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Switched to streaming tv exclusively how do I make sure the streaming always works w/o interruption

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pcslookout

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We are a family of 4 and sometimes we download windows updates in the background on our PCs, stream a YouTube video, or download a game. How do I make sure this does not effect the streaming tv without interruption or lowering the quality of the stream please ? Of course we all have more than one device so yeah.

We already have a good router. ASUS RT-AC5300 Tri-Band Wireless AC5300 Gigabit Router. This router is good enough right?

Our internet tier we pay for is 50 Mbps download and 5 Mbps upload but it is more like 60 Mbps download and 5 Mbps upload. Is this enough for 4 people with multiple devices with streaming tv exclusively or do we need to go up a tier ?
 
pcslookout said:
Our internet tier we pay for is 50 Mbps download and 5 Mbps upload but it is more like 60 Mbps download and 5 Mbps upload. Is this enough for 4 people with multiple devices with streaming tv exclusively or do we need to go up a tier ?
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Yeah, that's going to be a problem. Can you get a gigabit internet plan, for around $100/mo? Both Comcast and Verizon are offering that nowadays.

Edit: I think that you need to get at least a 200Mbit/sec downstream plan.
 
VirtualLarry said:
Yeah, that's going to be a problem. Can you get a gigabit internet plan, for around $100/mo? Both Comcast and Verizon are offering that nowadays.

Edit: I think that you need to get at least a 200Mbit/sec downstream plan.
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Why is it going to be a problem ?

Why do I need at least 200 Mbps download?
 
i have 100 down, works fine.

just stick with 50 and aee how it goes, bump it to 100 needed.

check out QoS on your router
 
ch33zw1z said:
i have 100 down, works fine.

just stick with 50 and aee how it goes, bump it to 100 needed.

check out QoS on your router
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Ok but I want my phones and tablets to get maximum download speed when apps are updating or I am downloading a new app. Is that possible ? Like if my pc is downloading a windows update or game at full speed I don't want it to slow down my phone app update or new app install.
 
no, as your limiting factor is wireless speeds.

you need to figure it out while you go along.

some services will max your bandwidth, others wont even come close.

if your going to say "i update everything i own at 5pm" then 50 mbps wont suffice.
 
Wire up your streaming devices. No exceptions. If you can't wire for the streaming service you use, buy a different box/casting device/etc that comes with Ethernet.

Your ISP. Despite your best intentions with above your local ISP can still get bogged around the 7PM-10PM weekdays. It won't matter which speed tier you buy. One choice... A small business tier. That can at least resolve the 'fake bottleneck' at your local ISP, but you'll still be at the mercy of Internet traffic.
 
razel said:
Your ISP. Despite your best intentions with above your local ISP can still get bogged around the 7PM-10PM weekdays. It won't matter which speed tier you buy. One choice... A small business tier. That can at least resolve the 'fake bottleneck' at your local ISP, but you'll still be at the mercy of Internet traffic.
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It's not too hard to get around prime-time evening hour congestion, I have a $2.50/month VPS I run that I SSH into and use as a localhost SOCKS proxy configured through putty and firefox.
Chrome is my normal connection, but if I open up firefox it goes through my VPS. Total cost is $30 a year and during peak hours my VPS hits 200-300mbps (it can hit 3-4gbps during off peak hours). So plenty of bandwidth for streaming.
 
The thing is, you really can't QoS incoming packets. If you're overloading your downsteam, you need more bandwidth, period. Hence my original suggestion. Allocate 50Mbit/sec for download, per person.
 
4K YouTube VP9 @ 60FPS is like 35Mbit/sec, plus downloading updates, multiple devices, etc. You want to have a little extra too, to prevent hitches and buffering.

Edit: I guess it's based on personal experience, having a number of (wired) PCs here, as well as a few laptops and tablets and phones.

50/50 plan on FIOS is enough for me, as a single person. 150/150 is even better, for those times that I'm downloading Linux ISOs. Gigabit is sheer overkill, but nice to have, just so that you can know that you don't have to worry about your local pipe's bandwidth.

I will say, after using my Comcast 15/2 connection, that it's starting to suck. Sometimes, my streaming radio, I have to start and stop and re-start it several times, to get it to "go".

Also, have had some issues with Skype and video-conferencing.
 
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VirtualLarry said:
4K YouTube VP9 @ 60FPS is like 35Mbit/sec,]
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Highlighted the rather important distinction there for you. I'm not aware of any TV service that's offering 4K streaming. Netflix quotes 25Mbps for 4K. This is assuming he's streaming 4K which wasn't mentioned anywhere.

Don't get me wrong, my method is always go with the fastest option available. But so far he hasn't specified anything that would require 50Mbps.
 
OK, if they're not doing 4K streaming (all of them simultaneously), then you could probably get by with a 100Mbit/sec connection for four people (25Mbit/sec per person). I don't think that I would go any lower than that. Preferably 150/150 if you have FIOS.
 
since OP stated a connection speed of 50/5, I would assume some flavor of Cable Internet. I would estimate that 50/5 should be generally acceptable, but would also think that the next tier up would likely be the sweet spot (100/10).

Of course, more faster = more better... 🙂
 
mnewsham said:
It's not too hard to get around prime-time evening hour congestion, I have a $2.50/month VPS I run that I SSH into and use as a localhost SOCKS proxy configured through putty and firefox.
Chrome is my normal connection, but if I open up firefox it goes through my VPS. Total cost is $30 a year and during peak hours my VPS hits 200-300mbps (it can hit 3-4gbps during off peak hours). So plenty of bandwidth for streaming.
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Can you explain more of this on how this works ? Like how would this work on all our Roku's in our house ?
 
pcslookout said:
Can you explain more of this on how this works ? Like how would this work on all our Roku's in our house ?
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the way I use it is to allow simultaneous use of both my normal public IP address and my VPS IP address. Chrome and the rest of my computer connect regularly through my normal IP, Firefox is set up to run traffic through an SSH tunnel to my VPS set up with Putty. So any website accessed through Firefox is automatically routed through my VPS in New York. When YouTube or Hulu get congested in the evenings with my normal connection through Chrome I just open it up in Firefox.

For Roku's you'd need to either purchase a true VPN service, or use a VPS to host your own VPN. Then you'd have to set up and configure it yourself, but it would all be under your control.

At that point depending on your router you can just set up a VLAN that runs through your VPS/VPN and put your Rokus on that. Then another VLAN for your standard connection. However this would route ALL traffic on that VLAN to the VPS/VPN so if you wanted your Roku's to be able to switch back and forth between your normal public IP and the VPS/VPN IP you'd have to do something more fancy.

If you've got a Pfsense router this is all relatively simple, however if you've got just a normal consumer router odds are it doesn't support VLANs.
 
mxnerd said:
How? Any ISP offering 3-4Gbps download?
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This is a direct speedtest from my VPS to the speedtest server, if I do a speedtest from MY connection THROUGH the VPS then I get ~300-600mbps depending on the time of day. I've got 1gbps at home.

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