TBred 'B' Core to go to 3700/3Ghz?

[DivideBYZero]

Check out this little chart HERE

Taken from THIS PAGE that shows a 2500+ BARTON.

Interesting times ahead...

 

[Jeff7181]

I have some doubts about that... why are areas blanked out? Seems like someone may be pulling a Photoshop prank.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

That chart is either wrong or incomplete. There are lower PR Tbred B's that are not showing, and I don't think the Tbred will ever reach 3Ghz or higher. Barton will get a higher PR from the extra cache but I dont expect the Athlons to breech too high in clock rate with the Hammer coming along fairly soon.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
That chart is either wrong or incomplete. There are lower PR Tbred B's that are not showing, and I don't think the Tbred will ever reach 3Ghz or higher. Barton will get a higher PR from the extra cache but I dont expect the Athlons to breech too high in clock rate with the Hammer coming along fairly soon.

Clock speeds don't seem to bother Intel too much with Itanium running considerably lower ticks to the raging P4. Why should AMD Care? The two procs are in a different space, or at least will be for at least the next 12 months.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

There is a huge difference between Itanium and P4/Athlon in the sense that it is a 64 bit processor of which it does have huge potential to kick the crap out of the P4 and the Athlon in the area's it is built for. But for everyday average 32 bit applications, the P4 and the Athlon are the major contenders here. Moterolla's G4 chip is seriously lagging behind which is bad news for apple but not for us PC users. AMD won't care which is why I said that I doubt Barton nor Tbred B will get considerably fast clock rates, although the potential is there through supercooling, insane voltages, and super super fast ram and FSB speeds. I don't think AMD plans to or even intends to fight intel with the Hz race as they are more intent on fighting them in the performance race and not just the price/performance race. $400 will get you a 2800+ clocked at 2.25GHz. Considerably slower clockrate wise than intel's 2.8GHz P4, but both parts cost about the same and perform on close levels. With the Tbred B, enthusiats can now keep up with intel as far as tweeking their system to be the fastest it can be. The #2 3DMark2k1SE score is an AMD Tbred B system on an nForce2 platform. That says something about AMD.

And when a 2.69GHz Athlon powered system can break 21000+ 3DMarks due to a 233MHz FSB, that's also saying something. Athlons have seemingly regained the ground as enthusiast tweeking CPUs over intel, as you don't really need super fance liquid gas cooling solutions just to get super high scores. AMD won't need to worry about keeping up Hz for Hz, but that chart shows them doing it, and I doubt that.

 

[Jeff7181]

I'm half tempted to create an XP5000 out of my photos of my XP1700 with Photoshop just to see how people here react, lol.

Oh... and about the 64 bit CPU's... seems AMD has plans to force 64 bit CPU's on the market, considering I've read a few different places that AMD plans on making the Athlon-64 as their performance chip, and keeping the Barton around as their value line.

Some people are confused... the Hammer is not exactly the same as the Athlon-64. The Athlon-64 is the desktop version of the Hammer. Hammers will be server level CPU's with I think they're saying up to 8 MB of cache... the Athlon 64 will have 1 MB I believe. Someone correct me if you know the exact number, but I think that's what I heard. And seeing as how Microsoft is working with AMD to build a 64 bit consumer level version of Windows... I have a feeling Intel will be forced to make a desktop version of the Itanium... cause we all know how much Microsoft loves "planned obsolescence"

Wave goodbye to Windows XP the same way we waved goodbye to Windows 3.1 almost 10 years ago...