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Red Squirrel

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They seriously need to stop the BS of making a natural plant more illegal than murder. Just legalize it FFS. If people can just grow their own natural weed and smoke it there will be much less issues I think.

I'm not a smoker myself and I don't think it's very good for you, but it should be people's choice if they want to do it and the government needs to stop having it's nose in people's private lives. Of course that's never going to happen.

At least some places are finally legalizing it though, so it is a good start.
 

mizzou

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If people can just grow their own natural weed and smoke it there will be much less issues I think.


I've wondered the same thing, but I am also a non-user of recreational drugs. I've asked people who do crazy unnatural shit like K2 and Meth, whether or not it would make a difference if natural recreational drugs were legal.

I haven't met anyone yet who said it would :\ go figure!
 

Red Squirrel

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I guess it really depends on the person, some people just want to keep moving up to the crazy drugs. But I'm sure there are some who do occasional weed and just stick to that. It seems those are the people who tend to get caught and end up going to jail for a ridiculous amount of time and they were not hurting anyone.

Then there's medical usage, I suppose it's debatable whether or not it actually helps, but assuming it does then that's another good use for it. TBH if it was legal and I was sick, I'd give it a shot.
 

mizzou

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It seems those are the people who tend to get caught and end up going to jail for a ridiculous amount of time and they were not hurting anyone.

Honestly man, not many people go to jail or get one day of sentenced jail time for drugs, even the hard shit. You have to be a real fuckup to spend any time in jail for using drugs.

Now....there are a shit ton of people who are labeled "convicted felons" because OF drug use of any amount, and many of those people are non-violent and are not a big problem...other then that they support the basis for the black market drug trade.

These same people also spend $$$$ and major amounts of time going back and forth to court, working with probation/parole.


But I have yet to really see the jails piled up with people who just recreationally use drugs and aren't violent or causing an extreme nuisance. I'm in a way agreeing with you, but it's not that the jails are piled full with non-violent occasional drug users, that is just not true. the legal system overall, is definitely piled full with non-violent occasional drug users.
 

mnewsham

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Honestly man, not many people go to jail or get one day of sentenced jail time for drugs, even the hard shit. You have to be a real fuckup to spend any time in jail for using drugs.

not really, you just have to be a minority.
 

SlowSpyder

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They seriously need to stop the BS of making a natural plant more illegal than murder. Just legalize it FFS. If people can just grow their own natural weed and smoke it there will be much less issues I think.

I'm not a smoker myself and I don't think it's very good for you, but it should be people's choice if they want to do it and the government needs to stop having it's nose in people's private lives. Of course that's never going to happen.

At least some places are finally legalizing it though, so it is a good start.

It isn't the bogeyman you've been lead to believe. I think it remains outlawed more for political reasons than rational ones.

Have a look at this too.
 

Red Squirrel

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It isn't the bogeyman you've been lead to believe. I think it remains outlawed more for political reasons than rational ones.

Have a look at this too.

Interesting, I kind of always wondered just how bad it is compared to regular cigs but general consensus seems to be that it's actually not as bad. I think moderation is key, if you get stoned all the time, probably not good, if you have it here and there, probably not any worse than the pollution and other junk in the air these days.

And yeah the reasons for the illegality are sadly not because they care about people's health but because of money. Same deal with moonshine.
 

Blackroat

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Thins out all the low life's and retards ...i'm all for it. If you can't have enough money or common sense to buy real weed then drugs are the last thing you need to do with the first thing being to get a real job and some education.
I think heretic was better than hexen. As for our topic, real weed is low quality. It can hardly be grown. The police eliminate cannabis. Since it can hardly be grown, its low quality which means you cannot get high of real stuff.
 
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surfsatwerk

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I don't know anyone who smokes spice because they think it's somehow better or they like it more.

Around here nobody is smoking spice because real pot is hard to find. A lot of the kids I see passing through treatment talk about it as a preferred substance for melting their brains.

But regionally I'm sure it could be different.
 

BUTCH1

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Thins out all the low life's and retards ...i'm all for it. If you can't have enough money or common sense to buy real weed then drugs are the last thing you need to do with the first thing being to get a real job and some education.

Thing is you can't walk into a hindu-mart and buy "real" weed and the reason K2, Spice, ect. all became so popular was because it does not show up in a drug test.
 

