Ted Cruz Chastises Beto O’Rourke For F-Bombs, But Only Makes Him Seem Cooler

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Amused

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Nope. You thought you were clever citing an article I already linked and now you have to backtrack.

I summarized it, so yes

It is a strong indicator of his father’s abuse of power, which would explain the slap on the wrist for two felonies that would have otherwise been more severe in terms of consequences.

No, are you?

A 3rd party is what brought it to light and the Stock Act was crystal clear in its intent.

I’ve not quoted any right wing sources or narratives. The snopes article speaks for itself.

Why yes, it does. Did you even fucking READ IT???

Because it clearly says this:

The furniture store: Beto was clearly and demonstrably not involved in the running of that business. Irrelevant.

His dad's car: Beto was 10 years old. Irrelevant.

Insider trading: No, it wasn't. He self reported an ethics violation prohibiting participation in IPOs. He didn't know about the ethics rule and made amends as soon as he found out. It isn't even classified as "insider trading" by ANYONE outside of right-wing propaganda.

The self pwnage in this conversation is STILL amazing.
 

Amused

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My concern was proven correct.

This is so fucking laughable. Even the Snopes page you THINK supports you, actually DOESN'T if you took the time to read it fully. It shows just how desperately the GOP is trying to pin anything they can on this guy, even something his father did when he was fucking 10 years old.

And calling the other "insider trading" exposes you fully. NO ONE, not even the ethics committee called it that. That's a right-wing propaganda creation. Look at you bleat it like a good little sheep.

Dude, this is pathetic at this point.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Why yes, it does. Did you even fucking READ IT???

Because it clearly says this:

The furniture store: Beto was clearly and demonstrably not involved in the running of that business. Irrelevant.

His dad's car: Beto was 10 years old. Irrelevant.

Insider trading: No, it wasn't. He self reported an ethics violation prohibiting participation in IPOs. He didn't know about the ethics rule and made amends as soon as he found out. It isn't even classified as "insider trading" by ANYONE outside of right-wing propaganda.

The self pwnage in this conversation is STILL amazing.
Yes I read the part at the top of the article that rated the meme as mixed in terms of accuracy. You are asserting conclusions not supported by the article. The only part of the meme classified as false is his alleged changing his name from Robert to Beto for political reasons, which is demonstrably false...the only one classified as false I might add.

I wouldn’t call your doubling down pathetic. More curious and entertaining.
 

brycejones

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Yes I read the part at the top of the article that rated the meme as mixed in terms of accuracy. You are asserting conclusions not supported by the article. The only part of the meme classified as false is his alleged changing his name from Robert to Beto for political reasons, which is demonstrably false...the only one classified as false I might add.

Do you still believe he committed insider trading?
 

Amused

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Yes I read the part at the top of the article that rated the meme as mixed in terms of accuracy. You are asserting conclusions not supported by the article. The only part of the meme classified as false is his alleged changing his name from Robert to Beto for political reasons, which is demonstrably false...the only one classified as false I might add.

Whoa.

So you haven't actually READ the page, and each individual item, have you???

OMFG.

Maybe you should do that? Just an idea.

Here is a hint: Just because something is factually true doesn't mean it is factually relevant. Like the dad's car when he was 10 FUCKING YEARS OLD. Yet the meme leaves out Beto's age in an attempt to make it look like his dad was covering up Beto's drugs.

It also demonstrably disproves the ethics violation was "insider trading." So while a stock bases ethics violation occurred, it was NOT "insider trading" and he self reported as soon as he found out.

The Snopes article also demonstrably proves he had no involvement with the furniture store.

So while the furniture store did violate tax laws, he had nothing to do with it. Irrelevant.

Keep reaching.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Do you still believe he committed insider trading?
I believe he should have known better and only reported it once a 3rd party made him aware of it. I don’t buy his excuse that he didn’t see the 11/5 memo.

I would expect any member of Congress to be highly energized to be in compliance with a well publicized law focused on House ethics as it relates to Wall Street, especially one championed strongly by Obama.
 

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Whoa.

So you haven't actually READ the page, and each individual item, have you???

OMFG.

Maybe you should do that? Just an idea.

You need to invite him over to your "This is disgusting!" thread...
 

Starbuck1975

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Whoa.

So you haven't actually READ the page, and each individual item, have you???

OMFG.

Maybe you should do that? Just an idea.
I did and summarized the entire article earlier in the thread. Read the whole thread double down and then get back to me.

