Tech industry wage suppression scandal is *WAY* worse than initially thought

[xj0hnx]

BWAHAHAHA Reality penetrated Phokus's sphincter.

 

[OverVolt]

Oi the stupid. Stress makes you dumber. News articles make you dumber. Smartphones make you dumber. This is like all of those, mixed together.

 

[ch33zw1z]

This is a real issue, but once again it is not partisan related. Repubs and Dems leaders are laughing their way to the bank while their voters squabble about who's right and wrong. News flash, it's us for continuing to vote for corrupt officials who "get theirs" and allow companies to screw over their employees to create increasingly lucrative executive positions.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Yes, both parties are beholden to corporations because of that magic pixy dust they spray during campaigns (money).

But it is absolutely disingenuous to argue that Democrats and Republicans behave the same toward these corporations.

Outside of this thread Democrats would be known as the "anti- Business" party, but for the purposes of this thread you guys have somehow morphed the Republicans and Democrats to loving businesses equally. Hilarious. Everything isn't black and white

If most Democrats had their way, there would be more regulations and oversight on Corporations. Would any Republican say that?

You mean Democrats like Steve Jobs and Eric Schmidt? The OP posts an article and blames libertarians and conservatives for kissing "evil" CEO's asses and letting them get away with unfair labor practices. The posted article, however, lists "evil" CEOs who are predominantly liberals or left-leaning being the ones involved in this practice.

What's really hilarious is your naïvete. Democrats have their hands out just as much as Republicans and won't bite the hands that feed them. I enjoy how you point out that Meg Whitman might have been Romney's choice as Secretary of Treasury if he had won the election but conveniently ignore that Eric Schmidt was in the running for a similar position (Treasury or Commerce) in the Obama administration. (there are other sources all over the internet too; here's another).

People defending "their team" is hilarious when neither team gives one crap about you. You guys can keep up the mental gymnastics all you want, but both parties are guilty of this sort of thing and CEOs, as previously stated, are generally greedy assholes.

This is a real issue, but once again it is not partisan related. Repubs and Dems leaders are laughing their way to the bank while their voters squabble about who's right and wrong. News flash, it's us for continuing to vote for corrupt officials who "get theirs" and allow companies to screw over their employees to create increasingly lucrative executive positions.

:thumbsup:

 

[norseamd]

businessmen are often going to pull shit like this regardless of political affilition

 

[WHAMPOM]

Wrong cock suckers.

Apple Total Contribution Dollar Amount to Democrats $968,043
Apple Total Contribution Dollar Amount to Republicans $228,640

http://www.campaignmoney.com/apple_computer.asp

eBay through Q3 2013 Total Contribution Dollar Amount Democrats ($2.6M)
eBay through Q3 2013 Total Contribution Dollar Amount Republicans ($1.9M)

http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/ebay-inc/63a4e4af43144a559018f0e0275e6fb8

Phokus calls me a fucking idiot in 3.....2.....1.......

Comparing uptown Cynthia to Three Buck Sally are you?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Strange how a thread on "FREE" market hiring practice turning into a "FIXED" market solely for the CEO's benefit went F-U so quickly.

 

[Geosurface]

As much as I disagree with corporate behavior like this, the unfortunate thing is that having caught them, when we stop them and hold their feet to the fire the ultimate end result will be more outsourcing and fewer jobs for the US.

 

[emperus]

This my guy vs. your guy thing is very silly but why do you only point out it's silliness when it's your side not looking so good? And seeing as how you won't let the whole Meg Whitman thing go and she is your smoking gun, here is a reality check. She was a hired hand. Ebay was, is and probably always will be Pierre Omidyar.

I have no guy. I think corporations get away with too much bullshit and own both parties. The D's to a lesser degree.

Again, my point with Meg Whitman was to point out how silly an argument you were making by trying to claim Ebay was a liberal company because of political donations. But you won't defend that, instead you keep obfuscating.

Just admit you tried to just stats, to make a point you should have known was inaccurate.

 

[emperus]

You mean Democrats like Steve Jobs and Eric Schmidt? The OP posts an article and blames libertarians and conservatives for kissing "evil" CEO's asses and letting them get away with unfair labor practices. The posted article, however, lists "evil" CEOs who are predominantly liberals or left-leaning being the ones involved in this practice.

