Talk about a let down

Ryland

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I was all set to step my 260 192 core Superclocked up to a 260 55nm SSC when I found out I can only step up to vanilla cards. Im assuming that would be a decent framerate drop even though it has the additional cores.
 

Ryland

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I really don't OC any of the components in my machine beyond what they come from the factory because I use it for too many different things (media extender, tv recorder, game play, etc).

I do need to RMA the card instead since I am having weird screen blanking issues with it.
 

OCGuy

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All EVGA does is flash the BIOS. You can do a moderate core OC yourself with Precision Tuner and you will be fine.
 

toyota

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unless you are only paying 20-25 bucks then its not worth stepping up to a 216sp from your 192sp anyway.
 

Ryland

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The fact that I will effectively lose the $30 rebate on this doesn't help. As it stands I paid $250 for the 192 before a $30 rebate but I have $25 in evga bucks so that means I "paid" $245 and the vanilla is $270 so I would be paying $25+shipping both ways to go from a 192 Superclocked to a 216 vanilla.

If I don't step the card up then I am going to RMA it for various issues I have had. What is the chance that eVGA would ship a 216 for my RMA replacement?
 

MrK6

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Originally posted by: Ryland
I really don't OC any of the components in my machine beyond what they come from the factory because I use it for too many different things (media extender, tv recorder, game play, etc).

I do need to RMA the card instead since I am having weird screen blanking issues with it.
Do you think EVGA does anything different that would make their overclock better than one you did yourself?
 

PCTC2

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Originally posted by: HOOfan 1
since the 192 is no longer made, it is a distinct possibility

You'd be surprised about their B-stock they have. They had 7900GT's for a while. I shipped in my 7950GT and got an 8800GT back. 8800GT's haven't been on the market in a long time.

I have used their step up, Standard RMA, and EAR programs many times, and have to say their customer service is one of the best. Always fast, and as long as you follow their policy, you get treated well, as you can see with my nice 8800GT when my 2.5 year old 7950GT just started artifacting. Sure, you can only get the vanilla, but they're doing you a service at buying your old card back at the retail price YOU paid. I step up'd an 8600GT to an 8800GTS G92. It was nice to have that option.
 

Ryland

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Well I shipped them a PCI 5200 and the replacement should be sitting at my house now so I wonder what they shipped back.

I understand the stepup can be a nice thing but it would have been nice to have been able to step up to any of their cards. I missed that it was only to vanilla's originally which wouldn't really be a "step up" for me.

Edit: They shipped an FX5200 back (which is what I shipped them).
 

Ryland

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Originally posted by: MrK6
Originally posted by: Ryland
I really don't OC any of the components in my machine beyond what they come from the factory because I use it for too many different things (media extender, tv recorder, game play, etc).

I do need to RMA the card instead since I am having weird screen blanking issues with it.
Do you think EVGA does anything different that would make their overclock better than one you did yourself?

eVGA's overclock is warrantied.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Ryland
Originally posted by: MrK6
Originally posted by: Ryland
I really don't OC any of the components in my machine beyond what they come from the factory because I use it for too many different things (media extender, tv recorder, game play, etc).

I do need to RMA the card instead since I am having weird screen blanking issues with it.
Do you think EVGA does anything different that would make their overclock better than one you did yourself?

eVGA's overclock is warrantied.

eVGA covers your own overclocks as well ;)
 

Ryland

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Ryland
Originally posted by: MrK6
Originally posted by: Ryland
I really don't OC any of the components in my machine beyond what they come from the factory because I use it for too many different things (media extender, tv recorder, game play, etc).

I do need to RMA the card instead since I am having weird screen blanking issues with it.
Do you think EVGA does anything different that would make their overclock better than one you did yourself?

eVGA's overclock is warrantied.

eVGA covers your own overclocks as well ;)

oh, to what extent?
 

QuantumPion

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FYI this has always been the case with evga's step-up. You never could step-up to a limited availability card, e.g. 8800gtx ultra, or overclocked editions.
 

Ryland

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
FYI this has always been the case with evga's step-up. You never could step-up to a limited availability card, e.g. 8800gtx ultra, or overclocked editions.

I see that now. I assumed that you could step up to any card (otherwise if you already had the vanilla of their current top of the line card you couldn't step up to anything).
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Ryland
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Ryland
Originally posted by: MrK6
Originally posted by: Ryland
I really don't OC any of the components in my machine beyond what they come from the factory because I use it for too many different things (media extender, tv recorder, game play, etc).

I do need to RMA the card instead since I am having weird screen blanking issues with it.
Do you think EVGA does anything different that would make their overclock better than one you did yourself?

eVGA's overclock is warrantied.

eVGA covers your own overclocks as well ;)

oh, to what extent?

The same as running it stock. They even supply the tool to do the OC (Precision Tuner).

 

Ryland

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Even with that its probably still not worth the ~$40 it will cost me for the step up, right?
 

Ryland

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Well I already have the 260 192core Superclocked which is stock overclocked. I guess I will start that RMA up.
 

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As others stated, overclocking is covered by EVGA under warranty, although overclocked cards typically have a modified BIOS with higher voltages. They're planning to release a Windows utility that allows you to adjust these voltages too.

Not being able to step-up to factory OC models has been a consistent with EVGA, however, if you do decide to step-up, the value of your original card isn't lost, it just gets applied to your step-up. If you stepped-up to a SSC or whatever, you would end up having to pay more regardless.

Depending on how much it costs you, I'd go with the core 216 step-up given you need to RMA anyways. Again, RMA means you're getting B-stock, potentially a new card, but most likely a card that was already sent in for RMA and refurbished. With step-up you'll get a new card. The 55nm parts don't overclock that much better, but you should still be able to hit SSC speeds without any effort.
 

Ryland

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I was just trackin reviews down on the 55nm cards and one of them stated that the 55nm cards are a few millimeters longer than the 65nm cards (although everybody else I have talked to say they are the same exact length). A longer card won't fit into my case since I have only a few millimeters of room between the end of the card and the drive cage.
 

chizow

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It really shouldn't be, which review said that? I know the GTX 280 was slightly larger than my 8800GTX due to the full shroud, difference was about 2mm or so maybe.
 

PCTC2

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Originally posted by: Ryland
I was just trackin reviews down on the 55nm cards and one of them stated that the 55nm cards are a few millimeters longer than the 65nm cards (although everybody else I have talked to say they are the same exact length). A longer card won't fit into my case since I have only a few millimeters of room between the end of the card and the drive cage.

I don't have a 65nm version to compare it to, but I know it's taller. There's a little jut-out of the PCB toward the back.