Switching to a VPS

milehigh

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I've been searching around and found a topic or two recommending Zone.net. So I started looking into them and see they sold all their VPS assets to SolarVPS.

They have a Managed VPS with Plesk/100 with 672MB Ram on special for $56 a month and I'm tempted to go with their 1088MB Ram plan for $73 a month...

Anybody have experience with these guys..from what I can tell they seem reputable and these prices seem right. I really do need a managed VPS and I've set a max budget at $100 a month for this...


 

TechBoyJK

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I can do a vmWare based virtual server with DirectAdmin for $49 or cPanel for $59 and the specs are better. For $5 more I can add vServerManager, where you can have console level access to your vm, force reboots, and even format your server and reinstall from an ISO.

* 1GB RAM
* 20GB Hard disk Space
* UnMetered 2mbps Bandwidth

I can up the ram 1GB for $10 per month. You can even download your VM direct to your home computer and run it with vmWare player.

Not to mention all vm's are ran on high end Dell's with 16GB of Ram and High Speed SAS drive based raid6 array for storage. VM's are also backed up to a high speed NAS about every 72 hours.

Our network also has 0ms links to 4 of the 5 top internet backbones. We are located in the Bandwidth Exchange Building in St. Louis that serves as one of the largest (grand central station like) exchange points for internet backbone traffic.

check out

http://www.vdedicatedserver.com/
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I can do a vmWare based virtual server with DirectAdmin for $49 or cPanel for $59 and the specs are better. For $5 more I can add vServerManager, where you can have console level access to your vm, force reboots, and even format your server and reinstall from an ISO.

* 1GB RAM
* 20GB Hard disk Space
* UnMetered 2mbps Bandwidth

Not to mention all vm's are ran on high end Dell's with 16GB of Ram and High Speed SAS drive based raid6 array for storage.

Our network also has 0ms links to 4 of the 5 top internet backbones. We are located in the Bandwidth Exchange Building in St. Louis that serves as one of the largest (grand central station like) exchange points for internet backbone traffic.

I wouldn't exactly call that high end.

We just ordered 4 new HP DL580's with quad 6 core CPU's and 128gb of ram to add to our existing VMWare farm. They will all be back ended on our IBM DS8300 for storage.

;)
 

ViviTheMage

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I can do a vmWare based virtual server with DirectAdmin for $49 or cPanel for $59 and the specs are better. For $5 more I can add vServerManager, where you can have console level access to your vm, force reboots, and even format your server and reinstall from an ISO.

* 1GB RAM
* 20GB Hard disk Space
* UnMetered 2mbps Bandwidth

Not to mention all vm's are ran on high end Dell's with 16GB of Ram and High Speed SAS drive based raid6 array for storage.

Our network also has 0ms links to 4 of the 5 top internet backbones. We are located in the Bandwidth Exchange Building in St. Louis that serves as one of the largest (grand central station like) exchange points for internet backbone traffic.

I wouldn't exactly call that high end.

We just ordered 4 new HP DL580's with quad 6 core CPU's and 128gb of ram to add to our existing VMWare farm. They will all be back ended on our IBM DS8300 for storage.

;)

This is true...that's not exactly 'high end' nowadays.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I can do a vmWare based virtual server with DirectAdmin for $49 or cPanel for $59 and the specs are better. For $5 more I can add vServerManager, where you can have console level access to your vm, force reboots, and even format your server and reinstall from an ISO.

* 1GB RAM
* 20GB Hard disk Space
* UnMetered 2mbps Bandwidth

Not to mention all vm's are ran on high end Dell's with 16GB of Ram and High Speed SAS drive based raid6 array for storage.

Our network also has 0ms links to 4 of the 5 top internet backbones. We are located in the Bandwidth Exchange Building in St. Louis that serves as one of the largest (grand central station like) exchange points for internet backbone traffic.

I wouldn't exactly call that high end.

We just ordered 4 new HP DL580's with quad 6 core CPU's and 128gb of ram to add to our existing VMWare farm. They will all be back ended on our IBM DS8300 for storage.

;)

I bet those were pricey. I said high end Dell's, not high end HP's or servers. Context people! Context!

What kind of network do you have?

 

Superwormy

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I had a VPS with SolarVPS, and I was anything but impressed. I had several bouts with downtime:
- Multiple occurrences of the VPS just totally bombing out, strange stack errors and out of memory errors and other garbage related to Virtuozzo
- At one point they forgot to renew their Virtuozzo license so everything just stopped working, it took a few hours to get resolved
- A few network outages

I ended up just buying a cheap used server from ebay and hosting it at a local data center for $125/month. It's been infinitely more reliable and easier to manage.

