Taking Harder Stance Toward China, Obama Lines Up Allies

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I'm talking about the allies the US is seeking in Asia and the current allies it is reinforcing. That does not include China.

You have stated you want a war against the strongest allies the US has, now you want to reinforce the relationship?

And this thread is about China, so if you're not talking about China you better spell out which nations you are talking about.
 

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CanoWorms never suggested that we turn our backs on traditional western powers. He is saying that Obama is not limiting himself to just those allies when dealing with future threats by building relationships with emerging nations.

I have always advocated that the US insistence on European relations will be our downfall. The state of the world in the future will lead to turmoil between us. The US needs to disassociate with Western Europe.
 

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CanoWorms has said that he want the US to go to war against Europe, he's said that more than once and i'm fairly sure he'll say it again if you ask him.

The future threat according to him IS Europe and his solution is genocide now rather than later on.

Genocide is always Europe's answer to everything, which is why I advocate divorcing America from Europe.

Europe will likely be destroyed in the future - either through internal or external forces. The question is whether the US will go down with it as it defends it. American history shows an irrational passion for all things European. Hopefully future politicians will be like Obama - divorced from European passion.
 
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Genocide is always Europe's answer to everything, which is why I advocate divorcing America from Europe.

Don't play even more stupid than you already are, genocide would be the result of your wanted war you stupid fuck.

Either that or mutual eradication via nuclear arms.
 

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You have stated you want a war against the strongest allies the US has, now you want to reinforce the relationship?

I'm referring to the allies mentioned in the article: Japan and South Korea

And this thread is about China, so if you're not talking about China you better spell out which nations you are talking about.

You shouldn't be spoon fed everything. It was quite obvious. The thread is about relations with China and how the US is engaging in new alliances in Asia. It also mentions what I've been saying all the time: European countries are not our allies.
 

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Don't play even more stupid than you already are, genocide would be the result of your wanted war you stupid fuck.

Either that or mutual eradication via nuclear arms.

First of all, I don't want war. It's just that it will most likely be the inevitable outcome. That is the history of Europe. It is a history of genocide and war. And inbred monarchs.
 
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I'm referring to the allies mentioned in the article: Japan and South Korea

Yeah, those are really strong allies, what with all their support for the US that they have never had except when the US went the extra mile to show that attacking SK was a bad idea.

They are the real strong allies as opposed to the allies who have shared intelligence with the US to avoid threats for 60 years and who have helped you in numerous situations not to mention in the WOT.

Yeah, scrap those "weak" allies, SK and Japan are so much better allies than the EU nations.

Hell, even a neutral nation like Sweden has helped the US more than both of SK and Japan combined but lets forget about that too, let's forget about everything and live in a world of pretend that is made up in the retarded brain of CanofWorms.

This discussion is over.
 
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First of all, I don't want war. It's just that it will most likely be the inevitable outcome. That is the history of Europe. It is a history of genocide and war. And inbred monarchs.

Do i really have to go look up your post where you said you WANT the US to attack the EU?

Pathetic...
 

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Yeah, those are really strong allies, what with all their support for the US that they have never had except when the US went the extra mile to show that attacking SK was a bad idea.

They are the real strong allies as opposed to the allies who have shared intelligence with the US to avoid threats for 60 years and who have helped you in numerous situations not to mention in the WOT.

I'm sure that they share intelligence, too. US relations with Europe are just a major liability. They need to be severed for our own good. The United States shouldn't be dragged down to mediocrity like Western Europe.

The only reason we have close relations is because of demographics. Fortunately, the US is changing. People like Obama are becoming ever more relevant.

Yeah, scrap those "weak" allies, SK and Japan are so much better allies than the EU nations.
Yes, they have great potential, especially when compared to the future of Europe. Europe is becoming dominated by Nazi-inspired ultra right-wing crazies. How can we be allied with people like that? South Korea and Japan have their own far-right issues, but not too much in comparison to what Europe is wanting to do.

Hell, even a neutral nation like Sweden has helped the US more than both of SK and Japan combined but lets forget about that too, let's forget about everything and live in a world of pretend that is made up in the retarded brain of CanofWorms.
Link?

