Taliban: Osama alive and well

[Stunt]

Are we ever going to catch this guy? Is he a face of terrorism to continue a feeling of terror in the world? Thoughts?

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Taliban: Osama alive, well
By SADAQAT JAN - Associated Press

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) ? Osama bin Laden is alive and in good health, as is fugitive Taliban chief Mullah Mohammed Omar, a purported senior commander of the ousted Afghan religious militia said in a TV interview broadcast Wednesday.

Pakistan?s Geo television broadcast the interview with a man it identified as Taliban military commander Mullah Akhtar Usmani, a former Afghan aviation minister who said he still receives instructions from Omar.

Asked whether bin Laden is hiding in areas of Afghanistan that are under Taliban control, the man said he would not specify where the terrorist mastermind was hiding.

?Thanks be to God, he is absolutely fine,? the man said.

The man wore a black turban to shield his face, making it impossible to recognize him or verify his identity. He wore a gray jacket, and an AK-47 rifle was propped next to him as he spoke in front of a red-patterned, Afghan-style rug.

Geo said the interview was recorded last week, but declined to say where.

A senior journalist at the independent station said on condition of anonymity that the interview was done near the Afghan town of Spinboldak, which is close to the Pakistani border.

The interview was conducted in broken Urdu, Pakistan?s main language and the language in which Geo broadcasts most of its programs. Most senior Taliban speak Pashtu.

The man said the Taliban are still organized and senior Taliban leaders hold regular consultations.

?Our discipline is strong. We have regular meetings. We make programs,? the man said.

He said Omar does not attend the meetings but ?decisions come from his side.? He did not say where those meetings take place.

In speaking about Omar, the man referred to the Taliban chief by his self-proclaimed title of ?ameerul momineen? ? ?leader of the faithful.?

?Ameerul momineen is our chief and leader. No one is against him. Our ameerul momineen is alive. He is all right. There is no problem. He is not sick. He is my commander. He gives me instructions,? the man said.

Asked whether he has direct contact with Omar, the man said: ?I will not say whether I meet with him or not. But he is giving instructions.?

A U.S.-led coalition ousted the Taliban in late 2001. The offensive was launched after the Taliban refused to hand over bin Laden and dismantle al-Qaida bases in Afghanistan after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States.

 

[morkinva]

He's the face of terrorism they want you to see. Do you honestly think they could not have found this guy alive or dead by now?

Stop being so naive people, cripes.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: morkinva
He's the face of terrorism they want you to see. Do you honestly think they could not have found this guy alive or dead by now?

Stop being so naive people, cripes.

Where did I say we couldn't find the guy?

 

[homercles337]

Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

You think if we plopped 150,000 troops in Afghanistan it will increase our odds of finding him?

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

You think if we plopped 150,000 troops in Afghanistan it will increase our odds of finding him?

Simply put......YES!!

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

You think if we plopped 150,000 troops in Afghanistan it will increase our odds of finding him?

Simply put......YES!!

Based on what?

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

A LOT of people are VERY outraged about this. What rock have you been hiding under?

 

[imported_Stratago]

It doesn't seem like anyone conciders the possiblity that he is just smarter than us. And for fear of treason I certainly do not think that could possibly be the case at all.

 

[1EZduzit]

One things for sure, the odds of finding Osama are way better then the odds of finding WMD's in Iraq!! :laugh:

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

You think if we plopped 150,000 troops in Afghanistan it will increase our odds of finding him?

Simply put......YES!!

.


Why?


Ever looked at the terrain and population of the area.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Are we ever going to catch this guy?

Is he a face of terrorism to continue a feeling of terror in the world? Thoughts?

We??? Why does a Canadian care so much?

Did Canada declare War on Osama? The U.S. didn't.

We got our man remember, his name is Saddam.

 

[irwincur]

Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

We have about the same amount of people looking for him now as we did at the outset of the war in Afghanistan. It is not about the amount of people you have, but the skills that they bring. I doubt that many of the special forces trained for mountain work were shipped to Iraq - actually I know for a fact that they have not moved. The Rangers who are most responsible for mountain combat are still there and have never moved. This whole Iraq war thing is using 5% of our total available forces, there are plenty of men to do other things.

