[Techpowerup] : Noctua presents NF-A12x25 120mm Fan, 140mm Adaptor and redux line NF-P12

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Noctua today presented its much-anticipated next-generation 120x25mm A-series fan and the complementary NA-SFMA1 adaptors that allow it to be used on 140mm based watercoolers. The new NF-A12x25 is the first fan made of Noctua's novel Sterrox LCP material and integrates the company's latest innovations in aerodynamic engineering in order to achieve an unprecedented level of quiet cooling performance. While the NF-A12x25 becomes the new flagship model in the 120mm range, the classic NF-P12 will be reissued in the streamlined, more affordable redux line.

"The NF-A12x25 is our most advanced fan today. We've spent more than 4.5 years developing it and it's been easily the most thorny, intricate development project we've completed so far," explains Lars Strömbäck (Noctua CTO):"In order to achieve our goal of surpassing our renowned NF-F12 and NF-S12A, we went for a completely different approach and had to use a tip clearance of only 0.5mm, which poses various new difficulties in manufacturing."

Whereas the award-winning NF-F12 and NF-S12A are specialised solutions that are either optimised for maximum static pressure or maximum airflow, the new NF-A12x25 follows the approach of Noctua's A-series in being a true all-rounder that yields superb results in all types of usage, regardless of whether it's in low-impedance, airflow-oriented applications such as case cooling, or high-impedance, pressure-demanding scenarios such as on heatsinks and watercooling radiators. In practice, the NF-A12x25 not only outperforms the renowned NF-F12 on 120mm based watercooling radiators, but combined with the new, optional NA-SFMA1 adaptor frames, it also offers better efficiency than many 140mm fans on 140mm based systems.

One of the cornerstones of the NF-A12x25's next-generation performance is its record tight tip clearance (distance between the blade tips and the inside of the frame) of only 0.5mm. This highly ambitious design helps the NF-A12x25 to work more efficiently against back pressure, such as on heatsinks or radiators, by reducing leak flows through the gap between impeller and frame. Manufacturing a fan with such a small tip clearance is extremely delicate and was only made possible by Noctua's new Sterrox liquid-crystal polymer (LCP) material, which features extreme tensile strength, an exceptionally low thermal expansion coefficient and excellent dimensional stability.

"We have never put so much research and effort into a single fan so far, both on the level of fine-tuning the aerodynamic construction and on the level of materials and manufacturing," says Roland Mossig (Noctua CEO): "Many challenges had to be overcome, but now we're proud with the end result and confident that the NF-A12x25 will become a new benchmark for premium-quality quiet 120mm fans."

The NF-A12x25 will be available in a 4-pin PWM version for automatic speed control, 3-pin FLX version with Low-Noise Adaptors for three different speed settings as well as a near-silent 3-pin ULN (Ultra-Low-Noise) version. As the NF-A12x25 becomes the new flagship model in Noctua's 120mm range, the classic NF-P12 moves to the streamlined, more affordable redux line. It will henceforth be available in 1700 and 1300rpm 4-pin PWM versions as well as 1300 and 900rpm 3-pin versions.

Link to the article: https://www.techpowerup.com/243821/...120mm-fan-140mm-adaptor-and-redux-line-nf-p12

Most enthusiasts will be attracted to the NF-A12, but I rejoice their decision of adding P12 into their Redux line because finally Redux has pressure-optimised 12 cm fan after years had to make do with only S12B fan. I purchased S12B earlier this year for my tower HSF, but finally replaced it with the more powerful F12-3000rpm from IPPC line. I really wish they released this P12 Redux earlier so I didn't have to buy their costlier IPPC model which priced closely to their normal, beige-coloured, fans.
 

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Seems like it will indeed be a really nice 120mm fan. The PWM version has a max of 2000 RPM at only 22.6 dBA, with a static pressure rating of 2.34 mm.

https://noctua.at/en/nf-a12x25-pwm

It should really be a great heatsink cooler. I might just have to buy one to test it out. :)
 

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It won't beat your F12 as it has lower static pressure and it also has lesser airflow than S12A. So actually, I don't know what's the point of this new A12x25
 

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It won't beat your F12 as it has lower static pressure and it also has lesser airflow than S12A. So actually, I don't know what's the point of this new A12x25

It actually has a lot more static pressure than my NF-A15 PWM, which at its highest is 1.51. However, it also has a little less airflow (115.5 vs 102.1).
 