I'm not stating that the US and Europe don't have a history. They obviously do. But there is no future. The future is elsewhere.

This discussion is over.
No.
 
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Do i really have to go look up your post where you said you WANT the US to attack the EU?

Pathetic...

There are many times when I have wanted the US to attack the EU in retaliation for some action or initiate anti-terrorism strikes within the EU. However, I have never suggested that the US attack Europe for the sake of war.
 

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GOP will sabotage any action on China. Their real base (not the tea bagger idiots) wants access to cheap labor.

Who pushed and signed NAFTA and who was the first to give China "Favored Trading Partner" status?
Come on answer it.
 
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This is only good news if action is actually taken against China.

There is a lot of talk going on right now but very little action.
 

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of course you did :biggrin:

Not sure why so funny. Several jackets provided by my previous employer were made in Vietnam. Many of the vets of Vietnam that worked in the plant were heavily pissed. One gave his jacket away.
 
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There are many times when I have wanted the US to attack the EU in retaliation for some action or initiate anti-terrorism strikes within the EU. However, I have never suggested that the US attack Europe for the sake of war.

See, you are insane.

You've never mentioned anything about anti-terrorism strikes, that's just bullsheit, you have said that the US should attack the EU in retaliation for what the Europeans have done during the colonial times.

Any military attack would mean warfare, you can't attack a nation without going to war you retarded piece of sheit, even a twat like you gets that, i hope.

It's not going to happen though because no matter how much you long for Europeans blood to flow, the EU and the USA along with Canada and other neighbouring nations (NATO nations not in the EU) we are the closest of allies and the closest of all allies to the US is the UK, doesn't that just make you furious, twat?

I'd laugh at you because i can't seriously think that you are even taking yourself seriously.
 

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Did it really take the Obama Administration 21 months to figure out that the Chinese were not going to play ball? I could've told them that on day one. Well, at least he can say he tried:rolleyes:
 
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I thought the original NAFTA agreement with China was under GHB and the favored trading partner came after China became a member of the WTO (and after the application to NTR) which would mean that GWB was the cause of that.

Didn't most of it have to do with agriculture though, mainly US exports? I'm a bit daft on that so...

I might be wrong.
 

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See, you are insane.

You've never mentioned anything about anti-terrorism strikes, that's just bullsheit, you have said that the US should attack the EU in retaliation for what the Europeans have done during the colonial times.

Sorry, I don't think that I've ever stated anything like that. I suppose I can make up stuff, too. You have stated that you support the ethnic cleansing of all those deemed undesirables in Europe.

Any military attack would mean warfare, you can't attack a nation without going to war you retarded piece of sheit, even a twat like you gets that, i hope.

You should be more engaged in the news. The US and other countries have performed military strikes without going to war. For example, we have Predator drones all over the place. Why not include Europe in that list? I advocate anti-terrorism strikes within the European continent.

It's not going to happen though because no matter how much you long for Europeans blood to flow, the EU and the USA along with Canada and other neighbouring nations (NATO nations not in the EU) we are the closest of allies and the closest of all allies to the US is the UK, doesn't that just make you furious, twat?

If we were the closest of allies, why did Obama constantly snub the British political establishment? Oh yeah, the UK government tortured his grandfather by smashing his testicles with metal rods. He's snubbed many European countries.

I'd laugh at you because i can't seriously think that you are even taking yourself seriously.

I'd laugh at you because i can't seriously think that you are even taking yourself seriously.
 
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Sorry, I don't think that I've ever stated anything like that. I suppose I can make up stuff, too. You have stated that you support the ethnic cleansing of all those deemed undesirables in Europe.

Well that would be completely wrong, of course since you are the one who always do that, for or against depending on the thread at hand, you tell people how you see cleansing when the Jews are driven out by muslims and when the Muslims are condemned for it too, you are playing two sides at all times and i'm sure that it's a lot of fun but don't expect me or anyone else to take you seriously after having done that.

