Tear gas on the border, is it wrong? Why did people only care when it happened under Trump? TDS again.

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ElFenix

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That one isn't long enough or tall enough.

i don't see anything saying they went around or over it. i did see some pictures of people making and pushing through a gap, but i don't know if that was recent.

point being that unmanned walls are worthless and since you have to man it, in the middle of nowhere it's just as effective to monitor no wall from a pseudo satellite as it is to monitor a wall from a pseudo satellite. as trumpy bear pointed out, you can defeat a 30 foot wall with a 31 foot ladder.
 

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i don't see anything saying they went around or over it. i did see some pictures of people making and pushing through a gap, but i don't know if that was recent.

So you're saying the wall created a barrier that worked?

I wonder how much this care will cost tax payers? What's a couple tens of thousands of dollars worth of emergency care and surgery, donor blood, and American doctors and nurses in an American hospital being taken away form being able to care for Americans anyway?
 

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So you're saying the wall created a barrier that worked?
who, exactly, is saying not to have a fence, wall, or other phyiscal barrier in the middle of towns/cities? what i'm saying is that it's useless to put one in the middle of nowhere because out there it's not the wall that matters, it's the monitoring. a wall isn't doing shit against anyone willing to go to the middle of nowhere to cross.
 

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A minor one. It can clearly be improved.
trumpy bear wants to waste money (and take a bunch of private property) building big concrete blocks in the middle of nowhere. take it up with him.
 

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None of the articles differentiate between the use of hand held CS spray and tear gas canisters.
 

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So, a lot of you seem to not have realized that the same things happened under Obama, so the excuse is "If I had known..."

I wonder why the media magnified it so much today? It is like the leftist media hates Trump and are spoon feeding you how to think. Hmmm....
 
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Jhhnn

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I forget, which is the pleasant one?

Please. CS spray is like pepper spray, just stronger. It's for up close use against a particular person or persons. The CS canisters lobbed across the border weren't that at all.

CS spray hasn't been available to civilians in the US for years but is readily available to LEO & in other parts of the world.
 

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So, a lot of you seem to not have realized that the same things happened under Obama, so the excuse is "If I had known..."

I wonder why the media magnified it so much today? It is like the leftist media hates Trump and are spoon feeding you how to think. Hmmm....
they hate him so much that they treat him with kid gloves and don't bother asking him follow up questions worth a shit or confront him with facts. if they did maybe he'd go away like you do.
 
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So, a lot of you seem to not have realized that the same things happened under Obama, so the excuse is "If I had known..."

I wonder why the media magnified it so much today? It is like the leftist media hates Trump and are spoon feeding you how to think. Hmmm....
I notice you failed to answer your own question
 

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So, a lot of you seem to not have realized that the same things happened under Obama, so the excuse is "If I had known..."

I wonder why the media magnified it so much today? It is like the leftist media hates Trump and are spoon feeding you how to think. Hmmm....
Yup because let us know how many times Obama built up anti immigrant hysteria and cried to his supporters that if you didn't vote Democrat, the Republicans were going to let immigrants overtake the country. Oh yea I remember now, Obama never acted like that.



Trump creates his own negative press. We've never seen this kind of negative press of a president because we've never had a president this horrible and purposely negative before. He does this to himself. You Trump supporters have no one to blame the negative press on anyone but yourselves and Trump.

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Yup because let us know how many times Obama built up anti immigrant hysteria and cried to his supporters that if you didn't vote Democrat, the Republicans were going to let immigrants overtake the country. Oh yea I remember now, Obama never acted like that.



Trump creates his own negative press. We've never seen this kind of negative press of a president because we've never had a president this horrible and purposely negative before. He does this to himself. You Trump supporters have no one to blame the negative press on anyone but yourselves and Trump.

/AnyTrumpTrumpThreadYouMake


Sure, its Trump's fault again... lol. It must be TDS Thursday or something, you guys are on a roll today. Maybe you just haven't had your coffee yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZL7hfVqoMA

As the SHS points out, in years prior tear gas was used in much lesser circumstances compared to those of the last week. No one cared, the leftist press certainly didn't, so you didn't. Today they tell you to jump and you oblige.
 
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Sure, its Trump's fault again... lol. It must be TDS Thursday or something, you guys are on a roll today. Maybe you just haven't had your coffee yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZL7hfVqoMA

As the SHS points out, in years prior tear gas was used in much lesser circumstances compared to those of the last week. No one cared, the leftist press certainly didn't, so you didn't. Today they tell you to jump and you oblige.

So to be clear you’re angry at the press paying attention to the thing Trump wanted them to pay attention to and furthermore, them doing what Trump asked is a sign that they are terribly mean to him and biased against him.

Lol. Again, even when people do what you ask you whine about it.
 
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fskimospy

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I bet if Obama had directed the press to pay attention to the situation at the border with a specific set of migrants they would have done it too. The only difference is that Obama was a real leader so he wouldn’t have whined about it when he got what he asked for.

Remember when America had a real president who took responsibility for his actions? That was nice.
 
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Tear gas doesnt really bother me regardless which president was warming the chair. Sure it sucks, but its not going to kill you and its a pretty tame means of dispersing people. And technically its true that they brought this upon themselves.
 

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http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/11/...ention-use-tear-gas-border-during-obama-admin

No one cared before, now it is a humanitarian issue with Trump in office. Just like no one cared when families were separated at the border under Obama, but when Trump did it liberals shit themselves. The left suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome, I do hope they grow up and are cured soon. Time to join the rest of us in reality.

It's a matter of record that Trump is an incestuous, narcissistic, pedophile that kidnaps children, and keeps them in cages for his own pleasures. There is absolutely nothing surprising about him tear gassing women and children.

Every time you think he's hit the bottom of the barrel, he always manages to find the subbasement.

And since you feel that compelling need to bring up Obama, name one instance, just one, where Obama stated "Don't believe what you see on TV, or read in the newspapers, only believe what I tell you".

The only difference between Donald Trump and Jim Jones, is that Jim Jones never tried to hide who he really was. Satan.
 

fskimospy

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Then maybe they shouldn't charge the border...IMO, they should be glad they weren't met with a hail of lead.

The women and children should be glad our government didn’t murder them after illegally denying them the ability to apply for asylum?

You guys are seriously losing it. This is psychopathic.
 

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The women and children should be glad our government didn’t murder them after illegally denying them the ability to apply for asylum?

You guys are seriously losing it. This is psychopathic.

Not allowing them to apply, or saying they have to wait because there are people ahead of them that they are processing them? I know he cant disallow them from ever applying, but, you could never process thousands of requests in a single day.
 

fskimospy

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Not allowing them to apply, or saying they have to wait because there are people ahead of them that they are processing them? I know he cant disallow them from ever applying, but, you could never process thousands of requests in a single day.

He has denied them the ability to apply for asylum except at ports of entry, which has created this giant backlog. This is a direct, to the letter violation of federal law:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158

Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.
 
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