What's really hilarious is your naïvete. Democrats have their hands out just as much as Republicans and won't bite the hands that feed them. I enjoy how you point out that Meg Whitman might have been Romney's choice as Secretary of Treasury if he had won the election but conveniently ignore that Eric Schmidt was in the running for a similar position (Treasury or Commerce) in the Obama administration. (there are other sources all over the internet too; here's another).

People defending "their team" is hilarious when neither team gives one crap about you. You guys can keep up the mental gymnastics all you want, but both parties are guilty of this sort of thing and CEOs, as previously stated, are generally greedy assholes.



:thumbsup:

My naiveté? When the GOP supports Unions or even a minimum living wage, you can come back to me and tell me how both parties are both the same. Again that is that false equivalency bullshit you choose to spew instead of seeing that there are shades of gray in everything.

But, I blame Republicans, because they are batshit crazy on this. And so, because they have become bat shit crazy, they have forced the center to the right. If they were a normal party the center could shift, where people would be ok challenging corporations or trying to keep them accountable. You have a Senator in your party saying that the FDA should be closed because of their onerous regulations and Senators in your party trying to dismantle the little "too big to Fail" regulations enacted after the downturn. Like I said batshit Crazy.

We can talk about the Democrat party and the two wings of the party. There is a pro Corporation wing (the triangulated Clinton wing) and a more Liberal wing. But, again at the end of the day there is one party that is pro worker not just in rhetoric alone. Guess which one.

But, we could have that discussion if you could challenge your "they are both the same equivalency" bullshit.

 

[Matt1970]

I have no guy. I think corporations get away with too much bullshit and own both parties. The D's to a lesser degree.

Again, my point with Meg Whitman was to point out how silly an argument you were making by trying to claim Ebay was a liberal company because of political donations. But you won't defend that, instead you keep obfuscating.

Just admit you tried to just stats, to make a point you should have known was inaccurate.

Oh bullshit. The fact that you decided to go after me for countering what was an outrageously inaccurate statement by the OP shows you have a guy. I proved my point with facts. I actually used facts to dispute the claims of the OP rather than just claim republicans are sucking the cocks of these CEO's. You are more than welcome to posts some stats top refute who is in bed with who.

 

[DCal430]

LMFAO these workers are making way over 6 figures and you cry wage suppression. Many of these so called suppressed workers were part of the 1%.

 

[MagickMan]

What the fuck are you retards talking about,

You owning yourself! It's hilarious! :awe: The Left's tech visionaries are no better, and likely worse, than CEOs aligned on the Right. I hope you've learned from this, sport.

 

[emperus]

Oh bullshit. The fact that you decided to go after me for countering what was an outrageously inaccurate statement by the OP shows you have a guy. I proved my point with facts. I actually used facts to dispute the claims of the OP rather than just claim republicans are sucking the cocks of these CEO's. You are more than welcome to posts some stats top refute who is in bed with who.

What fact? That Ebay employees gave more to the Dems so that made them a liberal company even though the CEO is a Republican?

C'mon, ur either being lazy or purposefully trying to mislead. Neither commendable.

I agree with the OP. I agree that the R's make it more difficult to get better Corporate accountability. Are you are arguing that? I don't get what you are arguing. I thought that was a given, (didn't Romney say "Corporations are people too"). I thought the only debate was whether more corporate regulations were good or bad for the country.

 

[emperus]

LMFAO these workers are making way over 6 figures and you cry wage suppression. Many of these so called suppressed workers were part of the 1%.

So, you believe that because a worker makes a certain amount that means, we shouldn't let the free market dictate how much they get paid? Furthermore that it is ok to suppress their wages? So, you would be ok with say a 50% tax on incomes say over 200k?

 

[manimal]

As much as I disagree with corporate behavior like this, the unfortunate thing is that having caught them, when we stop them and hold their feet to the fire the ultimate end result will be more outsourcing and fewer jobs for the US.

They have already held hostage jobs under the guise of some sort of uncertainty. Even the gridlock of today which is incredibly corprate friendly they complain and whine about uncertainty and how they cant hire.

 

[MagickMan]

This is a real issue, but once again it is not partisan related. Repubs and Dems leaders are laughing their way to the bank while their voters squabble about who's right and wrong. News flash, it's us for continuing to vote for corrupt officials who "get theirs" and allow companies to screw over their employees to create increasingly lucrative executive positions.

