Teac 40x12x48 Black CDRW $96 at Dell Home

RossMAN

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Nice deal esp if you have a black (or Midnight Grey Dell) case.
 

jinjen

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Novice question here...

What are the buying tips for a CDRW? What brand(s)
recommended?

The higher the Xnumber, the better? not necessarily?
How come a model with a lower Xnumber goes for a
higher price in the above mentioned site?

Thanks in advance.
 

computer

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jinjen, look for one with *Burn Proof technology*, this can cut way down on the # of coasters made, if not eliminate it. Do not get one with only a 2mb buffer. This is horrible for packet writing (drag 'n drop files method to the CDRW drive). Mine has an 8mb buffer (Yam LiteSpeed II 20x10x40, burn proof) and I have NEVER made a coaster with it whether using the CD copier function (for example, ECDC [Easy CD Creator by Adaptec/Roxio] or using it's packet writing drag 'n drop (DCD, [Direct CD part of ECDC creator above]). Due to it's 8mb buffer, it is faster in packet writing that a 40x CDRW drive with only a 2mb buffer. I HAVE made coasters with drives using only a 2mb buffer with DCD.

The speed is only as good as the media. If you do not have or cannot find 40x media, then you cannot record @40x (if you have a 40x12x48 cdrw drive for example). I have a bundle of 16x media and I can write to it all the time @20x using my Yam. If the media and drive are good enough, you can usually bump it up a bit. Some good 32x media may work @40x writing speeds. This is only the cdR media I'm speaking of (which is the first number in the speed of a cdrw drive). A 20x10x40 drive spec means 20x writing to cdR media, 10x writing and REwriting to cdRW media, and 40x means the READING from pressed CDROM disks. Most CDR and CDRW media you record will not read at the (in this example) 40x read speed. That is only an absolute maximum figure. It's usually much lower.

General consensus seems to be Plextor is about the best. TDK is also good. And I CAN vouch for my Yamaha as to it's quality. SCSI drives are usually a bit more reliable than IDE drives. Personally I would ALWAYS go with a (for example) 32x12x40 CDRW drive w/8mb buffer over a 40x12x48 CDRW drive with only a 2mb buffer. I'd even go for a 20x10x40 w/8mb over the 40x12x48 w/2mb. Since I rarely copy CD's, the vast bulk of my recording is backing up my files, which of course is the packet writing portion (DCD) where the buffer size is more critical.

ECDC is just one brand of burning software that comes with retail boxed CDRW drives, and most hate it! Most here will tell you Nero is best, CD Clone, etc....there are many brands out there. But I have never had a problem with Adaptec (now Roxio) ECDC 5 Platinum. Before it was out I used v4 of ECDC and had very few problems with it. I find ECDC 5 Platinum to better that 4. Nero (at least the last time I checked) won't even allow you to use a CDR disk for packet writing! Only CDRW disks. This was why I did not like it, plus I Just found the interface to me much more complicated than ECDC. No interface is even needed with ECDC. Just exe the 'CD copier' portion of the software, stick the media in the CDRW drive and stick the disk you want copied in the ROM drive, that's it. For packet writing with ECDC, (the DCD portion of it), just exe the DCD part, icon goes to system tray, and (assuming it's been formatted) start 'dragging' to the CDRW drive icon, or you can use the right click and 'send to.....' function.

Software brands are VERY subjective and you'll get a different opinion on them for every person you ask. This is just the opinion of one long time CDRW drive user. ;)

HTH.
 

jinjen

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computer,

WOW! more than I bargained for!

Thank you so much for the info!

 

computer

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Welcome! :)

(BTW, since you say you are a novice.....HTH=Hope That Helps, & BTW is By The Way). You may already know that, so if you do, sorry.
 

BD231

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only if it could back up SD2 games

Word, Teac drives SUCK for 1:1 coppies, better off with a LIte-On or somethin.
 

iwearnosox

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Received this today. It arrived in a crushed box with nothing more than a single coat of thin bubble wrap. It's gonna be a miracle if it boots up undamaged.

 

computer

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(Guess I'll stay away from 'Zeehooo') :)

Does anyone know positively if this drive is UDMA 33? This is not listed at their site or in the pdf, and when they leave that out, it's because they are usually only PIO 4. (Yes, even some new, fast CDRW drives are only PIO4/UDMA 16) :Q
 

Xidus

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Originally posted by: computer
jinjen,
Do not get one with only a 2mb buffer. This is horrible for packet writing (drag 'n drop files method to the CDRW drive).

I'm alittle rusty on my CDR technology but way back when I looked into using packet writing and found that it doesn't use a CDR's max capacity. I forget the numbers but I think it was something like 500mb out of a 650mb cd. Is that still the case?
 

computer

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Do you mean the CDR disk's max capacity? If so, no, I can put ~630mb or so on a 650mb CDR. I always leave some room for closing to read a regular ROM drive, then re-opening of it, closing it again, etc. Now, a cdRW disk only has a capacity of about ~530mb.
 

GermyBoy

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Originally posted by: computer
Do you mean the CDR disk's max capacity? If so, no, I can put ~630mb or so on a 650mb CDR. I always leave some room for closing to read a regular ROM drive, then re-opening of it, closing it again, etc. Now, a cdRW disk only has a capacity of about ~530mb.

The dell one would go better in a dell case. The other one looks sharper in an antec case.
 

Xidus

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Originally posted by: computer
Now, a cdRW disk only has a capacity of about ~530mb.

That must be what I'm remembering, lower capacity with packet writing CDRW.
 

computer

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Does anyone know positively if this drive is UDMA 33? This is not listed at their site or in the pdf, and when they leave that out, it's because they are usually only PIO 4. (Yes, even some new, fast CDRW drives are only PIO4/UDMA 16) :Q
 

computer

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FYI, I FINALLY found out these drives are UDMA 33. Dell is charging me $4.00 shipping instead of 3.50 like they are supposed to (and as it states on the previous page).