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It actually has a lot more static pressure than my NF-A15 PWM, which at its highest is 1.51. However, it also has a little less airflow (115.5 vs 102.1).
Compared to Noctua's 140mm offerings, A12 is indeed offering better overall performance. That's why they claimed that the new A12, I quote, "offers better efficiency than many 140mm fans on 140mm based systems."
 

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Compared to Noctua's 140mm offerings, A12 is indeed offering better overall performance. That's why they claimed that the new A12, I quote, "offers better efficiency than many 140mm fans on 140mm based systems."

Yeah, that's what caught my eye. My fan has 120mm mounting holes, so it should work great on my NH-U14S.
 

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Yeah, that's what caught my eye. My fan has 120mm mounting holes, so it should work great on my NH-U14S.
It's $30 though. Are you okay with that? F12-2000rpm IPPC can be had for less than that and it has superior airflow and static pressure although it's 5dB noisier than A12x25.
 

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It's $30 though. Are you okay with that? F12-2000rpm IPPC can be had for less than that and it has superior airflow and static pressure although it's 5dB noisier than A12x25.

$30?

What can I say besides I like to live dangerously. It's just the burden I have to bear with being a PC enthusiast ;)
 

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Noctua had a few of the PWM versions on their Amazon storefront, so I pulled the trigger on one, so I should get it sometime next week.

I generally don't pay that much for a fan ($22 has been the previous high I have spent on a fan), but I only did it this one time for "science"! ;)
 
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F12 IPPC industrial is still the greatest Noctua heat sink fan!

I generally don't pay that much for a fan ($22 has been the previous high I have spent on a fan)

Sigh....
I think ive bought about 300 dollars in san aces for my builds at one point in time.

And i easily spent over 200 on Nidac Gentle Typhoons on a single build. :\
 

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Noctua had a few of the PWM versions on their Amazon storefront, so I pulled the trigger on one, so I should get it sometime next week.

I generally don't pay that much for a fan ($22 has been the previous high I have spent on a fan), but I only did it this one time for "science"! ;)

I think Noctua's storefront on Amazon were being a little bit of what I call "sneaky snakes" on the availability of this fan. When I placed my order yesterday, it showed only 4 were in stock with Prime Shipping. So after I ordered one, it went down to 3, with a delivery day of Wednesday (5 days).

I never got an shipping notification, so I kind of looked at it throughout the day, and the stock would go back up to like 6, and then down to 2, and it kept changing like this the rest of the day. Today it still hadn't shipped, and I noticed they no longer have the limited quantity amounts, and just said in stock with free Prime Delivery on Monday (two days sooner than my first order). I ended up cancelling my first order, and placing a new one so it would come on Monday.

So I will report back in a few days on how it performs (which will be related to my CPU temperature average and high temp during Folding@Home).
 

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OK, I gotta admit this is a pretty dang good fan. I removed my NF-A15 and installed the new NF-A12x25 (along with removing the stock anti-vibration pads, and putting on the included gasket which is supposed to help with air loss). I might switch it out for the regular corner anti vibration-pads to see if they help or hurt the overall performance on a CPU heatsink. The instructions say the gasket is for radiators, but I was curious. I had to install an over-the-range microwave yesterday, so it's not so easy picking up this very heavy case too many times right now. :eek:

The first run I set the PWM to start at 1100 RPM before climbing with higher temps, and this thing is crazy quiet for a 120mm fan spinning at that rate. I couldn't hear it at all. While running Folding@Home for 20 minutes, it has pretty much kept my temps in the 37c - 47c range, with an occasional jump to 52c -53c . With the NH-A15, I was maxing out around 55c - 57c with certain loads, and my overall range was about 38c to 57c on the CPU monitor software.

The CPU temperature monitor line is a lot smoother (not near the range with all the ups and downs as the CPU utilization changes). Cranking up the PWM rate to start at the 1200 RPM is also very quiet, and shaves a couple degrees Celsius off, and I still cannot here it over my 140mm case fans. I can start to notice it once it's in the 1350 - 1400 RPM range a little bit, but it's still quiet enough for me at that point. I personally don't think I would run these over 1300 RPM to maintain my system being quiet. The max RPM is 2000 at 22.1 dBA. At 1400 RPM, the dBA should be around 15-16 dBA or so.
 