I’ll help you. Post 59
 

Amused

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I did and summarized the entire article earlier in the thread. Read the whole thread double down and then get back to me.

Liar. Had you actually read the Snopes page you would have never called it "insider trading" again, because that term does not apply in any way, shape or form.

You would have also known he was 10 when the incident with his dad's car occurred and therefore is utterly irrelevant. You didn't.

You keep owning yourself here.
 

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The DUI or burglary in and of themselves indicate nothing. There is however a pattern of red flags that indicate something less than ethical. Given that the whole narrative against Trump is one that centers around ethics, I find it curious that Democrats would nominate a candidate with questionable and exploitable baggage.

Basically every candidate has some sort of 'questionable and exploitable baggage'. There's very, very few people in this world with nothing in their past that could be exploited.

Based on what I've seen so far he seems fine. If evidence came out that he knowingly tried to trade on his congressional knowledge that would certainly change my opinion but otherwise he seems fine.
 
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Liar. Had you actually read the Snopes page you would have never called it "insider trading" again, because that term does not apply in any way, shape or form.

You would have also known he was 10 when the incident with his dad's car occurred and therefore is utterly irrelevant. You didn't.

You keep owning yourself here.
Not a liar double down. Read the whole thread. The only person owned here is you for knee jerking.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Basically every candidate has some sort of 'questionable and exploitable baggage'. There's very, very few people in this world with nothing in their past that could be exploited.

Based on what I've seen so far he seems fine. If evidence came out that he knowingly tried to trade on his congressional knowledge that would certainly change my opinion but otherwise he seems fine.
Well yes and no. He is a candidate for Senate, which raises his profile, but also a sitting member of Congress. The President of his party made House ethics a focus area of his administration, something I strongly supported Obama over. Kind of undermines the point if sitting members of Congress “didn’t see the memo”.
 

senseamp

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Well yes and no. He is a candidate for Senate, which raises his profile, but also a sitting member of Congress. The President of his party made House ethics a focus area of his administration, something I strongly supported Obama over. Kind of undermines the point if sitting members of Congress “didn’t see the memo”.
Cruz is going to have Trump campaigning for him, so the whole family values horseshit is going to fly out of the window.
 

Starbuck1975

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Cruz is going to have Trump campaigning for him, so the whole family values horseshit is going to fly out of the window.
As pointed out earlier in the thread, in Cruz you have the choice of a spineless, pseudo-libertarian hypocrite who at this point is willing to swallow his pride and cozy up to Trump just to retain his seat.

The GOP has sacrificed all claims as the party of any values.
 

senseamp

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I don't understand why Texas Republicans are working so hard to make Beto look like a rock star bad boy.
 
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notoriously dainty texans just faint at the thought of curse words

oh, and i note this guy is coming to rally for ol' tough as toilet paper:

 

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He needs to do this again to be cool, reminds me of Dukakis in the tank


We all know Ted did not buy that bacon
He looks stupid in the completely buttoned shirt at the gun range
The pained look he has eating that tiny bit of bacon from the gun
Can we make fun of him for calling the gun a machine gun? We usually make fun of reporters for doing that.
He wouldn't even touch the bacon, had a peon wrap it for him. Beto would do better!

I donated to him already, trying to give and spread my contributions a bit more this year. I'm in Ma so TX and FL and of course the dude running against nunes got a dinner or two from me.
 

Paratus

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Stolen from Twitter.


Cruz
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Beto
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Ashley Feinberg
here’s what ted cruz and beto o’rourke were doing to unwind during roughly the same period


So Beto was a bassist, the guy that every band needs that keeps the band together and makes the other guys better.
 

dainthomas

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Stolen from Twitter.


Cruz
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Beto
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Ashley Feinberg
here’s what ted cruz and beto o’rourke were doing to unwind during roughly the same period


So Beto was a bassist, the guy that every band needs that keeps the band together and makes the other guys better.

God, Cruz looks like the David Spade character in that PCU movie. Young Republican types are without a doubt the most annoying group on any campus. There's something mentally wrong with a twenty year old who fantasizes about cutting Medicaid and capital gains taxes.
 

SMOGZINN

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As a Texan that will be voting for Beto here is my thinking; if the Christian Devil turned out to be real and ran against Cruz I would have to look at their platforms really carefully to decide who was the greater evil. Between Beto and Cruz it is not even a contest.