This. Of course.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

LOL Ownage at its best. Apple and Ebay are now conservative! LOL

Reality most be altered to fit the "progressive" narrative in a region and now state practically locked in and dominated by Democrats snake oil salesmen politicians and their supporters for the past four decades.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

You are still trying to go all in? You tried to use donations to prove that somehow Ebay was a liberal company (not even sure what your point was), yet the CEO is an unabashed Republican.

Steve Jobs runs a corporation. What makes him liberal? The fact that he donates to liberal causes? I'm sure if Obama came out tomm in support of more regulations against Apple or regulations forcing them to pay their Chinese workers living wages, he'd be all for it... Get real.

This my guy vs. your guy thing is very silly.

Btw, It's not just as much. You seem to live in the world of false equivalency. Both parties are beholden to corporations. But, there is only one party for unions, only one party for more regulations, and only one party for more corporate accountability. Guess which one.

Looks like someone has found the one true religion. LOL

 

[Zaap]

What fact? That Ebay employees gave more to the Dems so that made them a liberal company even though the CEO is a Republican?

C'mon, ur either being lazy or purposefully trying to mislead. Neither commendable.

LOL!
This is such a window into the crazy mind of a leftist. Every fact that runs counter to a lib's narrow worldview is supposed to be *automatically* discarded, or else anyone pointing it out must be criticized for bringing it up.

So here we have a guy going, "Unfair that you pointed out eBay giving more to Dems than Republicans!!!!!" ie: unfair to bring up a fact that runs counter to the liberal simple-mindedness of thinking big company= conservative just for the sake of a stupid argument.

Then on top of it, misleading by trying to make the focus all about Meg Whitman, while ignoring Eric Schmidt, Steve Jobs and other mostly left-leaning CEO's.

An amazing show of misleading- while trying to accuse someone else of misleading for pointing out facts you don't like!

Libs never cease to amaze me for insanity.

Also, before you further embarrass yourself, Meg Whitman hasn't been CEO if eBay since 2007. According to HuffPo, John Donahoe (current eBay CEO) contributes 100% to Democrats.

Now go back to whining and drinking your crack-laced cool-aid that makes you actually believe Democrats don't love people with lots of money as much as anyone else.

 

[IOException]

Before everyone starts debating the left leaning nature of tech companies, take a look at the actual amount of money that these corporations give to candidates. You'll realize that major companies aren't very involved in politics (compared to basically any other industry in America). It is actually pretty impressive, considering that tech products and services are one of the leading areas of growth and business in our country.

 

[emperus]

Looks like someone has found the one true religion. LOL

Are you disputing that? I believe in calling a spade a spade and then having a discussion on those spades. Try contributing, instead of unfunny one line quips.

 

[Zaap]

Before everyone starts debating the left leaning nature of tech companies, take a look at the actual amount of money that these corporations give to candidates. You'll realize that major companies aren't very involved in politics (compared to basically any other industry in America). It is actually pretty impressive, considering that tech products and services are one of the leading areas of growth and business in our country.

Tell that to the colossally stupid OP who self-owned himself by making things political, and then being 100% wrong about it.

 

[emperus]

Also, before you further embarrass yourself, Meg Whitman hasn't been CEO if eBay since 2007. According to HuffPo, John Donahoe (current eBay CEO) contributes 100% to Democrats.

What is the point of who is CEO of Ebay today have to do with this thread or any post I wrote?

Wait, maybe you just like throwing out irrelevant facts just like Mat1970 does.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Are you disputing that? I believe in calling a spade a spade and then having a discussion on those spades. Try contributing, instead of unfunny one line quips.

Not disputing that Democrats pander to people who believe in those things and push themselves as saviors.

Meanwhile they are actually enriching themselves greatly and building business connections and political campaign war chests in no different of a manner than republicans. All the while creating unintended consequences via shilling for unions at taxpayer expense, over regulating to keep themselves relevant and their preferred business allies in control and in power, and pushing up the cost of living by pushing up taxes and regulations that practically ensure you only have large dominate corporations in power who are...**SURPRISE** big donors to the democrat party. In fact the same big donors that the OP mentioned.