Syria conflict: Aleppo hit air strikes and barrel bombs

[MongGrel]

I guess it is a good thing we don't have some F-16s over there just taking the Russians/Syrian planes out of the air on a whim...

One guy running for POTUS has never even heard of the place I guess.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37528260

 

[Jaskalas]

Now be smart and ask yourself why they are dropping bombs, why is there a war in Syria?

Rebel shelling has also claimed civilian lives in the east, reports say.

One women running for POTUS is behind the bloodshed of the place. And that's no guess.

Wait, maybe I need to say it louder as folks tend to blatantly ignore this FACT.
Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath

When the unrest of the Arab Spring broke out in early 2011, the CIA and the anti-Iran front of Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey saw an opportunity to topple Assad quickly and thereby to gain a geopolitical victory. Clinton became the leading proponent of the CIA-led effort at Syrian regime change.

In early 2011, Turkey and Saudi Arabia leveraged local protests against Assad to try to foment conditions for his ouster. By the spring of 2011, the CIA and the US allies were organizing an armed insurrection against the regime. On August 18, 2011, the US Government made public its position: “Assad must go.”

 

[bshole]

I guess it is a good thing we don't have some F-16s over there just taking the Russians/Syrian planes out of the air on a whim...

One guy running for POTUS has never even heard of the place I guess.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37528260

Damn right. There is no American military solution to the Middle East problems. It pisses me off that people pretend that there is, that it is worth getting American kids killed to find out, that Syria is of ANY significance to American interests, that the last 15 years and trillion plus dollar bombing and slaughter by our military had anything other than a catastrophically HORRIBLE effect, that escalation into an armed conflict with a nuclear armed global military power is a legitimate foreign policy move.

 

[MongGrel]

Now be smart and ask yourself why they are dropping bombs, why is there a war in Syria?


One women running for POTUS is behind the bloodshed of the place. And that's no guess.

Wait, maybe I need to say it louder as folks tend to blatantly ignore this FACT.
Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath

Bush invaded Iraq on a whim after 9/11, when he had a mandate and world support. He dug real hard to find a reason.

He wanted to be a "War President" and planned on invaded Syria and several other countries later.

But you can have your own viewpoints of course.

 

[bshole]

Bush invaded Iraq on a whim after 9/11, when he had a mandate and world support. He dug real hard to find a reason.

He wanted to be a "War President" and planned on invaded Syria and several other countries later.

But you can have your own viewpoints of course.

Yes and it was the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history. Escalating in Syria just demonstrates that we are completely incapable of learning from our mistakes.

Surely you aren't suggesting that we need more politicians like Bush who want to get us in deeper into the tar baby of the Middle East. Surely you would be diametrically opposed to politicians similar to Bush in this regard. I know that I am.

 

[MongGrel]

Yes and it was the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history. Escalating in Syria just demonstrates that we are completely incapable of learning from our mistakes.

Surely you aren't suggesting that we need more politicians like Bush who want to get us in deeper into the tar baby of the Middle East. Surely you would be diametrically opposed to politicians similar to Bush in this regard. I know that I am.

Of course not.

But there are still many zealots running around the world wanting to kill everyone else.

About the only thing you can do in some situations is kill them first.

Sucks I guess, but if someone wants to kill me I do not feel bad about taking them out, to be a bit simplistic about it.

Politicians like ramping things up and hiding in the background of course, they usually do, at least these days.

 

[bshole]

Of course not.

But there are still many zealots running around the world wanting to kill everyone else.

Yes. But you have to ask yourself, WHY do we only care only about certain zealots in certain countries? The answer with regards to Syria is trivially easy. Trace Saudi money to American politicians and you will have your answer. Saudi Arabia wants us to take Assad down. Clinton has received 10-25 million from the Saudi government. When she becomes president, we will take down Assad and it will have not a DAMN thing to do with American geopolitical interests and will clearly demonstrate that the American people don't control our government anymore. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of the ultra wealthy. We have NEVER had less control of our government than we do now.

 

[MongGrel]

Yes. But you have to ask yourself, WHY do we only care only about certain zealots in certain countries? The answer with regards to Syria is trivially easy. Trace Saudi money to American politicians and you will have your answer. Saudi Arabia wants us to take Assad down. Clinton has received 10-25 million from the Saudi government. When she becomes president, we will take down Assad and it will have not a DAMN thing to do with American geopolitical interests and will clearly demonstrate that the American people don't control our government anymore. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of the ultra wealthy. We have NEVER had less control of our government than we do now.

The Saudis have been making money hand over fist since the 50's.

They have had their own little extravagant Kingdom going on a long time now.

It's become the playground of the entitled of course.

Trump probably could not afford to build a hotel there I imagine

Even with cheap labor and lax building codes.

If I sound a bit sarcastic, well I guess I am.

 

[Jaskalas]

Bush invaded Iraq on a whim after 9/11, when he had a mandate and world support. He dug real hard to find a reason.

He wanted to be a "War President" and planned on invaded Syria and several other countries later.

But you can have your own viewpoints of course.

And you support Bush's policy now, is that right?
What else is this topic, other than you beating war drums while completely ignoring why there's a bloodbath in Syria.
Building and arming a "rebel" army in Syria is the reason all those people are dying.
Doubling down on regime change does not solve the crisis caused by regime change.

These Syrian topics demonstrate an adoption of Neocon policy, and why, because the person leading it has changed?
The dead in Aleppo do not care who pulls the trigger. They're still being killed by Neocon policy.