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OutHouse

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Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: TravisT
Are you saying it is okay to break the law simply if you disagree with it? Where is the line drawn? Do you think kids that are influenced easily would cross that line if they were shown that it is okay to keep pushing it back to whatever it is that may fit their desires?

You better not ever go over the speed limit when your kids are in the car with you.

going 10 over the speed limit isnt a felony.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: TravisT
Are you saying it is okay to break the law simply if you disagree with it? Where is the line drawn? Do you think kids that are influenced easily would cross that line if they were shown that it is okay to keep pushing it back to whatever it is that may fit their desires?

Of course it's not okay to break the law simply if you disagree with it, however:
1. Kids have nothing to do with this.
2. The law IS wrong and hypocritical.
3. A stand must be taken.

It was lynch mob democracy that got these laws into place, and it's lynch mob democracy that keeps them in place, so I have few qualms with using the same back at them. I'm sick and tired of the mob's irrational fears and merciless hate dictating life for everyone in this country.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: TravisT
Are you saying it is okay to break the law simply if you disagree with it? Where is the line drawn? Do you think kids that are influenced easily would cross that line if they were shown that it is okay to keep pushing it back to whatever it is that may fit their desires?

You better not ever go over the speed limit when your kids are in the car with you.

going 10 over the speed limit isnt a felony.

Well, considering the horrific number of traffic deaths and injuries in the US every year, maybe we oughta change that, huh?
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: TravisT
Are you saying it is okay to break the law simply if you disagree with it? Where is the line drawn? Do you think kids that are influenced easily would cross that line if they were shown that it is okay to keep pushing it back to whatever it is that may fit their desires?

You better not ever go over the speed limit when your kids are in the car with you.

going 10 over the speed limit isnt a felony.

Neither is MJ possession, though you're still breaking the law!!!
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: TravisT
I wouldn't want my kids rolemodel to be someone with type of behaviour. Smoking marijuana is illegal, what kind of example would I also be showing my own kids by taking up for someone who is deliberately breaking the law? This guy got caught, he got in trouble, he got what he deserves... regardless of how you view the effects or non-effects of marijuana.

What type of behavior? Assuming he only smokes at home in his free time, he would have the exact same behavior as any other person. He isn't setting any example, because he isn't teaching while he is high.

Using your rationale, is it bad for all teachers to drink alcohol in their free time? It's bad for you, and it can kill you, what kind of example is that?

It's not illegal. If you side with the teacher, you are also saying it is okay to break the law. Where do the boundaries stop? I'm not necessarily arguing that marijuana should or should not be illegal. At this point it is illegal, until they make it legal, I don't think you should make it known to children that it is okay to break the law.

Please answer one question for me:

Have you ever sped in your car?

Now, answer one more:

Should all teachers who speed in their cars be fired?

Now, something to think about:

Just because a teacher speeds doesn't mean he should be fired, right? It has no affect on his teaching abilit--oh wait... exact same argument.

Furthermore,
He wasn't letting them know he was breaking the law. It's not like he comes into class high, then talks about how blazed he got the night before. Do teachers come in talking about how drunk they were over the weekend? No. Your arguments really hold no water...

are you stupid? a cop isnt going to pull you over for going 5mph or in some cases even 10mph over the speed limit. but if you pull next to a cop and fire up a bowl your ass is going to jail.
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: TravisT
Are you saying it is okay to break the law simply if you disagree with it? Where is the line drawn? Do you think kids that are influenced easily would cross that line if they were shown that it is okay to keep pushing it back to whatever it is that may fit their desires?

You better not ever go over the speed limit when your kids are in the car with you.

going 10 over the speed limit isnt a felony.

Neither is smoking pot.
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: TravisT
I wouldn't want my kids rolemodel to be someone with type of behaviour. Smoking marijuana is illegal, what kind of example would I also be showing my own kids by taking up for someone who is deliberately breaking the law? This guy got caught, he got in trouble, he got what he deserves... regardless of how you view the effects or non-effects of marijuana.

What type of behavior? Assuming he only smokes at home in his free time, he would have the exact same behavior as any other person. He isn't setting any example, because he isn't teaching while he is high.

Using your rationale, is it bad for all teachers to drink alcohol in their free time? It's bad for you, and it can kill you, what kind of example is that?

It's not illegal. If you side with the teacher, you are also saying it is okay to break the law. Where do the boundaries stop? I'm not necessarily arguing that marijuana should or should not be illegal. At this point it is illegal, until they make it legal, I don't think you should make it known to children that it is okay to break the law.

Please answer one question for me:

Have you ever sped in your car?

Now, answer one more:

Should all teachers who speed in their cars be fired?

