing a masximum ogf 15 MONTHS not YEARS.

Yeah well, laws are laws.

And some laws are completely UNFAIR as well as STUPID. And the Supreme Court may decide to review this case - or not.

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: Mustangrrl
That's completely unfair, backwards, and ludicrous... I hope he wins. He didn't rape the other guy, and they're both developmentally disabled - his mental age probably matches closely with that of his boyfriend. Ugh, anyway, this makes me mad.
Thanks Hopper, pretty interesting.

A 14 year old is not developed enough to make a decision on consensual sex, a 17 year old on the other hand is. This is rape.

You are completely MISSING the POINT. IF this SAME individual had sex with a 14-year-old GIRL, he would be facing a masximum ogf 15 MONTHS not YEARS.

Yeah well, laws are laws.

And some laws are completely UNFAIR as well as STUPID. And the Supreme Court may decide to review this case - or not.

Even if they do, it will take years to get to them. Sux being gay in Kansas I guess.

 

[her209]

If he's gay, then he should enjoy it in prison.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: her209
If he's gay, then he should enjoy it in prison.

 

[MadRat]

Shoot em both. That'll speed up fixing the problem...

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: MadRat
Shoot em both. That'll speed up fixing the problem...

And send the bill for the bullets to their families.

 

[dayg]

I would agree with her209.
He'll enjoy the prison for 17 years. He can give oral to all the prisoners and maybe even make a few bucks while at it. What a lucky guy! LOL

 

[badluck]

Yeah well, laws are laws. And my response was to Mustangrrl, so it was a little skewed from the original article.

Man, you are ignorant.......

 

[Mustangrrl]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: Mustangrrl
That's completely unfair, backwards, and ludicrous... I hope he wins. He didn't rape the other guy, and they're both developmentally disabled - his mental age probably matches closely with that of his boyfriend. Ugh, anyway, this makes me mad.
Thanks Hopper, pretty interesting.

A 14 year old is not developed enough to make a decision on consensual sex, a 17 year old on the other hand is. This is rape.

And if mental retardation is a factor here, then the opportunity shouldn't be given for this to happen.

Developmental disability IS a factor here, they should have been more closely watched.

I didn't mean what happened isn't legally considered rape, I meant it wasn't forced sexual contact... he shouldn't have done it, no doubt, but he's ALSO being punished for being gay, there's no other excuse for the discrepancy in the law between heterosexual and homosexual contact.

 

[Moonbeam]

"yuck" "nasty crap , wanna throw up" "... but that is pretty gross."

These are examples of why ours laws are the brilliant examples of equality they are. We legislate our irrational biases right into law. I am constitutionally unable to deal with a completely absurd gag response and I demand you punish anything that makes my irrational stupid foolish self upset. I absolutely demand it, do you hear. GOD DAMN IT. YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME EXPERIENCE MY OWN STUPIDITY IF I HAVE TO LOCK YOU UP FOREVER. SHOT EM BOTH!!!!

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: Mustangrrl

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: Mustangrrl
That's completely unfair, backwards, and ludicrous... I hope he wins. He didn't rape the other guy, and they're both developmentally disabled - his mental age probably matches closely with that of his boyfriend. Ugh, anyway, this makes me mad.
Thanks Hopper, pretty interesting.

A 14 year old is not developed enough to make a decision on consensual sex, a 17 year old on the other hand is. This is rape.

And if mental retardation is a factor here, then the opportunity shouldn't be given for this to happen.

Developmental disability IS a factor here, they should have been more closely watched.

I didn't mean what happened isn't legally considered rape, I meant it wasn't forced sexual contact... he shouldn't have done it, no doubt, but he's ALSO being punished for being gay, there's no other excuse for the discrepancy in the law between heterosexual and homosexual contact.

Well personally I don't think he should get any jail time if he's mentally retarded. He needs special help, not get locked up in a cell.

 

[Mustangrrl]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"yuck" "nasty crap , wanna throw up" "... but that is pretty gross."

These are examples of why ours laws are the brilliant examples of equality they are. We legislate our irrational biases right into law. I am constitutionally unable to deal with a completely absurd gag response and I demand you punish anything that makes my irrational stupid foolish self upset. I absolutely demand it, do you hear. GOD DAMN IT. YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME EXPERIENCE MY OWN STUPIDITY IF I HAVE TO LOCK YOU UP FOREVER. SHOT EM BOTH!!!!

EXACTLY! Thanks, Moonbeam, I was struggling for the right words.

 

[Aceshigh]

Originally posted by: her209
If he's gay, then he should enjoy it in prison.

LOL