Taliban is evil.

CyrixMII333

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Here is a quote I taken from what they have learned so far.
When the Taliban ? a band of warrior students ? swept into Kabul five years ago, it imposed a ruthless Islamic rule. It brought peace to the city, but the world was outraged by its practices, including public executions and a ban on work for women and schooling for girls. Music, TV and photographs were prohibited, and men were forced to grow beards.
 

kru

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*gasp*

that was a stunning new revelation. a unique perspective never before considered. a complete waste of time and bandwidth.
 

etech

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Womn's right under the Taliban


cs.rutgers.edu/
Melissa Buckheit
Brandeis University

The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women. The situation is getting so bad that one person in an editorial of the times compared the treatment of women there to the treatment of Jews in pre-holocaust Poland. Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their eyes.

One woman was beaten to DEATH by an angry mob of fundamentalists for accidentally exposing her arm while she was driving. Another was stoned to death for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a relative. Women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male relative; professional women such as professors, translators, doctors, lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and stuffed into their homes, so that depression is becoming so widespread that it has reached emergency levels.

There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society to know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers are estimating that the suicide rate among women, who cannot find proper medication and treatment for severe depression and would rather take their lives than live in such conditions, has increased significantly.

Homes where a woman is present must have their windows painted so that she can never be seen by outsiders. They must wear silent shoes so that
they are never heard. Women live in fear of their lives for the slightest misbehavior. Because they cannot work, those without male relatives or husbands are either starving to death or begging on the street, even if they hold Ph.D.'s.

There are almost no medical facilities available for women, and relief workers, in protest, have mostly left the country, taking medicine and psychologists and other things necessary to treat the sky-rocketing level of depression among women.

At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat or do anything, but are slowly wasting away. Others have gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or crying, most of them in fear. One doctor is considering, when what little medication that is left finally runs out, leaving these women in front of the president's residence as a form of peaceful protest.

It is at the point where the term 'human rights violations' have become an understatement.

Husbands have the power of life and death over their women relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or offending them in the slightest way.

David Cornwell has told me that we in the United States should not judge the Afghan people for such treatment because it is a 'cultural thing',but this is not even true. Women enjoyed relative freedom, to work, dress generally as they wanted, and drive and appear in public alone until only 1996 -- the rapidity of this transition is the main reason for the depression and suicide; women who were once educators or doctors or simply used to basic human freedoms are now severely restricted and treated as sub-human in the name of right-wing fundamentalist Islam. It is not their tradition or 'culture', but is alien to them, and it is extreme even for those cultures where fundamentalism is the rule. Besides, if we could excuse everything on cultural grounds, then we should not be appalled that the Carthaginians sacrificed their infant children, that little girls are circumcised in parts of Africa, that blacks in the deep south in the 1930's were lynched, prohibited from voting and forced to submit to unjust Jim Crow laws.

Everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are women in a Muslim country in a part of the world that Americans do not understand.

If we can threaten military force in Kosovo in the name of human rights for the sake of ethnic Albanians, Americans can certainly express peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice committed against women by the Taliban.
 

tcsenter

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<< Husbands have the power of life and death over their women relatives, especially their wives, >>

According to the customs of some Afghan tribes, those which parallel the extremist Taliban customs and practices, a woman who is suspected by her husband of committing adultery must put her judgement in "Allah's" hands. A cleric or elder will ordain a judgement ceremony, which will determine if the accused woman is guilty or innocent. If she is guilty, her husband may kill her, and it needn't be humanely.

The 'judgement' ceremony often entails some bizarre 'test', often involving fire (trial by fire). In one tribal ceremony, the woman is force to touch her tongue to a metal object which has been heated over a flame. If her tongue blisters from the heat, she is guilty and executed. If it does not blister, she is proclaimed innocent by cleric and may breathe a sigh of relief...until the next time she is accused.

 

hungrypete

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<< *gasp*

that was a stunning new revelation. a unique perspective never before considered. a complete waste of time and bandwidth.
>>



Jackass.

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Yeah, the Taliban are pretty harsh, but hey what do i know, I'm just a stupid Westerner who deserves to die. Wouldn't bother me at all if America executed every Taliban leader.
 

Brutuskend

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<< The 'judgement' ceremony often entails some bizarre 'test', often involving fire (trial by fire). In one tribal ceremony, the woman is force to touch her tongue to a metal object which has been heated over a flame. If her tongue blisters from the heat, she is guilty and executed. If it does not blister, she is proclaimed innocent by cleric and may breathe a sigh of relief...until the next time she is accused >>



Strange test (and sick) but I can see how it might work. Under stress and lying wouldn't your mouth dry out? If your telling the truth it wouldn't, and your "spit" would keep your tounge from being burned. Early "polly" test, crude but effective.

Don't get me wrog. These FVckers are sick and wrong, but it is kind of an ingenious test.
 

Aelus

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Yes, they're an evil regime, but you've got to look at their merits too, (as little as there are): there's no more civil war in the part of the country they occupy, and they've completely destroyed crime...

but at what incredible cost...

Aelus
 

burnedout

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It is at the point where the term 'human rights violations' have become an understatement

It isn't just the Taliban. Ninety percent of the Middle East is a human rights violation.

Brings to mind a story on 20/20 a couple of years ago.

Seems the FBI had some Syrian man in the Detroit area under watch. Taping this guy's activities as he was a suspected terrorist. Older man. Probably in his mid 50s. Well, the Syrian man became extremely upset his 17 year old daughter had hired on at McDonalds. She also wanted to let her hair down, so to speak. So he murdered her.

Because the FBI only checked the recordings at the Syrian man's residence weekly, they were slow to find out of the murder. Once they discovered the crime, they arrested, tried and convicted him. Sentenced him to life. In an interview from prison, he defended the decision to murder his daughter equating it with some religious and cultural obligations. Felt he was perfectly justified as she had become corrupt.