Tax breaks for the rich, yet no tax breaks for teachers to buy supplies -CNN

[ReiAyanami]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCAT...supplies.ap/index.html

this comes on top of the other thread in which teachers were getting cut all together. remember the good ol days of 40 students per classroom? (early 90's dawg, 35+ in my classes both TX & cali)

 

[ReiAyanami]

"And the worst thing about it all is that it's the kids who end up suffering the most."

Fortunately poor children will be given tax vouchers to attend private schools they still can't afford.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
"And the worst thing about it all is that it's the kids who end up suffering the most."

Fortunately poor children will be given tax vouchers to attend private schools they still can't afford.

Oh no they won't - can't have them mingling with the rich liberals' kids there.

 

[daveshel]

Something's trickling down.

 

[Todd33]

Fooking whiney kids and their 'education'. Give me my tax cut, I'm in the top 10% for sure, I deserve more money!!

 

[cKGunslinger]

All this suggests to me is that the federal government really has no place in the public education business. Even some of the most well-funded schools (like D.C.'s ~$13k per student) still produce abysmal results. Money is obviously not the ultimate answer.


Also, how you managed to blame this on Bush and his "tax breaks for the rich" is quite

 

[lordtyranus]

It's a state issue, not a federal one.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fooking whiney kids and their 'education'. Give me my tax cut, I'm in the top 10% for sure, I deserve more money!!

And some people think you're a troll!! Where do they get that idea!?!?

 

[Rob9874]

I'm a conservative who definitely think teachers should be able to deduct supplies from their taxes. Now, they can deduct it as business expense, so that was never taken away. But if they don't own a house or have kids, and don't itemize (usually the criteria for itemizing), then they wouldn't be able to deduct it.

However, this is another example of liberal spin. The article states, "Nationwide, teachers spent an average of $458 on school supplies." Assuming the average teacher pays 30% in taxes, that would be a reduction in taxes of $137. The same liberals who rolled their eyes over Bush's $300 tax refund are now crying because teachers can't get back $137. :roll:

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fooking whiney kids and their 'education'. Give me my tax cut, I'm in the top 10% for sure, I deserve more money!!

And some people think you're a troll!! Where do they get that idea!?!?

You have a problem? I can respond with on topic sarcasm if I so please. You either don't know what a troll is or are just starting sh!t. You can go search for the threads I started and tell me if they are 'trolling'. They are not.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
It's a state issue, not a federal one.

True and the Feds need to stop putting requirements on the states that the Feds are not willing to back up.

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
All this suggests to me is that the federal government really has no place in the public education business. Even some of the most well-funded schools (like D.C.'s ~$13k per student) still produce abysmal results. Money is obviously not the ultimate answer.

Money is of course not the only answer. Just pouring money blindly into a hole is always a waste. But there are definite correlations between eductional outcomes and such factors as class size, library resources and special ed programs, all of which cost money.

Thing is, sometimes money from higher levels of governments get pounced upon by over-powerful teachers unions who want higher wages or local trustees who would rather build shiny scoreboards.

I'm neccessarily against spending on those two things, and in some regions increased teacher's salaries could be a good thing, but it's a matter of setting the proper priorities. IIRC, I think I saw a study done here in Ontario where those boards who already had the highest incomes vis a vis living expenses had a tendency to also get higher salary increases. Anecdotally, this is not neccessarily due to labour market supply competition either. My sister works in the lowest-paid board in my province, yet the board right next door is #2 or 3. This is in the area surrounding Toronto, so it's not like it's a spread-out rural region.

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fooking whiney kids and their 'education'. Give me my tax cut, I'm in the top 10% for sure, I deserve more money!!

You mean like your friend, John Kerry? He paid only 15% of his income last year. Is that what you are aspiring to do Todd? Pay less as you earn more? Sounds like the libs become more conservative fiscally as they earn more.

Oh the irony!!

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Gravity

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fooking whiney kids and their 'education'. Give me my tax cut, I'm in the top 10% for sure, I deserve more money!!

You mean like your friend, John Kerry? He paid only 15% of his income last year. Is that what you are aspiring to do Todd? Pay less as you earn more? Sounds like the libs become more conservative fiscally as they earn more.

Oh the irony!!

Huh? 22%, 12% and now 15%? My reply was tongue in cheek, I'm not sure what you were going for. I've always been fiscally conservative. I think the budget should be balanced, not a $450B deficit like the spend and spend Republicans.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Gravity

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fooking whiney kids and their 'education'. Give me my tax cut, I'm in the top 10% for sure, I deserve more money!!

You mean like your friend, John Kerry? He paid only 15% of his income last year. Is that what you are aspiring to do Todd? Pay less as you earn more? Sounds like the libs become more conservative fiscally as they earn more.

Oh the irony!!

Excuse me. Prove that is is strictly a Rich Democrat issue of only Dems paying 12-15% of their income.

You can take to the bank there is just as many guilty Neocons.

for those trying to pass this as strictly a Rich Lib problem.