Technobuffalo claims the One is the best smartphone yet

postmortemIA

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who cares, they will release another "best" smartphone within 6 months and drop support for existing one. fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice..
 

Ravynmagi

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who cares, they will release another "best" smartphone within 6 months and drop support for existing one. fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice..

I never owned an HTC. But this kinda feels like what happens with any Android phone that isn't a Nexus.
 

TuxDave

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I never owned an HTC. But this kinda feels like what happens with any Android phone that isn't a Nexus.

I think Samsung realized the dependency on Google Android releases. If Android users are depending on Google to realize new fun/innovative goodies for their phone, they'll go to Nexus for the (mostly) guaranteed updates. But if Samsung can become a competitive software group and deliver goodies that everyone wants, then the tide shifts towards "I need to get a Samsung phone to get all the cool stuff".

I don't know if HTC has the manpower to deliver the same and therefore they get chained to Android updates for features and all they can do is continue porting the HTC sense for the usability.

At least that's how I see things.
 

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Yes, but all AT members carry at least 4 extra batteries with them and a 64 GB SD card to watch 1080P movies on their 4 inch screen so it is considered rubbish here.
 

ChronoReverse

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What. All most people wanted was great battery life and no 16GB model (32gb standard and maybe even a premium 128gb model).

Seriously, HTC put a sealed battery in their larger and heavier phone that has LESS capacity than the competitor with a removeable one (which has built in wireless charging to boot).
 
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ImDonly1

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What. All most people wanted was great battery life and no 16GB model.

Seriously, HTC put a sealed battery in their larger and heavier phone that has LESS capacity than the competitor with a removeable one.

Their competitor uses all plastic to get is as light as possible, while HTC uses all aluminum for best build quality.

I do wonder why HTC can't fit at least a 2,600 mAh battery in their phone?
 

poofyhairguy

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Yes, but all AT members carry at least 4 extra batteries with them and a 64 GB SD card to watch 1080P movies on their 4 inch screen so it is considered rubbish here.

More like 4 32gb MicroSD cards and an extra extended battery but you got the idea!
 

Bateluer

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I don't know if HTC has the manpower to deliver the same and therefore they get chained to Android updates for features and all they can do is continue porting the HTC sense for the usability.

At least that's how I see things.

They need to stop wasting money and effort developing Sense. In every review of nearly all HTC devices, particularly the One X/S and One, the reviewer loves the hardware, the camera, etc, but despises Sense.

But, with the CM team not developing for the GS4, I'll bet the One may be getting some dev love.
 

ImDonly1

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They need to stop wasting money and effort developing Sense. In every review of nearly all HTC devices, particularly the One X/S and One, the reviewer loves the hardware, the camera, etc, but despises Sense.

But, with the CM team not developing for the GS4, I'll bet the One may be getting some dev love.

https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts

Let’s start with the simplest form of this: CyanogenMod does not pre-announce support or lack of support for devices. Ever. Even for the Nexus 4, we did not announce support until a nightly build was available. Further, any announcement regarding the ‘dropping’ of device support will be communicated via this Google+ page, Twitter, Facebook, our blog, or a combination of those; it will not be something buried in a forum post.

This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.

As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail.

-The CyanogenMod Team
 

ChronoReverse

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The Qualcomm version of the GS4 will definitely be supported if history is anything to go by. TeamHacksung didn't do the CM for the Snapdragon GS3 anyway, only the Exynos one.
 
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They need to stop wasting money and effort developing Sense. In every review of nearly all HTC devices, particularly the One X/S and One, the reviewer loves the hardware, the camera, etc, but despises Sense.

But, with the CM team not developing for the GS4, I'll bet the One may be getting some dev love.

I dunno. Quite honestly TouchWiz was loved because it wasn't bloated. However, there's a lot of bloat apps, and the look of TouchWiz is horrendous. Still looks like it did in 2.3. In that sense, Sense has always looked better, but was bloated. I'd argue that Sense has gotten a lot better since the HTC Sensation. They really stepped it up with the One X, and it's progressively getting better.
 

