taliban execute woman for having an affair *nsfw*

[IEC]

Afghanistan and its people are a lost cause.

 

[pelov]

If executions were filmed here in the US, especially the ones that don’t work the first or second time, such as electric chair, hanging, gas chamber, lethal injection and firing squad, Afghanistan would probably be calling our methods barbaric and cruel. Why are our methods better than theirs? It is required that a person be jailed for many years (at tax payers expense) to allow them every possible legal means to get out like we have here? How many people here get away with crimes including murder (remember OJ Simpson)? Our legal system is extremely corrupt and there is a lot to say for the way they handle things in Afghanistan.

Yes, no justice system is perfect and there are going to be cracks.

But you're forgetting something...

We don't knowingly execute adulterers.

It's a matter of pursuing the best justice system and improving it. To claim that they're on equal footing is asinine.

 

[OlafSicky]

So why would you cheat if you could die because of it?

 

[Nebor]

So why would you cheat if you could die because of it?

They usually don't. Adultery is just the easiest crime to accuse a woman of in order to have her killed.

 

[William Gaatjes]

The one thing the Taliban got right was ending the opium trade. No worries though, the Golden Triangle picked up the slack and kept the Myanmar junta rolling in dough for decades.

Funny how the Golden Triangle dried up the second we stepped foot in Afghanistan. CIA had the Afghan poppy farmers and drug lords up and running again in no time.

So, if you want to get mad, get mad at your own government for doing nothing about the drugs there, while the Taliban 100% stomped that shit out.

What i have learned that indeed that was the case once which you described... That the taliban was against the tribes and gangs that where in the poppy plant (papaver somniferum) business.
But that is not the case anymore, it seems.
The taliban are now supporters of the heroin trade it seems.
And i know about western world not helping Afghan farmers. Since these farmers want to make money to support the family and pay for the "security" (mafia practices) and are usually forced as well, the farmers grow the poppy plant. The big question is, if the pharmaceutical companies needs opium as well to sell : Where is this opium coming from ? Is it from legal parties or not ?
Iran is never in the news when it comes to stopping the opium and heroin trade. In Russia a big group of user of heroin are found.

 

[Baptismbyfire]

Afghanistan is just another major disaster on the scale of Iraq, with most of the money set aside for the Afghanistan public actually ending up in the hands of Taliban, local warlords, corrupt government officials (extending all the way to the family of the Afghanistan president himself), and American corporations in no-bid contracts. Nothing good has come of it, and it has only helped to bankrupt America.

 

[Nebor]

Afghanistan is just another major disaster on the scale of Iraq, with most of the money set aside for the Afghanistan public actually ending up in the hands of Taliban, local warlords, corrupt government officials (extending all the way to the family of the Afghanistan president himself), and American corporations in no-bid contracts. Nothing good has come of it, and it has only helped to bankrupt America.

Even if 100% of the money made it to it's intended projects, it'd still be a waste. Everything we build will either be razed by insurgents or destroyed by the negligence of the people we aim to help.

 

[Broheim]

Afghanistan and its people are a lost cause.

yup, Afghanistan was going place prior to the soviet invasion but after decades of medival style assbackwardness it looks like it's going to be another few centuries before they're ready to try and rejoin the rest of the world.

 

[Nebor]

yup, Afghanistan was going place prior to the soviet invasion but after decades of medival style assbackwardness it looks like it's going to be another few centuries before they're ready to try and rejoin the rest of the world.

Agreed. We should have just bombed their airports into oblivion and run SOF & drone missions to take out terrorist training camps. Isolate them in their own self-created shit until they get tired of living that way and change it. We're just rolling around in the shit with them at this point.

 

[thejunglegod]

What these people need is some good quality education. I don't know how killing in the name of God is justifiable by any means. That poor woman.

 

[Baptismbyfire]

Even if 100% of the money made it to it's intended projects, it'd still be a waste. Everything we build will either be razed by insurgents or destroyed by the negligence of the people we aim to help.

The only way to eliminate terrorism would be to isolate the terrorists from their society through economic development and education. However, it is easier said than done, and I would imagine it takes years, if not decades, to make any significant advances. However, what the US has done is to impose their rule with an iron fist and with little regard for the welfare of the people. They just shoved money into all the wrong pockets, while totally disregarding the social fabric of the country, including how the society actually works. In the typical Western mindset, they thought that money would solve everything. To make matters worse, you had marines committing some heinous acts like wholesale butchery and rape of the civilian population, which never helps.

