Teen dies from eating delicious cookie

Krazy4Real

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last words: "Ah, the hell with it, I'm sure it's fine,"
I don't get this. Why they hell would he eat a cookie if he didn't know what was in it. Why the hell wouldn't the mom try the 2 month exprired epi pen? It's not like it was 2 years expired. Sad story, but seriously full of facepalms.
 

Childs

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I don't get this. Why they hell would he eat a cookie if he didn't know what was in it. Why the hell wouldn't the mom try the 2 month exprired epi pen? It's not like it was 2 years expired. Sad story, but seriously full of facepalms.

She had one in her cupboard but it had expired two months earlier. First responders told her over the phone that she shouldn't use it.

I realize being a first responder is a tough job, but if they are not 100% sure about something you would think they would call someone and find out.
 

BoomerD

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You'd think people who KNOW they have nut allergies would be extremely careful about what they eat...:rolleyes:
 

wirednuts

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wow, sad story but i agree. every turn in the story was for the worse. in a general way, that was just bad luck. in a specific way, just one of so many things would have prevented death.
 

Krazy4Real

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I realize being a first responder is a tough job, but if they are not 100% sure about something you would think they would call someone and find out.

There's not a lot of time. They probably couldn't get ahold of the doctor. Even the doctor said though that he's not sure if it would have helped, but that she should have used it.

Because he was 19.
He was careful his entire life though, this event doesn't make any sense.
 

wirednuts

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You'd think people who KNOW they have nut allergies would be extremely careful about what they eat...:rolleyes:

he was careful. read the story. he just said "fuck it" one time. even though he ate what he ate, he shouldnt have died.
 

KaOTiK

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The mom says she is surprised people can die to nut allergies. Really? The whole you can't breath thing didn't tip her off and no doctor told her it isn't life threatening...
 

wirednuts

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about the expired pen, my instinct would be to use it. if it was going to hurt me because it was expired, i would have been highly warned of such a thing when i was prescribed it.
 

wirednuts

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The mom says she is surprised people can die to nut allergies. Really? The whole you can't breath thing didn't tip her off and no doctor told her it isn't life threatening...

this is what doesnt make any sense at all. the kid had the allergies since he was 8. they were very aware of all the things to do, but nobody didnt tell her death could be a result? i wonder if she wasnt told because she didnt want to hear it, or if they just thought it was inherit to the idea of choking....
 

purbeast0

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i had eaten macadamia nuts my whole life no problem. in college i ate the white chocolate macadamia nut cookies from 7-11 all the time. then one night i got them and my face and throat swelled up. had never happened before and it scared the shit out of me. i have asthma and it made my chest get tight too so i used my inhaler and thought that would fix everything. this was like at 2am in the morning too.

looking back i probably shoulda gone to the ER but i just waited it out and when i woke up the next day it had gone down and was going down.

from then on i've never eaten macadamia nuts again. it's so odd that it came out of nowhere.
 

Childs

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There's not a lot of time. They probably couldn't get ahold of the doctor. Even the doctor said though that he's not sure if it would have helped, but that she should have used it.

I think he said that to spare her feelings and perhaps deflect blame from the first responders. I have no idea how this works, but first responders should have a hotline to whoever it is they need to get a hold of to get the information they need.

I'm no doctor, but I assume a epi-pen's effectiveness is greater the sooner the injection is given. They didnt say how long it took the ex fire chief to get his epi-pen, but the time it took could have been the difference between living and dying. Expiration dates on non food items are generally for inventory control, not efficacy.
 

lxskllr

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And if it was a choice between death and expired epi pen, I would've chose epi pen.

This is what happens when the government holds your hand for too long, and absolves everyone from personal responsibility. It creates non-thinking drones that can't operate without guidance from "authority".
 

shortylickens

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This is what happens when the government holds your hand for too long, and absolves everyone from personal responsibility. It creates non-thinking drones that can't operate without guidance from "authority".

Agreed but its crass to say such things right now.
 

tcsenter

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Funny, I was just commenting on this article someone posted to Facebook with all the same complaints. Don't use an Epi-Pen that is a few months expired, when it was the only one she had at the time? Terrible advice. And how could the mother "not know" he could die from nut allergy, which brought her son to the ER at least once before, and strongly urged to carry an Epi-Pen with him at all times? What did she think all that meant...that a nut allergy would only make him all itchy? You don't need an Epi-Pen for itchy! I mean, it wasn't her fault, she didn't give him the cookie but just her claim that she didn't know his allergy was severe enough to kill him. Maybe I'm being unfair and she is just in shock or something.
 

wirednuts

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from then on i've never eaten macadamia nuts again. it's so odd that it came out of nowhere.

im always worried of that happening to me... allergy out of nowhere. well, it sort of did i guess... i got chrons when i was 20 and its been fucking with me ever since. even the last two weeks, im having a flare up and i havent really had any problems in 2 years. not like this, this is full on. i swear drinking water right now causes my lower intestines to become irritated...
 

OverVolt

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Within minutes the teen was home; it was about 6:30 that evening, and he was doubled over and turning black and blue, his mother said. "I can't breathe, I can't breathe," he had said. He hadn't unpacked yet so his mom couldn't find his Epi-Pen -- an epinephrine autoinjector. She had one in her cupboard but it had expired two months earlier. First responders told her over the phone that she shouldn't use it.

I gasped when I read that. That is horrible. He needed the epi-pen STAT. I would have used the expired one, and then the neighbors one.Only 2 months expired get real. I'm pretty sure it would have saved his life.
 

wirednuts

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I gasped when I read that. That is horrible. He needed the epi-pen STAT. I would have used the expired one, and then the neighbors one.Only 2 months expired get real. I'm pretty sure it would have saved his life.

yeah. honestly she might take some legal action because that advice is just bullshit. i mean, technically im sure it will keep the first responder out of any trouble, but it killed a kid.