Taxes

[Brutuskend]

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Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest expense (tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS
Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road usage taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll
Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
Trailer registration tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.


What do you think changed?

 

[Zim Hosein]

<-- A US taxpayer 🙁

 

[Don66]

The cost for living in todays world:beer:

 

[bleeb]

WHY are you talking about taxes already!?????

 

[Brutuskend]

It's to take the edge off the jokes silly!

 

[Orsorum]

Welfare, SS and Medicare, anyone?

 

[syberscott]

If you think you get taxed too much in the US then come live in Canada for a while.

 

[beer]

100 years ago, there were no real roads. There was no public school system, and for the most part, it ended at 8th grade. There was no social security or medicare. We used our military for primarily defensive purposes and weren't paying billions on research. There was no space program - no money goes to NASA. In fact, there were no airplanes. This means no FAA. In fact, there were no vehicles - there was no EPA. There was no NTSB. There was no air force. In fact, all the troops were drafted, so they could be paid sh!t. There was no SEC - look how it brought everything down in 1929. There was no terrorism, there was no money-sucking UN.

Enough yet?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Elemental007
100 years ago, there were no real roads. There was no public school system, and for the most part, it ended at 8th grade. There was no social security or medicare. We used our military for primarily defensive purposes and weren't paying billions on research. There was no space program - no money goes to NASA. In fact, there were no airplanes. This means no FAA. In fact, there were no vehicles - there was no EPA. There was no NTSB. There was no air force. In fact, all the troops were drafted, so they could be paid sh!t. There was no SEC - look how it brought everything down in 1929. There was no terrorism, there was no money-sucking UN.

Enough yet?

And overall the world was a much nicer place to live in for just about eveyone.....who cares if you died younger and medical science wasn't that advanced, at least while you were alive there were actually things to appreciate, enjoy, and remember. Everyone needs to go to all the history museums they can and see all that we are missing today....we have more technology and tangible goods than any point in history yet we don't possess anywhere near as much as generations of yore did.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Elemental007
100 years ago, there were no real roads. There was no public school system, and for the most part, it ended at 8th grade. There was no social security or medicare. We used our military for primarily defensive purposes and weren't paying billions on research. There was no space program - no money goes to NASA. In fact, there were no airplanes. This means no FAA. In fact, there were no vehicles - there was no EPA. There was no NTSB. There was no air force. In fact, all the troops were drafted, so they could be paid sh!t. There was no SEC - look how it brought everything down in 1929. There was no terrorism, there was no money-sucking UN.

Enough yet?

And overall the world was a much nicer place to live in for just about eveyone.....who cares if you died younger and medical science wasn't that advanced, at least while you were alive there were actually things to appreciate, enjoy, and remember. Everyone needs to go to all the history museums they can and see all that we are missing today....we have more technology and tangible goods than any point in history yet we don't possess anywhere near as much as generations of yore did.

right....

...I'd rather spend hours growing my own crops, having to cook all my own food from scratch. And when I'm not doing that, I can wash my clothes by hand in the creek down by the river. And screw being able to travel anywhere, I'll be ontent with my 3-mile radius that I can go in an average day. Screw running, sanitized, drinkable water. For that matter, screw plumbing and wastewater - I'll sh!t into the same hole on a daily basis. Screw being able to find anything I need to in a matter of seconds - I'll stick with an encyclopedia that costs $$$$$ and do it all by hand.

Compared to now, people merely 'existed' back then. They spent hours and hours a day for things that I can get done in five minutes. I put the clothes in the washer, they are clean 1 hr later. Put them in the dryer, they are dry 90 min later. I can have a good, healthy meal in 20 minutes, or a quick one in five minutes. When I am done eating, I load the dishwater and an hour later, all my dishes are clean and dry. I can to go Wal-Mart and buy 5 metal spoons for $1. I can buy fully grilled, cooked burgers for $1 each. I don't worry about my water being dirty, it is just always there. I always have power to do what I want, I can work at any time of the day (horray electric lights). I can commute 25 miles in 20 minutes, a trip to the grocery store takes five minutes and I can buy all my food for a week in what I make in 4 hours of work. I can buy cheese and butter for pennies and I can use my wonderful refrigerator to keep it good for a few weeks.

