Taser!

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I'll be really disappointed in ATOT if there are no chopped photos when I come back.
 

tyler811

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Looks painful


If you have a heart condition can this make you have a heart attack?
 
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I actually want to be shocked by one, to see if I can withstand it.

There should be people in this world who can stand up to a few shots
 

Jeff7

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So what does it do? Painful muscle spasms, or something of the sort? What's the nature of the pain it causes?
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I actually want to be shocked by one, to see if I can withstand it.

There should be people in this world who can stand up to a few shots

It works by overriding your brain's control of your muscles. Assuming you get a good hit, you won't be doing much. The more muscle you have, the more effective it is.
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
So what does it do? Painful muscle spasms, or something of the sort? What's the nature of the pain it causes?

The best explanation I've come up with so far is this:

Tense your entire body as hard as you can. Now, imagine that, but twice as powerful - pulsing through your body at 19 times per second for five seconds. You're completely immobilized. I hesitate to call it 'pain' - it's different than what I expected. Extremely uncomfortable...and I suppose it's painful in a sense of the word, but not how I expected. It is very difficult to describe. The Taser (we have the Taser X26) sends electricity at the same wavelength that your brain uses to control voluntary muscle movement, and it completely overrides the brain's capability to control your muscles.
 

Jeff7

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I had that happen once - I was unconscious though. Antidepressant-induced seizure. :p
But damn I was sore for a few days afterward.

Is there any lingering soreness?

I don't know that "wavelength" is the right term for electricity, though. Maybe just that it's pulsed at a certain frequency or something like that, or else that it's just at a sufficient power level that it does a "brute force" override. Kind of like when you get a shock from a wall outlet, and you happen to be gripping something. The electricity from the wall causes your muscles to contract, and it's so powerful that your own body's electrical system can't overpower it.


Still, it sounds (and looks) like loads of fun. (And I too hope it will be for our resident photoshoppers. :D)
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
I had that happen once - I was unconscious though. Antidepressant-induced seizure. :p
But damn I was sore for a few days afterward.

Is there any lingering soreness?

I don't know that "wavelength" is the right term for electricity, though. Maybe just that it's pulsed at a certain frequency or something like that, or else that it's just at a sufficient power level that it does a "brute force" override. Kind of like when you get a shock from a wall outlet, and you happen to be gripping something. The electricity from the wall causes your muscles to contract, and it's so powerful that your own body's electrical system can't overpower it.


Still, it sounds (and looks) like loads of fun. (And I too hope it will be for our resident photoshoppers. :D)

I don't know if it's the right word either, but it (Taser) works quite well. Perhaps frequency is correct..I'm not an electrician - as long as it works, that's all that matters. :p
 

ni4ni

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: tyler811
Looks painful


If you have a heart condition can this make you have a heart attack?

Nope.

That isn't entirely true. At our department, we have an officer who has a pacemaker. He could not qualify to carry the TASER because it could possibly mess it up. We had a guy who had a heart condition come into the ER while I was working who had been "Tased." He had a MI as a result. Really depends on the situation and the degree of existing heart damage.

FYI, I have not qualified for the TASER.

 

jlee

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Originally posted by: ni4ni
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: tyler811
Looks painful


If you have a heart condition can this make you have a heart attack?

Nope.

That isn't entirely true. At our department, we have an officer who has a pacemaker. He could not qualify to carry the TASER because it could possibly mess it up. We had a guy who had a heart condition come into the ER while I was working who had been "Tased." He had a MI as a result. Really depends on the situation and the degree of existing heart damage.

FYI, I have not qualified for the TASER.

Our instructor said it won't mess with a pacemaker...hm.
 

arrfep

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I know very little about electricity, so pardon the ignorance. How come the people holding a taser test-subject don't get shocked? Doesn't a human body conduct electricity?
 

ni4ni

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: ni4ni
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: tyler811
Looks painful


If you have a heart condition can this make you have a heart attack?

Nope.

That isn't entirely true. At our department, we have an officer who has a pacemaker. He could not qualify to carry the TASER because it could possibly mess it up. We had a guy who had a heart condition come into the ER while I was working who had been "Tased." He had a MI as a result. Really depends on the situation and the degree of existing heart damage.

FYI, I have not qualified for the TASER.

Our instructor said it won't mess with a pacemaker...hm.


Truth be told, it may not. Sometimes people have problems and blame it on them. But I know if I had a pacemaker, I sure wouldn't want to be shot with one. LOL
 
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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I actually want to be shocked by one, to see if I can withstand it.

There should be people in this world who can stand up to a few shots

It works by overriding your brain's control of your muscles. Assuming you get a good hit, you won't be doing much. The more muscle you have, the more effective it is.

Lies. With enough will, the mind can defeat anything :p
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I actually want to be shocked by one, to see if I can withstand it.

There should be people in this world who can stand up to a few shots

It works by overriding your brain's control of your muscles. Assuming you get a good hit, you won't be doing much. The more muscle you have, the more effective it is.

Lies. With enough will, the mind can defeat anything :p

You're welcome to try.. :evil:
 

BladeVenom

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: tyler811
Looks painful


If you have a heart condition can this make you have a heart attack?

Nope.

There's been dozens of cases where someone with heart disease or on drugs have died after being tasered.
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: tyler811
Looks painful


If you have a heart condition can this make you have a heart attack?

Nope.

There's been dozens of cases where someone with heart disease or on drugs have died after being tasered.

Do you have any info on a case which a Taser was clinically proven to be the sole cause of death - where stress from the incident/etc had nothing to do with it? I'd like to hear about anything you can find. :)