Tales of the Absurd: Wenyi Wang formally charged

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=1875872

By Z. BYRON WOLF

April 21, 2006 ? The U.S. government has charged Wenyi Wang, a Chinese national who has lived in the United States for 20 years, with threatening Chinese President Hu Jintao on Thursday while he met with President Bush at the White House.

After waiting overnight in jail, Wang was formally charged with "knowingly and willfully intimidating, coercing, threatening or harassing ? a foreign official performing his duties," a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in prison and a fine of $5,000.

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This is one of the stupidest moves by Bush's team. Free speech truly is dead. Six months for stating the obvious.
 

CanOWorms

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I wished that she wasn't charged, but you don't have the freedom of speech anywhere at anytime of your choosing.
 

BoomerD

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She made the mistake that thinking America has the freedom of speech...Obviously, at Bush speeches, that's only the case in "free Speech Zones" usually set up several blocks away from the actual event...
 

tommywishbone

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I hope she knows how to spell Guantanimo Bay, Cuba... because I sure don't, and she's going to need to tell her family where to send her things. Do they have co-ed facilities at Gitmo?;)
 

JEDIYoda

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there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....
 

sandorski

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Idiots. Removing her from the event is one thing, maybe slap her wrist with a fine, but this is ridiculous.
 

LumbergTech

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

you sound like a nazi sympathizer
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

you sound like a nazi sympathizer

You sound as if you honestly believe you can say anything you want without having to take responsibility for what you say!!

Probably one of the many kiddies in these forums.

 

maddogchen

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"Your time is running out," is borderline. Hu is not a young person...its partially true.
"Anything you have done will come back to you in this life." Maybe she believes in Karma?

Hope she beats it.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

you sound like a nazi sympathizer

You sound as if you honestly believe you can say anything you want without having to take responsibility for what you say!!

Probably one of the many kiddies in these forums.
What she said in NO WAY qualifies as abuse or harassment.

 

her209

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She single-handedly caused the loss of billions in trade. She should be held accountable.

Money > *
 

smashp

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

you sound like a nazi sympathizer

He is
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

you sound like a nazi sympathizer

You sound as if you honestly believe you can say anything you want without having to take responsibility for what you say!!

Probably one of the many kiddies in these forums.
What she said in NO WAY qualifies as abuse or harassment.

the prosecuters will probably spin it into a death threat
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

Free speech means the goverment can't punish a person for expressing their views. Free speech can not have any consequences from the goverment.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

Free speech means the goverment can't punish a person for expressing their views. Free speech can not have any consequences from the goverment.

So does that mean I can burst into the your bedroom protesting the crossbreeding of oysters with paperclips? I imagine that I would face consequences from the government.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

Free speech means the goverment can't punish a person for expressing their views. Free speech can not have any consequences from the goverment.

So does that mean I can burst into the your bedroom protesting the crossbreeding of oysters with paperclips? I imagine that I would face consequences from the government.

Yeah, but not because of what you said.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

Free speech means the goverment can't punish a person for expressing their views. Free speech can not have any consequences from the goverment.

So does that mean I can burst into the your bedroom protesting the crossbreeding of oysters with paperclips? I imagine that I would face consequences from the government.

Yeah, but not because of what you said.

The old "Fire" in the theater then.

I hope she beats it out, but I can see how she could be charged with the misdemeanor. I think that the people who wanted Robertson charged for saying things against Chavez are probably the same people defending this woman.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms


I hope she beats it out, but I can see how she could be charged with the misdemeanor. I think that the people who wanted Robertson charged for saying things against Chavez are probably the same people defending this woman.

Link to chavez harvesting organs and running labor camps? ok then.

She did not call for his assasination either. She should get some formal hand slap in public and booked for show and let out the back door with a job well done speech. ;)
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

Free speech means the goverment can't punish a person for expressing their views. Free speech can not have any consequences from the goverment.

So does that mean I can burst into the your bedroom protesting the crossbreeding of oysters with paperclips? I imagine that I would face consequences from the government.

Yeah, but not because of what you said.

The old "Fire" in the theater then.

I hope she beats it out, but I can see how she could be charged with the misdemeanor. I think that the people who wanted Robertson charged for saying things against Chavez are probably the same people defending this woman.

I question leadership that can't be questioned. :D
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
there is no guarantee of freedom of speech without consequences if you knowing use that freedom to abuse or harass another individual...duh....duh......
You have to take responsibility for what you say....

Free speech means the goverment can't punish a person for expressing their views. Free speech can not have any consequences from the goverment.

So does that mean I can burst into the your bedroom protesting the crossbreeding of oysters with paperclips? I imagine that I would face consequences from the government.

You would face consequences for the breaking and entering and not for protesting oysters and paperclips.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: CanOWorms


I hope she beats it out, but I can see how she could be charged with the misdemeanor. I think that the people who wanted Robertson charged for saying things against Chavez are probably the same people defending this woman.

Link to chavez harvesting organs and running labor camps? ok then.

Link to Hu performing a coup against his government? ok then.

What they have done is irrelevant to the issue.

She did not call for his assasination either. She should get some formal hand slap in public and booked for show and let out the back door with a job well done speech. ;)

You could interpret what she said as a threat.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms

You could interpret what she said as a threat.

Do you personally think it was? I don't, and I don't think they have a case at all and are wasting taxpayer money to keeps us sheeple intimidated. It's not like she said she/they were going to kill him, all she did was embarass Bush a little. Heck, you'd think he would be used to that by now. :D


Heck, we don't even know if she planned on doing this beforehand or if her emotions just got the better of her.