WelshBloke

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I dunno. Quite honestly TouchWiz was loved because it wasn't bloated. However, there's a lot of bloat apps, and the look of TouchWiz is horrendous. Still looks like it did in 2.3. In that sense, Sense has always looked better, but was bloated. I'd argue that Sense has gotten a lot better since the HTC Sensation. They really stepped it up with the One X, and it's progressively getting better.

Do you mean the icons or the launcher by this. Just curious as I see this said now and again.

The main criticism of Touchwiz seems to be the icons and/or the launcher and the extra/bloat Samsung apps pre installed.

The launcher and icons are easily changed just by going to the market.

Some of the Samsung apps take a bit more work (need root to uninstall) but if you're going to install a custom ROM its not that much work.

I used to see the point in AOSP ROMs in the days of the HTC Desire. That phone was transformed by the Oxygen ROM, but nowadays I just feel that CM is a bit irrelevant on newish phones. Modified stock ROMs generally are a lot more stable and perform better. The only point I can see for hacked AOSP ROMs is if your too impatient for a stable manufacturer ROM.
 

s44

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This would be a more impressive claim if it were *after* the S4 release... which, at this point, may happen before the actual One release.
 

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What. All most people wanted was great battery life and no 16GB model (32gb standard and maybe even a premium 128gb model).

Seriously, HTC put a sealed battery in their larger and heavier phone that has LESS capacity than the competitor with a removeable one (which has built in wireless charging to boot).

quick point on your dig at HTC, larger and heavier than REALLY thin and REALLY light is still REALLY thin and REALLY light.


It is a stupid critique for a phone on why one is better or worse. It really is, and someone needs to disabuse people of this notion that it's a compelling argument against anything.

There is such a thing as diminishing returns when it comes to thinness and lightness for mobile devices. The HTC one is not a chunky phone. Period. Nor is it a heavy phone.

Would you buy a corolla over a mazda 3 if the corolla was lighter? Is that REALLY going to sway you in a meaningful way one way or the other? Please say no, because that is a useless metric unless the differences are radical.
 

ChronoReverse

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It's a compelling argument when you're getting inferior battery.

What you're saying is true but is entirely orthogonal. The usual claims about sealed batteries is that it lets them make the phone thinner/lighter or have a larger battery. This is true of Motorola/Apple.

But if you're going to seal the battery without any of the benefits, then you're doing it wrong.
 

s44

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Would you buy a corolla over a mazda 3 if the corolla was lighter? Is that REALLY going to sway you in a meaningful way one way or the other? Please say no, because that is a useless metric unless the differences are radical.
Eh?

Perhaps things are different where you are, but where I'm from the cars carry you, not vice versa.
 

dlock13

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One thing I missed from apparently everyone's interactions with the device is.....

Does it have wireless charging?
 

vshah

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It's a compelling argument when you're getting inferior battery.

What you're saying is true but is entirely orthogonal. The usual claims about sealed batteries is that it lets them make the phone thinner/lighter or have a larger battery. This is true of Motorola/Apple.

But if you're going to seal the battery without any of the benefits, then you're doing it wrong.

the benefits in this case are a higher quality metal build.
 

dougp

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The One is an absolutely beautiful phone - it's probably the only phone I'd be willing to trade my Note 2 for. The one thing that concerns me though is the locked bootloader ...
 

ChronoReverse

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the benefits in this case are a higher quality metal build.
Perhaps but my ideal case is the kevlar backing style Motorola uses (followed by the polycarbonate case style of the One XL that I own right now). Besides, even a metal body doesn't preclude having a large battery.
 
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darkewaffle

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That means small joys, like enjoying the cool touch of metal when you pick up the phone to turn your alarm off in the morning.

God that sounds awful lol. I like the feel of a rugged plastic/rubber/something that is not metal so much more. It wouldn't stop me from buying a phone but I don't see "it feels like metal" as a 'pro' at all.