SWITCHING FROM GEFORCE TO RADEON - COULD THIS CAUSE ISSUES?

[brigden]

I was wondering if I could expect any issues when switching from a GeForce-based card to a Radeon?

 

[calvink]

probably not.

 

[Ziptar]

I didn't have any...

 

[heliomphalodon]

Does your motherboard have on-board video? If it does, you might have problems.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

It can if you have driver conflict issues, make sure you get rid of those Detonator drivers completely,including the registry.

 

[Killrose]

What motherboard do you have and what Radeon are you buying? Usually not a problem unless there is a known conflict and/or you don't completely clean the registry of the nvidia drivers.

If it is on your 8RDA+ and you are planning on a 9500/9700 series you should have no problems. My 9500>hacked>9700 and 8RDA are a perfect combo. I have zero issues. Just make sure you keep the Radeon locked to lower than 75MHz AGP bus.

 

[brigden]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I would be putting a Radeon 9500 Pro (not overclocked) to my 8RDA+. My current card is a GeForce2 MX400 64MB. It's time for it to go...

 

[BFG10K]

Provided you remove all traces of your previous video card beforeperforming the swap you shouldn't have any problems at all.

 

[gcogger]

I switched from a GeForce 2MX to a Radeon 9700 Pro, and I faced a number of problems that nearly had me sending the card back! I'm running Win98SE and an Asus A7N8X MB (same chipset as yours). All of these problems are fairly common, if you look at various forums and newsgroups.

1) With the supplied drivers, average frame rates were very high but there was a 'stuttering' effect in some games that made it about as much use as a cheap card. These have mostly been fixed in the newer drivers, but...
2) When I run the installer for the newer drivers, it crashes. You can install them manually, but you don't get the 'Smartgart' utility - don't know if that matters.
3) I can no longer set my monitor refresh rate above 75Hz (some people have reported 60Hz) - the control panel 'pretends' to have changed it, but the monitor always reports 75Hz. It would go much higher with the GeForce card, and the monitor supports much higher rates. With the slightly older drivers, there was a registry hack that sorted it out, but that doesn't work with the latest drivers.

I've spent many hours since getting the card trying to get it to do what I want, and currently don't have the refresh rate where I want it. If I had the choice to make now, I'd get a GeForce 4800! I am awaiting replies from ATI and the card supplier about my problems.

 

[BFG10K]

1) With the supplied drivers, average frame rates were very high but there was a 'stuttering' effect in some games

Nobody uses supplied drivers unless they are the latest available. And for the record I've never had stuttering issues with any of the 9700 Pro's drivers.

2) When I run the installer for the newer drivers, it crashes.

What kind of crash?

3) I can no longer set my monitor refresh rate above 75Hz (some people have reported 60Hz) - the control panel 'pretends' to have changed it, but the monitor always reports 75Hz.

Do you have the correct monitor INF installed? Have you set the maximum resolution and refresh rate in ATi's driver control panel? Have you applied a refresh fixing utility for 3D games, especially if you're running Windows 2000 or XP?

 

[jiffylube1024]

Yeah don't use the stock drivers, use the Detonator 3.0 or 3.1 drivers.

 

[Spicedaddy]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Yeah don't use the stock drivers, use the Detonator 3.0 or 3.1 drivers.

Catalyst?

 

[IdBuRnS]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
Provided you remove all traces of your previous video card beforeperforming the swap you shouldn't have any problems at all.

I didn't bother removing the old nVidia drivers and everything runs fine for me. Went from 4200 Ti 128MB to 9500 Pro.

 

[gcogger]

2) When I run the installer for the newer drivers, it crashes.

What kind of crash?

The InfSetup failure that a lot of people are getting (check the forums at www.rage3D.com).

3) I can no longer set my monitor refresh rate above 75Hz (some people have reported 60Hz) - the control panel 'pretends' to have changed it, but the monitor always reports 75Hz.

Do you have the correct monitor INF installed? Have you set the maximum resolution and refresh rate in ATi's driver control panel? Have you applied a refresh fixing utility for 3D games, especially if you're running Windows 2000 or XP?