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I didn't expect a hands-on / review as fast as this, thanks UsandThem.
(along with removing the stock anti-vibration pads, and putting on the included gasket which is supposed to help with air loss). I might switch it out for the regular corner anti vibration-pads to see if they help or hurt the overall performance on a CPU heatsink. The instructions say the gasket is for radiators, but I was curious.
This gasket thing, is this (NA-SFMA1) what you mean? If it's included in the NF-A12 package, then it will justify (a bit) the price hike.

Oh, I also found performance comparison from Noctua's page.
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I didn't expect a hands-on / review as fast as this, thanks UsandThem.

This gasket thing, is this (NA-SFMA1) what you mean? If it's included in the NF-A12 package, then it will justify (a bit) the price hike.

No, this adapter is model NA-AVG1

There are apprently no images of it loaded onto the internet yet (I couldn't find any), but it shows it in the manual.

https://noctua.at/media/blfa_files/manual/noctua_nf_a12x25_pwm_manual_en.pdf

It's basically the four stock corner anti-vibration pieces, however the optional gasket is thinner than they are, and they are all connected together. If you look at the first page of the manual, it shows removing the 4 standard corner anti-vibration pads, and replacing it with the other picture on that page. It's a one piece rubber gasket that covers the one side of the fan.
 

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I've left my PC running Folding@Home for the last four hours or so, and here's an hour's worth of my CPU temperature range running the fan at 1200 RPM:

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No, this adapter is model NA-AVG1

There are apprently no images of it loaded onto the internet yet (I couldn't find any), but it shows it in the manual.
Conceptually, it looks useful to further reduce vibration and also act a bit like gasket to seal the gap between fan and heatsink / radiator.
I think I'll buy one if they sell it separately.

Also, the adapter you thought it might be wasn't included in the package. It's apparently an additional thing to buy if you need a 140mm to 120mm adapter:

https://www.amazon.com/noctua-NA-SFMA1-mounting-watercooling-radiators/dp/B07CCGS9V2
Yes, that's why I said if it included in A12 package, that would be a good deal for 140/280/420mm radiator users.
 

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Yes, that's why I said if it included in A12 package, that would be a good deal for 140/280/420mm radiator users.

Nope, unfortunately not included in the retail fan package. I know this cooler is pretty pricey (even more so than their other fans), but I think they are banking on selling a ton of them at that higher profit margin once sites/people start reviewing them. I am really impressed with the performance of this quiet 120mm fan.

If I hadn't already bought two of the Phanteks 140mm case fans, I honestly probably would have grabbed a couple more. But I've got my case exactly where I wanted it at noise/performance wise, so I just really don't need any more fans for many years at this point.
 
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If anyone comes across this thread and is curious what the 120mm fan looks like on the NH-U14S, well here you go:

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I also found that using the included rubber gasket with heatsinks (the manual simply mentions radiators) gives you the best performance. I was using the standard anti-vibration corner pieces that come on Noctua fans in the picture above.

Here is the included gasket (NA-AVG1):

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If anyone comes across this thread and is curious what the 120mm fan looks like on the NH-U14S, well here you go:
I'm curious, and grateful for these photos.
Quite funny that bigger fan which was able to cover the whole heatsink performed worse than smaller fan.
 

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I'm curious, and grateful for these photos.
Quite funny that bigger fan which was able to cover the whole heatsink performed worse than smaller fan.

Yeah, I was surprised by that as well. The NF-A15 PWM is a really good fan, but from what I have seen from most consumer level 140mm fans, they just can't match the static pressure of 120mm fans. With the new NF-A12x25, that fan has a crazy amount of airflow/static pressure. It easily wins in the static pressure area, and pretty much matches it in the airflow department.

While there are other very noisy 120mm fans that will have more (like Delta and servers oriented fans), for such a quiet fan to be able to do that, is impressive. I just wonder since Noctua spent 4 years and a lot of money to develop their new fan, if they will eventually offer other sizes with the same tech as the 120mm fan (maybe a 140mm?).