 

[Kenazo]

Brutuskend, where the heck do you find some of these gems? 🙂

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: Elemental007

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Elemental007
100 years ago, there were no real roads. There was no public school system, and for the most part, it ended at 8th grade. There was no social security or medicare. We used our military for primarily defensive purposes and weren't paying billions on research. There was no space program - no money goes to NASA. In fact, there were no airplanes. This means no FAA. In fact, there were no vehicles - there was no EPA. There was no NTSB. There was no air force. In fact, all the troops were drafted, so they could be paid sh!t. There was no SEC - look how it brought everything down in 1929. There was no terrorism, there was no money-sucking UN.

Enough yet?

And overall the world was a much nicer place to live in for just about eveyone.....who cares if you died younger and medical science wasn't that advanced, at least while you were alive there were actually things to appreciate, enjoy, and remember. Everyone needs to go to all the history museums they can and see all that we are missing today....we have more technology and tangible goods than any point in history yet we don't possess anywhere near as much as generations of yore did.

right....

...I'd rather spend hours growing my own crops, having to cook all my own food from scratch. And when I'm not doing that, I can wash my clothes by hand in the creek down by the river. And screw being able to travel anywhere, I'll be ontent with my 3-mile radius that I can go in an average day. Screw running, sanitized, drinkable water. For that matter, screw plumbing and wastewater - I'll sh!t into the same hole on a daily basis. Screw being able to find anything I need to in a matter of seconds - I'll stick with an encyclopedia that costs $$$$$ and do it all by hand.

Compared to now, people merely 'existed' back then. They spent hours and hours a day for things that I can get done in five minutes. I put the clothes in the washer, they are clean 1 hr later. Put them in the dryer, they are dry 90 min later. I can have a good, healthy meal in 20 minutes, or a quick one in five minutes. When I am done eating, I load the dishwater and an hour later, all my dishes are clean and dry. I can to go Wal-Mart and buy 5 metal spoons for $1. I can buy fully grilled, cooked burgers for $1 each. I don't worry about my water being dirty, it is just always there. I always have power to do what I want, I can work at any time of the day (horray electric lights). I can commute 25 miles in 20 minutes, a trip to the grocery store takes five minutes and I can buy all my food for a week in what I make in 4 hours of work.

One could argue that many of these things existed for city dwellers a hundred years ago, too.

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: AvesPKS

One could argue that many of these things existed for city dwellers a hundred years ago, too.

Washing machine?
Dryer?
Automatic dishwasher?
Freezer (I can see an icebox being a fridge, however, it's not the same)
Microwaves?
Reliable AC electricity?
Air conditioning (living in Texas would SUCK)?
Food costing a fraction of an hourly wage?
Automobiles?
Paved roads?
Air transit?
Don't even get me started on other entertainment factors, such as TV/internet/movies/etc.....

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Elemental007
100 years ago, there were no real roads.

Supposed to be covered through vehicle registration and gas taxes.

There was no public school system, and for the most part, it ended at 8th grade.

Supposed to be funded through property taxes.

There was no social security or medicare.

SS has it's own, seperate income tax.

We used our military for primarily defensive purposes and weren't paying billions on research.

Tell that to Spain, Guam, Puerto Rico and the Philippines.

There was no space program - no money goes to NASA.

The first valid prgram with no specific tax funding it.

In fact, there were no airplanes. This means no FAA.

Supposed to be funded through taxes and fee leved on airline tickets.

In fact, there were no vehicles - there was no EPA.

Again, supposed to be funded through gas taxes and vehicle fees.

There was no NTSB.

Again, gas taxes.

There was no air force.

OK, got me there.

In fact, all the troops were drafted, so they could be paid sh!t.

They still are paid sh!t.

There was no SEC - look how it brought everything down in 1929.

I just love the myths about the stock market crash and the depression caused mostly by the protectionist laws that followed.

There was no terrorism, there was no money-sucking UN.

Pancho Villa and the League of Nations, anyone?

Enough yet?

