Synhethic weed keeps killing

[HumblePie]

More Darwin award winners every day!

 

[SlowSpyder]

As far as I can tell synthetic alcohol doesn't have any market because it is one guy looking to get money to make it. There would still be a market for it, as there is with anything. How large that market? Well, that depends on the availability and price of things competing against it.

But why doesn't synthetic alcohol have much of a market if any? Because alcohol is easy to get and can be had for not much money. Outlawing weed has done nothing but create a black market and a market / demand for knock off chemicals that have unknown dangers designed to tickle our cannabinoid receptors and mimic the real thing. When we tried prohibition before it created the same problems we see today. When they repealed prohibition, many of those problems dissolved over time.

 

[BUTCH1]

FBI arresting people who sold this stuff when it was legal. Civil forfeiture maybe?

http://www.wbrz.com/news/feds-raid-baton-rouge-mansion-detain-homeowner/

At the least he's gonna go down for tax evasion, the laws for synthetic drugs vary wildly from state to state but when there's profit to be made someone always steps in. Shame of it is, while one cannot say marijuana has zero issues with it's use there have been no deaths caused by it either. Due to the forfeiture laws now in place that dude can kiss his Ferrari, his mansion, his bank accounts goodby, anything used in the commission of a felony is subject to forfeiture, one of the many laws quietly enacted to further strip away what the Constitution was meant to protect.

 

[BUTCH1]

But why doesn't synthetic alcohol have much of a market if any? Because alcohol is easy to get and can be had for not much money. Outlawing weed has done nothing but create a black market and a market / demand for knock off chemicals that have unknown dangers designed to tickle our cannabinoid receptors and mimic the real thing. When we tried prohibition before it created the same problems we see today. When they repealed prohibition, many of those problems dissolved over time.

"Synthetic alcohol" is a drug that mimic's the effect of alcohol without the side effects of real booze. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2013/11/12/Synthetic-alcohol-pill-lets-you-get-drunk-without-the-hangover/2981384270028/ Alcohol is a very simple molecule vs THC and is so easily produced there would be no need or point to try and make it synthetically.

 

[smackababy]

But why doesn't synthetic alcohol have much of a market if any? Because alcohol is easy to get and can be had for not much money. Outlawing weed has done nothing but create a black market and a market / demand for knock off chemicals that have unknown dangers designed to tickle our cannabinoid receptors and mimic the real thing. When we tried prohibition before it created the same problems we see today. When they repealed prohibition, many of those problems dissolved over time.

There is no market for synthetic alcohol because it is cost prohibitive to manufacture. It has nothing to do with alcohol being available and cheap. And, only one guy is trying to make it.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Just legalize it already

 

[Blackroat]

There is no market for synthetic alcohol because it is cost prohibitive to manufacture. It has nothing to do with alcohol being available and cheap. And, only one guy is trying to make it.

What the hell is synhethic alcohol? Ive never heard of it. Alcohol is alcohol. You dont have to say synheyhic.

 

[Soundmanred]

synheyhic

 

[SlowSpyder]

"Synthetic alcohol" is a drug that mimic's the effect of alcohol without the side effects of real booze. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2013/11/12/Synthetic-alcohol-pill-lets-you-get-drunk-without-the-hangover/2981384270028/ Alcohol is a very simple molecule vs THC and is so easily produced there would be no need or point to try and make it synthetically.

There is no market for synthetic alcohol because it is cost prohibitive to manufacture. It has nothing to do with alcohol being available and cheap. And, only one guy is trying to make it.

The point is it is cost prohibitive because booze is not outlawed, it is widely available and cheap. That's the point I'm trying to make, if marijuana was made legal, over time it too will be come widely available and cheap. There will be no market for the synthetic stuff.

This whole line of conversation stemmed from this:

Those drugs would be created regardless, although they distribution would likely not be as widespread. People are always looking for a cheaper, better high or a way to stretch their drugs further. Who was the genius that said "Hey, cocaine is already pretty gnarly! Let's find a way to make it even stronger, last less, and be more addictive!"?

I disagree. And the point of bringing up 'synthetic alcohol' was to show that when something is wide spread and cheap, there isn't a market for an imitator of the real thing. I see no reason marijuana would be any different.

 

[Blackroat]

synheyhic

So?

 

[Blackroat]

The point is it is cost prohibitive because booze is not outlawed, it is widely available and cheap. That's the point I'm trying to make, if marijuana was made legal, over time it too will be come widely available and cheap. There will be no market for the synthetic stuff.