HeXen

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Thing is you can't walk into a hindu-mart and buy "real" weed and the reason K2, Spice, ect. all became so popular was because it does not show up in a drug test.

lol, shows what you know. In high school we used to get it from Swifty's gas station..the guy that pumped your gas and sold us cigs. Even if it's just 1 employee or even the owner...fronts are all over the place.

I think heretic was better than hexen.

How so exactly? I thought they were all the same for the most part. Hexen 2 of course looked a lot better and was a bit different in that regard.
 

Greenman

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Isn't the answer to simply not consume synthetic weed? Most people know not to drink gas or snort cleanser, so add "don't smoke fake weed" to the list.
 

KMFJD

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I think heretic was better than hexen. As for our topic, real weed is low quality. It can hardly be grown. The police eliminate cannabis. Since it can hardly be grown, its low quality which means you cannot get high of real stuff.

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mnewsham

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Around here nobody is smoking spice because real pot is hard to find. A lot of the kids I see passing through treatment talk about it as a preferred substance for melting their brains.

But regionally I'm sure it could be different.
Where is that? I see high schoolers smoking it because they don't know any good dealers, but the vast majority of smokers avoid spice/k2 like it's the plague. Those I know who have tried it generally tell horror stories of it being really intense on the head and not lasting nearly as long as a real high would.

Real weed is just all around better, spice/k2 is just cheap and can/could be found at the corner store making it easier to access for someone who doesn't know a dealer.
 

Blackroat

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lol, shows what you know. In high school we used to get it from Swifty's gas station..the guy that pumped your gas and sold us cigs. Even if it's just 1 employee or even the owner...fronts are all over the place.



How so exactly? I thought they were all the same for the most part. Hexen 2 of course looked a lot better and was a bit different in that regard.

Hexen has bored me. I couldnt even finish it, it made me outta my mind. Heretic was much better with those 5 episodes. But my favourite was doom 2 but it sucks when you play it at nightmare. So ultra violence was good to play which was 4th skill. Lets not forget duke nukem 3D either.
 
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KMFJD

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It is illegal. It can hardly be grown so its low quality. The police eliminate cannabis. Its difficult to grow weed because of being illegal.

Don't be so naive....it's not difficult to grow high quality weed
 

Blackroat

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Maybe in your country (and i doubt that)

Real weed gives the same high as tobacco here. This is why nobody smokes the real weed. Its just like tobacco. They are all low quality. Most of the dealers dont even sell the real weed. There is no custemer for the real weed cuz its low quality. Real weed gives as much high as tobacco gives only. Most of the dealers sell synhethic weed. Nobody had interest in real weed after synhethic weed appeared.
 
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mnewsham

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Real weed gives the same high as tobacco here. This is why nobody smokes the real weed. Its just like tobacco. They are all low quality. Most of the dealers dont even sell the real weed. There is no custemer for the real weed cuz its low quality. Real weed gives as much high as tobacco gives only. Most of the dealers sell synhethic weed. Nobody had interest in real weed after synhethic weed appeared.

I currently have in my hand a half ounce of fairly high quality weed, I paid less than $160 for it. I dont know about where you are, but around here its pretty easy to get good quality weed.
 

Red Squirrel

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Honestly man, not many people go to jail or get one day of sentenced jail time for drugs, even the hard shit. You have to be a real fuckup to spend any time in jail for using drugs.

Now....there are a shit ton of people who are labeled "convicted felons" because OF drug use of any amount, and many of those people are non-violent and are not a big problem...other then that they support the basis for the black market drug trade.

These same people also spend $$$$ and major amounts of time going back and forth to court, working with probation/parole.


But I have yet to really see the jails piled up with people who just recreationally use drugs and aren't violent or causing an extreme nuisance. I'm in a way agreeing with you, but it's not that the jails are piled full with non-violent occasional drug users, that is just not true. the legal system overall, is definitely piled full with non-violent occasional drug users.

I don't know about that, hear about it all the time. I also recently learned that they lose their right to vote, I had no idea. Here's an example situation:

https://www.aclu.org/blog/voting-rights/i-was-arrested-voting

It's ridiculous how drug users are labeled as huge criminals for life.