Teen Falls In Love With Undercover Cop In Marijuana Sting

[JSt0rm]

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Costs to taxpayers

A 2008 study by Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron has estimated that legalizing drugs would inject $76.8 billion a year into the U.S. economy — $44.1 billion from law enforcement savings, and at least $32.7 billion in tax revenue ($6.7 billion from marijuana, $22.5 billion from cocaine and heroin, remainder from other drugs).[99][100]
Low taxation in Central American countries has been credited with weakening the region's response in dealing with drug traffickers. Many cartels, especially Los Zetas have taken advantage of the limited resources of these nations. 2010 tax revenue in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, composed just 13.53% of GDP. As a comparison, in Chile and the U.S., taxes were 18.6% and 26.9% of GDP respectively. Additionally, many Central American tax codes are highly regressive and emphasize indirect, Value Added Taxes (VATs) on good purchased, which disproportionately affect the less fortunate. Essentially, those with more money are taxed pretty much equally on the goods they purchase. However, direct taxes on income are very hard to enforce and in some cases tax evasion is seen as a national pastime.[101]


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44.1 billion dollar drop in tax payer funding of LE without the war on drugs. How many of your fellow cops would be laid off?

 

[Phokus]

Police departments are not for profit. Yes, it costs money to do stuff. However, your implication that I personally profited is ludicrous. I made the same amount of money regardless of what I did - making MJ legal would've, if anything, made life easier because I wouldn't have had to waste time on shit cases that were going nowhere.

It only makes sense that LE would advocate against drugs..because they're illegal, and LE enforces laws. It's really not much of a disconnect.

Police departments are almost a de facto for profit organizations, because of civil asset forfeiture. You can confiscate houses, cars, boats, just about anything associated with the drug trade. That's the reason why most police officers prefer having most drugs illegal, including marijuana.

 

[JSt0rm]

He wont have this conversation

The police are as bad as the teachers unions. All that matters that that they get theirs, fuck whats actually good for the country.

 

[FallenHero]

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Costs to taxpayers

A 2008 study by Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron has estimated that legalizing drugs would inject $76.8 billion a year into the U.S. economy — $44.1 billion from law enforcement savings, and at least $32.7 billion in tax revenue ($6.7 billion from marijuana, $22.5 billion from cocaine and heroin, remainder from other drugs).[99][100]
Low taxation in Central American countries has been credited with weakening the region's response in dealing with drug traffickers. Many cartels, especially Los Zetas have taken advantage of the limited resources of these nations. 2010 tax revenue in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, composed just 13.53% of GDP. As a comparison, in Chile and the U.S., taxes were 18.6% and 26.9% of GDP respectively. Additionally, many Central American tax codes are highly regressive and emphasize indirect, Value Added Taxes (VATs) on good purchased, which disproportionately affect the less fortunate. Essentially, those with more money are taxed pretty much equally on the goods they purchase. However, direct taxes on income are very hard to enforce and in some cases tax evasion is seen as a national pastime.[101]


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44.1 billion dollar drop in tax payer funding of LE without the war on drugs. How many of your fellow cops would be laid off?

Not a whole lot. Many police departments around the country are already operating at reduced levels of staffing. MJ isn't really a cash cow in terms of seizures anyway. Going after the big boys dealing meth, cocaine and heroin is where a ton of seizure money comes into play.

I agree MJ should be legalized, but don't paint us all as "profiteering" from the war on drugs. Drugs is just ONE aspect of our job.

 

[Train]

The war on drugs is a huge expenditure for the country and the benefactors of that money are police forces and the industries that supply them all around the country.

Infact I bet if you look at any advocate for the war on drugs you will find someone that works in the law enforcement industry. And make no mistake, it IS a industry.

That's like saying doctors are the benefactors of car accidents and shootings.

It's a myth that if drugs are legalized there will suddenly be tons of money available that was spent on law enforcement. The same money will be spent on the same cops... enforcing something else. You won't suddenly see a million laid off cops

 

[zinfamous]

that is some fucked up shit right there.

 

[zinfamous]

That's like saying doctors are the benefactors of car accidents and shootings.

It's a myth that if drugs are legalized there will suddenly be tons of money available that was spent on law enforcement. The same money will be spent on the same cops... enforcing something else. You won't suddenly see a million laid off cops

I think the DEA could be better serviced patrolling the borders and, er, "keeping them safe," in such a world where drugs were made legal in this country.

we wouldn't have to worry about all those unlicensed rednecks that are hanging out there now patrolling with their shotguns, pickup trucks, and budweiser.

 

[JSt0rm]

Not a whole lot. Many police departments around the country are already operating at reduced levels of staffing. MJ isn't really a cash cow in terms of seizures anyway. Going after the big boys dealing meth, cocaine and heroin is where a ton of seizure money comes into play.

I agree MJ should be legalized, but don't paint us all as "profiteering" from the war on drugs. Drugs is just ONE aspect of our job.

The industry of LE is profiting from the drug war. That means each of you are profiting just a little bit but it certainly adds up.