This whole line of conversation stemmed from this:



I disagree. And the point of bringing up 'synthetic alcohol' was to show that when something is wide spread and cheap, there isn't a market for an imitator of the real thing. I see no reason marijuana would be any different.

As long as weed is illegal, synhethic weed will be used.

 

[surfsatwerk]

As long as weed is illegal, synhethic weed will be used.

Has nothing to do with weed being illegal. Maybe it did at first before people became aware of the risks of synthetic weed. But now people actively pursue it for the the particular "flavor" of a high it brings.

 

[Blackroat]

Has nothing to do with weed being illegal. Maybe it did at first before people became aware of the risks of synthetic weed. But now people actively pursue it for the the particular "flavor" of a high it brings.

Yes but since weed is illegal, its low quilty which means you cant get high off weed. You will either drink alcohol nor smoke synthethic weed. Normal weed will be out of question. So I drink alcohol. Weed is like tobacco because low quality.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Yes but since weed is illegal, its low quilty which means you cant get high off weed. You will either drink alcohol nor smoke synthethic weed. Normal weed will be out of question. So I drink alcohol. Weed is like tobacco because low quality.

Yes this is exactly how life is :biggrin: Something is wrong with you son.

 

[mnewsham]

Has nothing to do with weed being illegal. Maybe it did at first before people became aware of the risks of synthetic weed. But now people actively pursue it for the the particular "flavor" of a high it brings.

Really? I find that hard to believe, the only people I know who smoke spice are doing it because they can't afford real weed (Decent quality weed is $20/g around these parts, so it isn't exactly cheap). And the one guy I know who smoked spice for ~6 months or so has been kinda messed up ever since, he cant even smoke real weed any more without getting panic attacks.

I don't know anyone who smokes spice because they think it's somehow better or they like it more.

 

[SlowSpyder]

As long as weed is illegal, synhethic weed will be used.

Right, that is exactly what I'm saying. A black market exists because it is illegal. Synthetic exists because the real thing is illegal.

Synthetic marijuana doesn't contain THC. It contains chemicals like jwh-018. Someone has to discover and / or create a chemical that activates the same receptors in the brain, manufacture it on a large enough scale, apply it to the inert smokeable materials, distribute it and all of that. That costs a lot of money, but because the real thing is illegal and expensive, the trouble can be worth it.

If, like alcohol, the real thing wasn't illegal and was widely available for reasonable prices, the incentive to manufacture the fake stuff is gone. There's not enough profit to be had. Keeping it illegal causes more problems than it solves, by far.

 

[HeXen]

Thins out all the low life's and retards ...i'm all for it. If you can't have enough money or common sense to buy real weed then drugs are the last thing you need to do with the first thing being to get a real job and some education.

 

[mcurphy]

The biggest problem with synthetic weed is that it makes people want to stab other people. And then everyone has a fear of being stabbed. Way too much stabbing going on whenever that synthetic weed is around.

 

[kstu]

Ahahahaha did this guy really just say real weed is low quality and you can't get high off it?

 

[Blackroat]

The biggest problem with synthetic weed is that it makes people want to stab other people. And then everyone has a fear of being stabbed. Way too much stabbing going on whenever that synthetic weed is around.

Of course

 

[Blackroat]

Ahahahaha did this guy really just say real weed is low quality and you can't get high off it?

What is funny about it?

 

[DisturbedRamm]

wow

 

[disappoint]

Natural selection, the stupid are going to weed themselves out of the population.

 

[Blackroat]

I see what you seem to have seen there

 

[mizzou]

You can't legalize synthetic weed, it's completely awful for you in every shape and form. It's basically a sleezy way to sell robotussin highs.

What's going on is you have these bottom feeder head shops/gas station stores selling drug paraphernalia (glass pipes and other "tobacco" tools), and in the same fucking glass container are "aromatic bath salts" and "Aromatic scented incense") These bags clearly say NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION, because they are toxic as shit, yet they call it "Dazed & Confused" and other generic names associated with smoked inhalants....and they sell them ONLY in packages conveniently sorted into amounts for individual consumption.

It's like selling drano in a 12oz soda can with a lable that says "Yummee slurpee good purple!" with a baby on it drinking soda...yet on the warning label it will say something ridiculous like "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION, FOR VIEWING PURPOSES ONLY"

I hope people are willing to create laws (and enforce) laws to prosecute these companies for bastardizing the recreational drug industry.