If your interested, PM me and I can probably hook you up with a managed server or colo server for a pretty good price.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: Superwormy
I had a VPS with SolarVPS, and I was anything but impressed. I had several bouts with downtime:
- Multiple occurrences of the VPS just totally bombing out, strange stack errors and out of memory errors and other garbage related to Virtuozzo
- At one point they forgot to renew their Virtuozzo license so everything just stopped working, it took a few hours to get resolved
- A few network outages

I ended up just buying a cheap used server from ebay and hosting it at a local data center for $125/month. It's been infinitely more reliable and easier to manage.

If your interested, PM me and I can probably hook you up with a managed server or colo server for a pretty good price.

I have to disagree. Virtuozzo isn't the best virtualization package. If you were to try vmware on a competently hosted infrastructure like something i mentioned or even better like the hp systems the other guy talked about, you might realize why I disagree.

First and foremost, from an end user management perspective, once you are using your vm, you can't tell you aren't on a physical machine (short of seeing "vmware network adapter").

What happens when your hard drive in your physical server fails?
How often do you do backups?
How much is backed up? (entire harddrive, or just select data)
If your server's power supply were to go up in smoke and take the server with it, how soon could you recover?
What happens if you apply a patch and you reboot, and your server locks up?

With a physical server, if your hard drive fails and you don't have it in raid, or something like that, you are screwed. Even if you have a current backup, you still need to reinstall your OS, reconfigure, then migrate your backups to the current system, reconfigure, test, then deploy.

With a physical server, if you want to take a snapshot of the ENTIRE system, you need to ghost your hard drive (requires downtime) or use something like Acronis which is resource intensive. This isn't something you can do all the time and not expect performance to suffer dramatically.

With a physical server, if your physical system fails (power supply melts everything) but your hard drive is good, you can't usually just throw it in another box (unless its the exact same) and expect it to boot up and run flawlessly.

With a physical server, if it fails to boot due to a faulty patch, you might need to do a repair, or reinstall.

Any one of these things could have your server down for 24 hours.

With virtualization, management, backup, recovery, etc. can all be streamlined into 5-10 minute recovery in any one of those situations. And it's cheaper.
 

Crusty

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Stay away from zone.net

I've got 4 servers at futurehosting.com and they are great. They have top of the line hardware and support is great too. The biggest advice you can take is to research the company yourself, find reviews, learn about their networks, their data centers, their support system.

Grill their sales team as much as you please, if they are a company worth hosting with they will answer all your questions without any problems.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Yeah, but he can run VM on the box he purchased...There is nothing wrong with virtualizing a dedicated box.

True, but I didn't hear him say he was doing that. Anybody that wants a dedicated server here we try and recommend installing vmware, then setting up a vm on their box.
 

ViviTheMage

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Yeah, but he can run VM on the box he purchased...There is nothing wrong with virtualizing a dedicated box.

True, but I didn't hear him say he was doing that. Anybody that wants a dedicated server here we try and recommend installing vmware, then setting up a vm on their box.

Yup, we have a blade cluster here and we have over 60 servers in VMWare, works GREAT. <3 snapshots.
 

Drakkon

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I've been with Steadcom ( http://www.steadcom.com/ ) for a little over a year and their level of support is amazing. Every time i have an issue or problem they are responding within 10-15 minutes seems like no matter the hour of day.

My 1 blip - a few months back they had a HD failure and whipped out my account completely. All my files, my VPS, everything. I had no backup plan at the time (didn't pay for it) and so i was kinda screwed. They not only offered 2 free months for the trouble but also gave me a FREE backup plan so i didn't go through that again.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Yeah, but he can run VM on the box he purchased...There is nothing wrong with virtualizing a dedicated box.

True, but I didn't hear him say he was doing that. Anybody that wants a dedicated server here we try and recommend installing vmware, then setting up a vm on their box.

Yup, we have a blade cluster here and we have over 60 servers in VMWare, works GREAT. <3 snapshots.

Yes. snapshots rule. I cringe at the idea of running a raw dedicated server anymore. The management benefits with going virtual are just to overwhelming.
 

NL5

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I've had a VPS account with SLHost.com for two years. Amazing customer service and all but zero downtime.

 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: milehigh
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
I am in the process of moving away from Zone.net/Solar VPS. The support sucks.

Wow...it was your recommendation here that led me to look into them!!

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...ght_key=y&keyword1=VPS

I take it the transition from Zone to Solar is not going well.

SolarVPS has a good reputation. So did zone.net, until Sean(the owner) fucked things up. Within the past year zone.net completely lost touch of what it means to service a customer.

SolarVPS bought all of zones assets, hardware and clients. On top of that, Sean is now going to be on SolarVPS' team until everything is settled. I would highly suggest staying away from SolarVPS until Sean is completely out of the picture.