Tech Industry Backs Gore!

DirkBelig

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Of course Silicon Valley supports him. They manufactured the components that he's built from!
 

JellyBaby

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Slap,

You forget the tech industry also backs Bush. They've hedged their bets by donating huge amounts of money to both sides (M$, for instance has throw millions at both sides).

Gore would heavily tax the 'net. He's all but directly said so. I'm tired of the federal government holding us back and that would be yet another example of their oppression. The federal government has no damn need to increase their coffers through even more unnecessary taxation. Damnit keep your hands out of my wallet, I'm sick of it!
 

Slap

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Gore isn't planning on taxing the net. Give me a break. Bush still doesn't even know what the Internet is.
 

AndrewR

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Gore is a Democrat -- if there's something to tax, he'll tax it. Everyone knows that. ;)
 

KidViciou$

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gore is AGAINST taxing the net. i heard him say it, that was one of the things i was worried about, because he never stated his views on it. now that i heard it from the horses mouth, it gives me even more reason to support gore
 

Rogue

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Gore also said that he will do everything Bush will do and everything that he will do too. How can you be a Democrat and a Republican at the same time? Let me guess, he invented being Republican?
 

JellyBaby

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<< Gore isn't planning on taxing the net. Give me a break.>>

Slap/KidViciou$,

Re-he-he-heally? This is what Gore has stated about the internet:

&quot;Ideally, it should be tax-free. But in the real world, we cannot ignore the fact that our democracy thrives in a federal system in which state and local governments derive one-third of their revenue from sales taxes. Put yourself in the position of governors and mayors. I do not think that we can just stiff them as they contemplate a potential fiscal catastrophe [from the loss of sales taxes].
Source: Interview in Business Week, p. 42-43 Dec 20, 1999&quot;
 

SuperTool

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I think the tech industry just wants a split government, so none of these two panzies will get their stupid plans to work.
At least Al Gore can talk to Bill Clinton about how to keep the economy going. Who is Dubya going to ask? His daddy?
 

DirkBelig

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Good quote, JellyBaby.

If Gore says ANYTHING, it's most likely a lie, so you can't really place any stock in his words. He broke the tie to pass the biggest tax increase in history (which included higher taxes on the same seniors he's trying to frighten into voting for him) and he brags about it like it's what made the economy strong.

Democrats believe in more taxes and bigger government. Period.

If you think they're not, you need to lie down tomorrow and stay away from the polls, cuz you're not informed enough to make a reasoned judgement. Your country will thank you.
 

SuperTool

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I think it's quite clear by now that tax or no tax, your e-tailer stocks aren't going anywhere soon.
 

AndrewR

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Does anyone know if UPS or FedEx pay some sort of tax per shipment? They obviously pay business taxes and fuel taxes in the state where they ship so some government entity is earning revenue from each online purchase, ie. though the home state where the retail purchase was &quot;lost&quot; receives no tax directly, there is some government revenue from the online sale.

It is certainly less money than the states earn in sales tax, but I think that's excessive anyway.
 

Slap

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<< &quot;Ideally, it should be tax-free. But in the real world, we cannot ignore the fact that our democracy thrives in a federal system in which state and local governments derive one-third of their revenue from sales taxes. Put yourself in the position of governors and mayors. I do not think that we can just stiff them as they contemplate a potential fiscal catastrophe [from the loss of sales taxes]. >>



This quote does not state that he thinks we should tax the Internet. He is saying that by not having sales taxes on items bought form e-stores are local governments will start lacking in tax revenue. It is very simple. If I were to buy all my items from a e-store tax free, then my local government would start losing tax revenue. This isn't quite fair now is it.
 

Russ

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If Bore is elected, he would tax the internet. He would tax the basketball net, the tennis net, the fireman's rescue net, the trapeze artist's net, the damned fishing net. Crap, people, wake up. He'll tax everything that will provide more revenue and grow the government.

He's a proven liar. Anyone who believes that he wouldn't tax anything, simply because he says so, needs to seriously consider therapy.

Russ, NCNE
 

JellyBaby

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Slap,

If you want to get right down to it, the solution isn't to add sales taxes to the 'net but to repeal the old fashioned brick and mortar oppression. Now I realize that would seriously sting state governments but I say &quot;bzzzzzzzzz&quot;! If not total repeal at least reduce them and make damn sure the playing field is level and not kilted toward the federal government. Today the federal government enjoys a huge surplus (and has already spent much of it, thanks Clinton and the R-controlled congress!). Many states are running large surpluses as well.

The moment an internet sales tax is imposed, the government will look for additional ways to tax it. In fact it already does impose mandatory phone bill taxes for internet related ends. The feds will tax and regulate the 'net so much that eventually it will be another cash cow product for them to milk. I see this easily occuring under Bore, possibly occuring under Shrub and not happening at all under Browne. Nader isn't exactly tech-literate but I'd expect him to dabble therein as well (for our own good, of course).
 

Slap

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Seeing that I live in the state of TN, we depend on sales tax. As of today, we do not have a state income tax. If its left up to our Republican Governor, we will real soon. That being said, I hate to see tax dollars leaving my state due to some big e-store in some other state. It does help that Memphis is the largest distribution center in the US. This gives us several e-store distribution centers located in TN, which in turn gives us sales tax on anything bought from them.

I still do not believe any of the candidates would tax the Interent per say.