You should be more engaged in the news. The US and other countries have performed military strikes without going to war. For example, we have Predator drones all over the place. Why not include Europe in that list? I advocate anti-terrorism strikes within the European continent.

Clearly you have no clue about drones, nor their targeting systems or where it comes from.

We could shoot them out of the sky because when they are in our territory we would have the control of them, you can't use drones against allies and even trying would mean a UN fulfilled declaration of war, no declaration is actually neccessary, all it takes is one attack.


If we were the closest of allies, why did Obama constantly snub the British political establishment? Oh yeah, the UK government tortured his grandfather by smashing his testicles with metal rods. He's snubbed many European countries.

Well he didn't and the UK government did nothing of the sort, you need citation for that to make a claim such as that, you do get that you cannot just make up shit ... oh wait, you never get that, not once, not ever because you are insane.

Obama has declared the UK as the closest US ally and the EU as allied nations to the US along with NATO nations being the backbone of the worlds democracy.

I wish he hadn't, because truth be told, the UK were never on board with Iraq and we should not act as puppets to a master regime.


You are still insane though, you're looking for imperialism in Europe where there is none and disregarding the imperialistic actions of your home nation.

Truth is, there isn't one nation under the commonwealth that isn't better of because of it.

That knowledge must piss you off more than anything, eh?
 

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Well that would be completely wrong, of course since you are the one who always do that, for or against depending on the thread at hand, you tell people how you see cleansing when the Jews are driven out by muslims and when the Muslims are condemned for it too, you are playing two sides at all times and i'm sure that it's a lot of fun but don't expect me or anyone else to take you seriously after having done that.

I have no idea what this rambling is saying.

Clearly you have no clue about drones, nor their targeting systems or where it comes from.
Oh, and I guess you're an expert then!

We could shoot them out of the sky because when they are in our territory we would have the control of them, you can't use drones against allies and even trying would mean a UN fulfilled declaration of war, no declaration is actually neccessary, all it takes is one attack.
Needing to do any modification is possible as any other engineer can tell you. We can use drones against allies. I don't see anything precluding that. And I as I stated, any strikes would be in retaliation for European aggression. They have already created the so-called declaration of war.

Well he didn't and the UK government did nothing of the sort, you need citation for that to make a claim such as that, you do get that you cannot just make up shit ... oh wait, you never get that, not once, not ever because you are insane.
Of course he has. He returned Winston Churchill's bust because Churchill was a genocidal maniac who was in command when British forces tortured his grandfather with genital mutilation. He has repeatedly shit upon the inbred British Queen, too. He also gave hilarious presents in exchange to former PM Brown (a PM he disliked).

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5276010.ece
“He said they would sometimes squeeze his testicles with parallel metallic rods. They also pierced his nails and buttocks with a sharp pin, with his hands and legs tied together with his head facing down”

The British media is filled with all sorts of speculation on Obama's anti-British feelings.

Obama has declared the UK as the closest US ally and the EU as allied nations to the US along with NATO nations being the backbone of the worlds democracy.
That's just lip service to the pro-UK crowd in the US. It's nonsense rhetoric that doesn't match his actions.

I wish he hadn't, because truth be told, the UK were never on board with Iraq and we should not act as puppets to a master regime.
Unfortunately, the UK can never be trusted to be a master regime and must be delegated a puppet status. That doesn't mean that it must be subservient to the US like it is right now though. Go find a new master.

You are still insane though, you're looking for imperialism in Europe where there is none and disregarding the imperialistic actions of your home nation.
There is still much imperialistic thoughts in Europe. That is why the EU exists. It is desire for Empire.

Also, I have never claimed that the US is free of any ill actions.

Truth is, there isn't one nation under the commonwealth that isn't better of because of it.

That knowledge must piss you off more than anything, eh?
Not really, because it's false. That's like saying that Europe was better off under Nazi domination. Except that hundreds of millions, perhaps even billions, were massacred under British rule. It set back humanity by centuries. It only benefits the master nation while the slaves are just that - slaves.

I think that attitude is why you fail to see the seeds of genocide and imperialism all over Europe. You have the same outlook as a Neo-Nazi crazy.