Now, something to think about:

Just because a teacher speeds doesn't mean he should be fired, right? It has no affect on his teaching abilit--oh wait... exact same argument.

Furthermore,
He wasn't letting them know he was breaking the law. It's not like he comes into class high, then talks about how blazed he got the night before. Do teachers come in talking about how drunk they were over the weekend? No. Your arguments really hold no water...

are you stupid? a cop isnt going to pull you over for going 5mph or in some cases even 10mph over the speed limit. but if you pull next to a cop and fire up a bowl your ass is going to jail.

Are you honestly so dense that you don't understand the connection?
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: TravisT
I wouldn't want my kids rolemodel to be someone with type of behaviour. Smoking marijuana is illegal, what kind of example would I also be showing my own kids by taking up for someone who is deliberately breaking the law? This guy got caught, he got in trouble, he got what he deserves... regardless of how you view the effects or non-effects of marijuana.

What type of behavior? Assuming he only smokes at home in his free time, he would have the exact same behavior as any other person. He isn't setting any example, because he isn't teaching while he is high.

Using your rationale, is it bad for all teachers to drink alcohol in their free time? It's bad for you, and it can kill you, what kind of example is that?

It's not illegal. If you side with the teacher, you are also saying it is okay to break the law. Where do the boundaries stop? I'm not necessarily arguing that marijuana should or should not be illegal. At this point it is illegal, until they make it legal, I don't think you should make it known to children that it is okay to break the law.

Please answer one question for me:

Have you ever sped in your car?

Now, answer one more:

Should all teachers who speed in their cars be fired?

Now, something to think about:

Just because a teacher speeds doesn't mean he should be fired, right? It has no affect on his teaching abilit--oh wait... exact same argument.

Furthermore,
He wasn't letting them know he was breaking the law. It's not like he comes into class high, then talks about how blazed he got the night before. Do teachers come in talking about how drunk they were over the weekend? No. Your arguments really hold no water...

are you stupid? a cop isnt going to pull you over for going 5mph or in some cases even 10mph over the speed limit. but if you pull next to a cop and fire up a bowl your ass is going to jail.

So he's stupid for not knowing that sometimes it's okay to break the law and other times it isn't? Is that how this works?
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: TravisT
I wouldn't want my kids rolemodel to be someone with type of behaviour. Smoking marijuana is illegal, what kind of example would I also be showing my own kids by taking up for someone who is deliberately breaking the law? This guy got caught, he got in trouble, he got what he deserves... regardless of how you view the effects or non-effects of marijuana.

What type of behavior? Assuming he only smokes at home in his free time, he would have the exact same behavior as any other person. He isn't setting any example, because he isn't teaching while he is high.

Using your rationale, is it bad for all teachers to drink alcohol in their free time? It's bad for you, and it can kill you, what kind of example is that?

It's not illegal. If you side with the teacher, you are also saying it is okay to break the law. Where do the boundaries stop? I'm not necessarily arguing that marijuana should or should not be illegal. At this point it is illegal, until they make it legal, I don't think you should make it known to children that it is okay to break the law.

Please answer one question for me:

Have you ever sped in your car?

Now, answer one more:

Should all teachers who speed in their cars be fired?

Now, something to think about:

Just because a teacher speeds doesn't mean he should be fired, right? It has no affect on his teaching abilit--oh wait... exact same argument.

Furthermore,
He wasn't letting them know he was breaking the law. It's not like he comes into class high, then talks about how blazed he got the night before. Do teachers come in talking about how drunk they were over the weekend? No. Your arguments really hold no water...

are you stupid? a cop isnt going to pull you over for going 5mph or in some cases even 10mph over the speed limit. but if you pull next to a cop and fire up a bowl your ass is going to jail.

So he's stupid for not knowing that sometimes it's okay to break the law and other times it isn't? Is that how this works?

Yeah I think he just owned himself and whatever argument he tried to make is now void since he just contradicted it.
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: TravisT
Are you saying it is okay to break the law simply if you disagree with it? Where is the line drawn? Do you think kids that are influenced easily would cross that line if they were shown that it is okay to keep pushing it back to whatever it is that may fit their desires?

That isn't the argument.

The argument here is that I think it is okay for this guy to do what he wants at home, as long as it doesn't affect his teaching.

You're talking about how the kids are going to be influenced and ruined, etc, when in reality, they would have no idea that this guy even smoked in his free time.

And yes, I think some laws are you stupid and hypocritical, so I choose not to abide by them. I will smoke at home if it isn't going to harm anyone. I will walk across the street if there are no cars coming. And I will drive 10MPH over if there is no risk of an accident.
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: TravisT
Are you saying it is okay to break the law simply if you disagree with it? Where is the line drawn? Do you think kids that are influenced easily would cross that line if they were shown that it is okay to keep pushing it back to whatever it is that may fit their desires?

