[techpowerup]piledriver emerges.. vishera details show promise:quad channel ddr3, HTA

[Ajay]

BS . If AMD had an advantage here . They would be gaining server market share . But their not . AMD is still losing server market share period.

I should have said AMD's "only advantage" to be more clear. Obviously, they are not gaining market share.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm interested in a 10-core AM3+ Piledriver CPU. Hopefully, AMD can tweak the IPC to something better than Bulldozer, at the minimum, as good as Phenom II was/is.

It would be a sad, sad, day if my X6 is as fast as a 10-core Piledriver.

 

[denev2004]

What is the BMI and TMB means?

 

[Chiropteran]

What is the BMI and TMB means?

BMI= body mass index
TMB= temporary motherboard

 

[IntelUser2000]

What is the BMI and TMB means?

BMI=Bit Manipulation Instructions
TMB=Trailing Bit Manipulation Instructions

They come in use for hashing, to give an example.

 

[IntelUser2000]

http://www.techpowerup.com/159062/AMD-Vishera-Packs-Quad-Channel-DDR3-IMC-G34-En-Route-Desktop-.html

Interlagos doesn't have 2-channels...

I bet the maximum supported is 4(like on a server part), since that would raise motherboard costs by a lot. That's also why it doesn't make sense on an APU which is designed for all-out low cost, simply speaking.

 

[exar333]

Well, it'll take 2.3 GHz DDR3 quad channel to pull equal to 1.15 GHz GDDR5 in terms of memory bandwidth... But it will be close. You're certainly right that this is a LOT more powerful than typical discrete GPU options you see on your average low end Dell (usually 5570 or something like that.)

It's great for teenagers who are using their parent's computer and have no option for discrete. It's great for laptops. For the rest of us it's lame.

It'll be a while before we see 6870 level graphics in an IGP though. You need 8 channel DDR3 to even come close to the bandwidth. I don't really see that happening. We need DDR4 or DDR5 on the desktop before we start seeing that level of memory bandwidth on the desktop. In the meantime, it'll get stalled somewhere between a 5770 and 6850.

Really, that's not a bad place for IGP to be stalled though, you can play at 1920x with a GPU that powerful. Not with MSAA and ultra settings, but it's powerful enough to play real games at 1080p with much better visual quality than a console.



You realize they were moving as many as they could make for all of last year, right? They are already "really moving units" and they stopped making 45nm CPUs as a result, so they could increase APU volume. APUs have been a good move for AMD, even though they are not really at all exciting to the kinds of people who read these forums.

I was 12 years old and upgraded my parents (family's) video card so I could game more. They never noticed.

 

[exar333]

BS . If AMD had an advantage here . They would be gaining server market share . But their not . AMD is still losing server market share period.

True, although AMD has very little left to lose anymore. That's an honest answer, not hyberbole.

 

[smartpatrol]

If they make some improvements in IPC and power consumption, Piledriver could end up being a decent CPU. Especially for servers.

It wouldn't be the first time they've taken a lousy product and evolved it into something worthwhile. See 2900XT->HD3870->HD4870 or Phenom->Phenom II.

 

[piesquared]

BS . If AMD had an advantage here . They would be gaining server market share . But their not . AMD is still losing server market share period.

Losing marketshare with a superior product? That sounds familiar, but Interlagos and Valencia were released merely 2 months ago...

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If they make some improvements in IPC and power consumption, Piledriver could end up being a decent CPU. Especially for servers.

It wouldn't be the first time they've taken a lousy product and evolved it into something worthwhile. See 2900XT->HD3870->HD4870 or Phenom->Phenom II.

What if some Piledriver based products connect directly via PCIE 3 rather than HT.

 

[ed29a]

Give it a rest with the constant AMD bashing.

Zambezi sucks

Old, but still relevant:
Stop putting more crappy, slow, power-sucking cores on your consumer CPUs and maybe you'll get somewhere, AMD.

You should listen to your own advice.