Why haven't they - because it causes a logistical nightmare.

Now, why not bring in more? Why. Odds are OBL is in Pakistan, in locations where even the Pakistan military refuses to go. Furthermore, sending American troops in there would do nothing but elevate local issues. He is surrounded, he is not effective at this time, he is on the run.


Side note to those that complain about the number of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan...

There are 13 out of 76 total deployed active combat brigades in the ME. Less than 10 of them are actually in Iraq. This includes Guard but not Reserve numbers. Does not include the Air Force or Navy.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Side note to those that complain about the number of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan...

There are 13 out of 76 total deployed active combat brigades in the ME. Less than 10 of them are actually in Iraq. This includes Guard but not Reserve numbers. Does not include the Air Force or Navy.

So what's your point? Do you want more troops over there?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

You think if we plopped 150,000 troops in Afghanistan it will increase our odds of finding him?

Maybe if we had dropped those 150,000 troops in September/October 2001....

 

[Drift3r]

Wait before this goes any further who is wrong ? Genx87 who says we cant find him or morkinva who says we can find him ?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

You think if we plopped 150,000 troops in Afghanistan it will increase our odds of finding him?

Maybe if we had dropped those 150,000 troops in September/October 2001....

How do you suggest we move 150,000 troops in less than a month?

Think they dont need to eat or something?

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

You think if we plopped 150,000 troops in Afghanistan it will increase our odds of finding him?

Maybe if we had dropped those 150,000 troops in September/October 2001....

How do you suggest we move 150,000 troops in less than a month?

Think they dont need to eat or something?

we should just feed them aborted fetuses - it's all the rage!

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Drift3r
Wait before this goes any further who is wrong ? Genx87 who says we cant find him or morkinva who says we can find him ?

Please show me where I said "we cant find him".

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

You think if we plopped 150,000 troops in Afghanistan it will increase our odds of finding him?

Maybe if we had dropped those 150,000 troops in September/October 2001....

How do you suggest we move 150,000 troops in less than a month?

Think they dont need to eat or something?

The point is, we should have started sending troops to Afghanistan, immediately following the attacks Sept 11th, 2001 and in far greater numbers that we did.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: homercles337
Of course we cant find him. My thanks goes to dumbYa for dropping the ball in Afghanistan to fight an unnecessray war in Iraq. Why arent more people out raged about this?

You think if we plopped 150,000 troops in Afghanistan it will increase our odds of finding him?

Maybe if we had dropped those 150,000 troops in September/October 2001....

How do you suggest we move 150,000 troops in less than a month?

Think they dont need to eat or something?

The point is, we should have started sending troops to Afghanistan, immediately following the attacks Sept 11th, 2001 and in far greater numbers that we did.

In ones and twos?

You apparently dont understand the logistics involved with planning a full scale invasion.
And placing more troops in the country isnt necessarily the answer, especially since he probably went to Pakistan soon after we did show up.

 

[Colonel C]

Even if they did kill Osama, the odds are that terrorism would just increase in the Islamic world. He would be seen as a martyr, you can't destroy terrorism using military force, and thats fact. Its like trying to change people opinions by killing there leader.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Elvis is alive and well too. People claim to see him all the time.

So go find him.

 

[StormRider]

People who claim that we could have found him if we wanted to are crazy. We still haven't found Natalee yet and it's just a tiny island and the whole island was looking for her.

It's not as easy as you think.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Now, why not bring in more? Why. Odds are OBL is in Pakistan, in locations where even the Pakistan military refuses to go. Furthermore, sending American troops in there would do nothing but elevate local issues. He is surrounded, he is not effective at this time, he is on the run.

Now I don't have any problem with your assessment that OBL is in Pakistan -- he most likely is. But the rest of your statement is such a huge ASSumption, I can't even believe those words came out of your mouth. Possibly the most dangerous thing we could do, is to underestimate the capabilities of OBL and by extension, al Qaeda. If you recall that's what we did in the late 90s/early 00s and we all know what happened as a result . . .