And yes, I think some laws are you stupid and hypocritical, so I choose not to abide by them. I will smoke at home if it isn't going to harm anyone. I will walk across the street if there are no cars coming. And I will drive 10MPH over if there is no risk of an accident.

You, sir, should be thrown in jail!
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: TravisT
Are you saying it is okay to break the law simply if you disagree with it? Where is the line drawn? Do you think kids that are influenced easily would cross that line if they were shown that it is okay to keep pushing it back to whatever it is that may fit their desires?

You better not ever go over the speed limit when your kids are in the car with you.

going 10 over the speed limit isnt a felony.

Neither is smoking pot.

that depends on the state actually
laws vary from state to state
 

Cruisin1

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: bum
Originally posted by: Citrix
Screw him, i dont want some drugged out pot head teacher teaching my kids. hope he never gets another teaching job.

I dont give a sh*t if it was on his own time, weed is illegal period and as a teacher he is and should be held to a higher standard.

What does "drugged out pot head teacher" have to do with this? In what way are you assuming his cannabis use effected his teaching?

its pretty black and white what i mean by that. are you suggesting there is not long term effects from weed? are you suggesting that it is totally harmless and will never ever affect his teaching or behavior?

Hate to break it to you, but there are long term effects to drinking alcohol... Alcohol kills brain cells too smart guy.
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Anubis
that depends on the state actually
laws vary from state to state

Thats a felony in some states? :confused:

The last time I checked, it's not a felony in any state if you have a small enough amount. That is, an amount that could only be for personal use and not selling.
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: Cruisin1
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: bum
Originally posted by: Citrix
Screw him, i dont want some drugged out pot head teacher teaching my kids. hope he never gets another teaching job.

I dont give a sh*t if it was on his own time, weed is illegal period and as a teacher he is and should be held to a higher standard.

What does "drugged out pot head teacher" have to do with this? In what way are you assuming his cannabis use effected his teaching?

its pretty black and white what i mean by that. are you suggesting there is not long term effects from weed? are you suggesting that it is totally harmless and will never ever affect his teaching or behavior?

Hate to break it to you, but there are long term effects to drinking alcohol... Alcohol kills brain cells too smart guy.

/argument annihilated
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Anubis
that depends on the state actually
laws vary from state to state

Thats a felony in some states? :confused:

The last time I checked, it's not a felony in any state if you have a small enough amount. That is, an amount that could only be for personal use and not selling.

thats totally subjective, some states the felony possesition amnt is like 35 grams, 35 grams is an eaith, so if you had say a 1/4 OZ it would be a felony, and a 1/4 is a personal use amnt,

hell back when i smoked more then i should have i would buy whole OZs for myself because its cheaper to buy in bulk, just like Sams Club
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Anubis
that depends on the state actually
laws vary from state to state

Thats a felony in some states? :confused:

well smoking it isnt but Possession is, and well if you are smoking it you are technicially possessing it, depends on the amnt you have on you, some states are more lenient then others

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516

Cool site.

So in Alaska, it is 100% legal to have up to 1oz? Does that mean I can be walking down the street smoking a J, legally?
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Anubis
that depends on the state actually
laws vary from state to state

Thats a felony in some states? :confused:

well smoking it isnt but Possession is, and well if you are smoking it you are technicially possessing it, depends on the amnt you have on you, some states are more lenient then others

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516

Cool site.

So in Alaska, it is 100% legal to have up to 1oz? Does that mean I can be walking down the street smoking a J, legally?

no it says "In your Home"
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Anubis
that depends on the state actually
laws vary from state to state

Thats a felony in some states? :confused:

well smoking it isnt but Possession is, and well if you are smoking it you are technicially possessing it, depends on the amnt you have on you, some states are more lenient then others

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516

Crazy. Thanks for the link.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Anubis
that depends on the state actually
laws vary from state to state

Thats a felony in some states? :confused:

The last time I checked, it's not a felony in any state if you have a small enough amount. That is, an amount that could only be for personal use and not selling.

thats totally subjective, some states the felony possesition amnt is like 35 grams, 35 grams is an eaith, so if you had say a 1/4 OZ it would be a felony, and a 1/4 is a personal use amnt,

hell back when i smoked more then i should have i would buy whole OZs for myself because its cheaper to buy in bulk, just like Sams Club

Your math is WAAAAY off. 35 grams is over an ounce.
 

glutenberg

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Does anyone have any opinions about MJ and its effects on your driving ability? Is it as bad as driving after heavy drinking?
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: glutenberg
Does anyone have any opinions about MJ and its effects on your driving ability? Is it as bad as driving after heavy drinking?

Not as bad as being drunk.

Not good either though.