[/quote]

I have the very latest monitor inf installed (Iiyama Visionmaster Pro 410), and as I said I didn't get the problem with previous graphics cards. I'm using Win98SE, so I don't get the option to set max resolution/refresh rate in the control panel. The refresh problem is when running Windows - I'm not too worried about games. I've tried a number of refresh utilities but none of them work in Win98, or if they do, they don't fix the problem in this driver release. There was a registry hack that I used previously, but it doesn't work for Catalyst 3.1 drivers.

 

[TimisoaraKill]

Originally posted by: gcogger
I switched from a GeForce 2MX to a Radeon 9700 Pro, and I faced a number of problems that nearly had me sending the card back! I'm running Win98SE and an Asus A7N8X MB (same chipset as yours). All of these problems are fairly common, if you look at various forums and newsgroups.

1) With the supplied drivers, average frame rates were very high but there was a 'stuttering' effect in some games that made it about as much use as a cheap card. These have mostly been fixed in the newer drivers, but...
2) When I run the installer for the newer drivers, it crashes. You can install them manually, but you don't get the 'Smartgart' utility - don't know if that matters.
3) I can no longer set my monitor refresh rate above 75Hz (some people have reported 60Hz) - the control panel 'pretends' to have changed it, but the monitor always reports 75Hz. It would go much higher with the GeForce card, and the monitor supports much higher rates. With the slightly older drivers, there was a registry hack that sorted it out, but that doesn't work with the latest drivers.

I've spent many hours since getting the card trying to get it to do what I want, and currently don't have the refresh rate where I want it. If I had the choice to make now, I'd get a GeForce 4800! I am awaiting replies from ATI and the card supplier about my problems.

My brother bought the 9700 non pro 3 monts before and he never had 'stuttering' effect and he can play every game he trow in without problems , and when he run the installer for the newer drivers the game does not crash .
Also if i compear ATI actual driver with my actual Geforce driver the ATI driver is better .
I just writed to Nvidia yesterday about this , all 41's and up driver are screwed and i also asked them why i am stuck with Official DX8 Beta driver when ATI hawe Official WHQL DX9 Driver , is kinda frustrating .

 

[GoodToGo]

I went from a Geforce MX 420 to radeon 9500 pro and had lots of prblems with games which took forever to start and were stuttering like crazy. I had to reformat and now have no problems whatsoever. And this was after deleting the drivers, registry keys, etc. So good luck and make sure you get rid of everything related to nvidia on the comp.

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: gcogger
I switched from a GeForce 2MX to a Radeon 9700 Pro, and I faced a number of problems that nearly had me sending the card back! I'm running Win98SE and an Asus A7N8X MB (same chipset as yours). All of these problems are fairly common, if you look at various forums and newsgroups.

1) With the supplied drivers, average frame rates were very high but there was a 'stuttering' effect in some games that made it about as much use as a cheap card. These have mostly been fixed in the newer drivers, but...
2) When I run the installer for the newer drivers, it crashes. You can install them manually, but you don't get the 'Smartgart' utility - don't know if that matters.
3) I can no longer set my monitor refresh rate above 75Hz (some people have reported 60Hz) - the control panel 'pretends' to have changed it, but the monitor always reports 75Hz. It would go much higher with the GeForce card, and the monitor supports much higher rates. With the slightly older drivers, there was a registry hack that sorted it out, but that doesn't work with the latest drivers.

I've spent many hours since getting the card trying to get it to do what I want, and currently don't have the refresh rate where I want it. If I had the choice to make now, I'd get a GeForce 4800! I am awaiting replies from ATI and the card supplier about my problems.

Try upgrading your OS 1st. Such a nice rig to be wasted on such a sh!t OS

 

[gcogger]

Try upgrading your OS 1st. Such a nice rig to be wasted on such a sh!t OS

I may switch to Win2k at some point, although I'll not do it just because ATI have poor drivers.
I'll certainly not switch to a bloated piece of Microsoft spyware that won't let me upgrade my PC without re-registering (I'm sure you know the one I mean) ;-)

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: gcogger

Try upgrading your OS 1st. Such a nice rig to be wasted on such a sh!t OS

I may switch to Win2k at some point, although I'll not do it just because ATI have poor drivers.
I'll certainly not switch to a bloated piece of Microsoft spyware that won't let me upgrade my PC without re-registering (I'm sure you know the one I mean) ;-)

I sure do, but there are ways around that!