That's like saying doctors are the benefactors of car accidents and shootings.

It's a myth that if drugs are legalized there will suddenly be tons of money available that was spent on law enforcement. The same money will be spent on the same cops... enforcing something else. You won't suddenly see a million laid off cops

44.1 billion dollars less in LE costs and almost double that amount in new taxes. Now these numbers include ALL drugs and I would say we are not asking for ALL drugs to be legalized.

If you say these numbers are a myth you need to back that up with reputable links and LE industry links wont work as that's obviously a biased source.

 

[JSt0rm]

That's like saying doctors are the benefactors of car accidents and shootings.

Also this is a fallacy.

 

[preslove]

"Entrapment" doesn't mean shit when drugs are involved. The drug war has been eroding civil liberties for decades. Drug warriors are nothing but parasites.

Not a whole lot. Many police departments around the country are already operating at reduced levels of staffing. MJ isn't really a cash cow in terms of seizures anyway. Going after the big boys dealing meth, cocaine and heroin is where a ton of seizure money comes into play.

I agree MJ should be legalized, but don't paint us all as "profiteering" from the war on drugs. Drugs is just ONE aspect of our job.

Uh, MJ market DWARFS every single other illegal drug combined. It also makes up the bulk of arrests and seizures.

 

[preslove]

That's like saying doctors are the benefactors of car accidents and shootings.

It's a myth that if drugs are legalized there will suddenly be tons of money available that was spent on law enforcement. The same money will be spent on the same cops... enforcing something else. You won't suddenly see a million laid off cops

Yeah, police would actually fucking investigate property crime, which in many cities has effectively been decriminalized because cops are too busy fighting the idiotic drug war.

 

[eldorado99]

Also this is a fallacy.

I think your location is accurate...

 

[JSt0rm]

I think your location is accurate...

How am I wrong?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

Your avatar is probably accurate.

 

[eldorado99]

Your avatar is probably accurate.

Yes, it is. What of it?

 

[brianmanahan]

lol at all the rage here!

anyone who uses drugs is a loser.

 

[halik]

uselses w/o pics

 

[preslove]

lol at all the rage here!

anyone who uses drugs is a loser.

Yes, Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman were losers... you cretin.

 

[brianmanahan]

Yes, Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman were losers... you cretin.

imho they both were. drugs are for unintelligent people who seek a cheap fake thrill instead of true experiences.

 

[Jaskalas]

Ohhh I feel so much safer knowing that this kid was brought to justice

Honestly, the police can go fuck themselves on this one. Such an utter waste of tax payer money. Also fuck the asinine laws that allow it to happen.

^ I second that motion.

 

[brianmanahan]

if they dont put away druggie kids before things get bad they go to far and never are able to go back. they will blow all their money on their fix, become dropouts, steal to buy more drugs, get caught, go to prison, get out and live in section 8 housing then steal/prison/steal/prison, repeat until they die.

its sad really but you gotta stop it before they are too far gone.

 

[preslove]

imho they both were.

oh i c. You're just a fucking troll.

 

[Aikouka]

Such a fine upstanding citizen with aspirations of an Air Force career should've known that selling pot is a bad idea, no matter how pretty the girl.

At least according to the article, he didn't really sell it. He gave it to her, and it sounds like she insisted on paying him for it.

JLee, while I agree that he did something stupid and illegal (whether I agree with its legality or not), I really wish people would consider being a bit more lenient on someone. Sometimes I think the punishments for crimes are simply too harsh, and I would most likely consider this an example of it. I say "likely" since the only evidence I have is the article itself.

 

[chubbyfatazn]

imho they both were. drugs are for unintelligent people who seek a cheap fake thrill instead of true experiences.

Come back when you even manage to reach 1/1000 of their intelligence and contributions to society. Or, you know, you could quit trolling...

if they dont put away druggie kids before things get bad they go to far and never are able to go back. they will blow all their money on their fix, become dropouts, steal to buy more drugs, get caught, go to prison, get out and live in section 8 housing then steal/prison/steal/prison, repeat until they die.

its sad really but you gotta stop it before they are too far gone.

OK... if they want to live that life they can. That's taking the snarky high road stance, but you'd probably be hard-pressed to find a lot of people who disagree.

Is it my money? No. Is it my time spent in prison? No. Is it my life? No. What it is is taxpayer money being improperly spent on these kind of MJ drug busts. I'm not looking to trash the police in general, but giving a guy a felony record because he sold one measly bag of pot to some bimbo isn't the right way to do it. And we don't even have a 100% factual story.

 

[Ancalagon44]

Americans get so worked up over weed. You can blame Henry J Anslinger and his industry backers for that. Look him up.

 

[Thegonagle]

if they dont put away druggie kids before things get bad they go to far and never are able to go back. they will blow all their money on their fix, become dropouts, steal to buy more drugs, get caught, go to prison, get out and live in section 8 housing then steal/prison/steal/prison, repeat until they die.

And it all starts with that first toke off a marijuana pipe. It's madness. Reefer Madness, if you will...