 

[KMFJD]

What i have learned that indeed that was the case once which you described... That the taliban was against the tribes and gangs that where in the poppy plant (papaver somniferum) business.
But that is not the case anymore, it seems.
The taliban are now supporters of the heroin trade it seems.
And i know about western world not helping Afghan farmers. Since these farmers want to make money to support the family and pay for the "security" (mafia practices) and are usually forced as well, the farmers grow the poppy plant. The big question is, if the pharmaceutical companies needs opium as well to sell : Where is this opium coming from ? Is it from legal parties or not ?
Iran is never in the news when it comes to stopping the opium and heroin trade. In Russia a big group of user of heroin are found.

Tasmania is the worlds largest producer of Pharmacutical Opium

 

[Vdubchaos]

I think what is really disturbing is the fact that our country has been doing business/helping these kind of people for MANY decades.

I'm not just talking Afghanistan, entire region.

If you ask me, I wouldn't even talk to any leader of a country that doesn't recognize women's rights.

These people are stuck in pre medieval days.

 

[Nebor]

The only way to eliminate terrorism would be to isolate the terrorists from their society through economic development and education. However, it is easier said than done, and I would imagine it takes years, if not decades, to make any significant advances. However, what the US has done is to impose their rule with an iron fist and with little regard for the welfare of the people. They just shoved money into all the wrong pockets, while totally disregarding the social fabric of the country, including how the society actually works. In the typical Western mindset, they thought that money would solve everything. To make matters worse, you had marines committing some heinous acts like wholesale butchery and rape of the civilian population, which never helps.

You don't know WTF you're talking about. We can't even fly a US flag at our COP for "sensitivity" reasons. We are so culturally sensitive that it makes us look foolish and weak to the Afghans, and they exploit the guilt and confusion to extort more concessions and money.

 

[Broheim]

You don't know WTF you're talking about. We can't even fly a US flag at our COP for "sensitivity" reasons. We are so culturally sensitive that it makes us look foolish and weak to the Afghans, and they exploit the guilt and confusion to extort more concessions and money.

*bearded dude walks up to main gate*
"waah you blew up my cow"
he's given some money (not a huge amount but still not chump change)
*next day dude comes back*
"waah you blew up my house"
he's given some more money
*next day dude coms back with a kid*
"waah you blew up my kid's tricycle"
yet again he's given money.
*next day dude comes back*
"waah dingo ate my baby"
... rinse and repeat
sounds like a setup for a bad joke, but sadly it's not.

 

[OutHouse]

If executions were filmed here in the US, especially the ones that don’t work the first or second time, such as electric chair, hanging, gas chamber, lethal injection and firing squad, Afghanistan would probably be calling our methods barbaric and cruel. Why are our methods better than theirs? It is required that a person be jailed for many years (at tax payers expense) to allow them every possible legal means to get out like we have here? How many people here get away with crimes including murder (remember OJ Simpson)? Our legal system is extremely corrupt and there is a lot to say for the way they handle things in Afghanistan.

the thing is the fucking taliban kill people for the slightest infraction against that fucktard Allah. shooting a woman for adultery is fucked up and i would love to know what punishment was for the man who was boning her? 100 lashes with a big mean peacock feather?? so yea they are barbaric pieces of shit

 

[DrunkenSano]

It's a fucked up religion. No excuse.

 

[OutHouse]

The only way to eliminate terrorism would be to isolate the terrorists from their society through economic development and education. However, it is easier said than done, and I would imagine it takes years, if not decades, to make any significant advances. However, what the US has done is to impose their rule with an iron fist and with little regard for the welfare of the people. They just shoved money into all the wrong pockets, while totally disregarding the social fabric of the country, including how the society actually works. In the typical Western mindset, they thought that money would solve everything. To make matters worse, you had marines committing some heinous acts like wholesale butchery and rape of the civilian population, which never helps.

im with Nebor, WTF are you talking about?? that is so far off base its not in the ballpark. stop making shit up.

 

[Vdubchaos]

It's a fucked up religion. No excuse.

Wait, there is a religion that is not fucked up?

please do tell!!!

 

[pelov]

Wait, there is a religion that is not fucked up?

please do tell!!!

Yes.

So long as you don't mind a little raping and pillaging.

 

[Baptismbyfire]

im with Nebor, WTF are you talking about?? that is so far off base its not in the ballpark. stop making shit up.

Granted, the term "iron fist" was too strong.

 

[TechBoyJK]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-executed-helpless-Afghan-woman-22-death.html

The guys who killed the girl were executed too. Allegedly.

 

[JimKiler]

If executions were filmed here in the US, especially the ones that don’t work the first or second time, such as electric chair, hanging, gas chamber, lethal injection and firing squad, Afghanistan would probably be calling our methods barbaric and cruel. Why are our methods better than theirs? It is required that a person be jailed for many years (at tax payers expense) to allow them every possible legal means to get out like we have here? How many people here get away with crimes including murder (remember OJ Simpson)? Our legal system is extremely corrupt and there is a lot to say for the way they handle things in Afghanistan.

Come again?