Not even close enough to explain away the nearly 60% of my income that gets pissed away in all state, federal and local taxes and fees each year, much less explain the vast majority of taxes listed in the original post.

The fact of the matter is, a very large chunk of our budgets, both state and federal, are pissed away on entitlement programs. NOT services (military excluded)

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Check It Out ---


What do you think changed?

The Great Depression and the social/welfare programs created by Roosevelt?

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Elemental007
100 years ago, there were no real roads. There was no public school system, and for the most part, it ended at 8th grade. There was no social security or medicare. We used our military for primarily defensive purposes and weren't paying billions on research. There was no space program - no money goes to NASA. In fact, there were no airplanes. This means no FAA. In fact, there were no vehicles - there was no EPA. There was no NTSB. There was no air force. In fact, all the troops were drafted, so they could be paid sh!t. There was no SEC - look how it brought everything down in 1929. There was no terrorism, there was no money-sucking UN.

Enough yet?

Aaaah. Those were the days. 🙂

 

[Zenmervolt]

Washing machine?

It still takes the bulk of one day to do two week's laundry. But instead of being active while doing that, I sit and am bored or I numb my mind with that crap called television. All-in-all, better to work for it.

Dryer?

Clothesline and a wringer. Less damaging to the clothes anyway, and it doesn't require more effort on my part, just a bit more time.

Automatic dishwasher?

No big deal if you do the dishes after every meal.

Freezer (I can see an icebox being a fridge, however, it's not the same)

Milkman for the perishables. Smoking or salting for meats. There are other means of preservation than freezing. And there were gas fridges by 1903.

Microwaves?

The microwave is a piece of crap anyway. Nothing made in a microwave tastes good.

Reliable AC electricity?

By 1903? Yeah it was pretty reliable.

Air conditioning (living in Texas would SUCK)?

No, one would just get used to it. We've actually gotten pretty tender now that we control the temperature all the time.

Food costing a fraction of an hourly wage?

Sure. Make it yourself. It's still cheaper to fix your own meals than it is to go to a cheap place like McDonald's.

Automobiles?

Almost. Model T came around in 1908 and it was purchaseable by the common man.

Paved roads?

Un-necessary for the automobiles of the time.

Air transit?

I don't even need this now. As far as I'm concerned, air travel is one of those nice little things that really isn't all that necessary except in the sense that it saves time at the expense of comfort and style.

Don't even get me started on other entertainment factors, such as TV/internet/movies/etc.....

Books, are far more entertaining than any modern entertainment device. And movies did exist in 1903.

ZV

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Check It Out ---


What do you think changed?

The Great Depression and the social/welfare programs created by Roosevelt?

Not to mention the (not so) "Great Society" programs of LBJ. What a waste.

Actually, the "New Deal" created SS. It was LBJ's "Great Society" that created the Welfare State.

 

[Daxxax]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Elemental007
100 years ago, there were no real roads. There was no public school system, and for the most part, it ended at 8th grade. There was no social security or medicare. We used our military for primarily defensive purposes and weren't paying billions on research. There was no space program - no money goes to NASA. In fact, there were no airplanes. This means no FAA. In fact, there were no vehicles - there was no EPA. There was no NTSB. There was no air force. In fact, all the troops were drafted, so they could be paid sh!t. There was no SEC - look how it brought everything down in 1929. There was no terrorism, there was no money-sucking UN.

Enough yet?

And overall the world was a much nicer place to live in for just about eveyone.....who cares if you died younger and medical science wasn't that advanced, at least while you were alive there were actually things to appreciate, enjoy, and remember. Everyone needs to go to all the history museums they can and see all that we are missing today....we have more technology and tangible goods than any point in history yet we don't possess anywhere near as much as generations of yore did.

I'm sorry, I don't beleive in the "good old days" theory. I don't think people were happier back then. It's all relative. People use to work 12 hour shifts/6 days a week in factories. They'd lose a finger, hand or whatever and would be at work the next day.

 

[NogginBoink]

What changed? Simple. The government started spending more and more money.

And the citizens sit back and do nothing while their elected representatives pass more spending bills.