Switched from DSL to CAble, need HELP setting up router

[StraightPipe]

That pretty much says it all.

My main box works fine when connected directly to the cable modem, but when I put the Linksys BFSR41 in the middle, I get nothing. I've gone into 192.168.1.1 to try to change the connection type and ran the connection wizard from WinXP severaly times.

What should I do to get this working?
What should me connection type be? (PPPoE with DSL)

 

[TechnoPro]

Why not do a hard reset on the router and zero out all previous settings? This way, you can start fresh...

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Why not do a hard reset on the router and zero out all previous settings? This way, you can start fresh...

As a bonus, for most DOCSIS compliant cable modems, you'll have a working network after the reset, the defaults are fine!

 

[StraightPipe]

If only things were that simple...

I tried that before, and tried it again just now. I pushed the reset button and held for 10 secs tell all the lights finished flashing.

tried opening home page... ran networking wizard and tried again...

the router says it's set up to automaticaly obtain IP.

What next?

 

[JackMDS]

LOL Keep running the WinXP Wizards, another few time and it will go to the moon.

Log to the Router

1. In the connection entry change from PPPOE the Dynamic IP, or what ever else your Router calls the non PPPOE connection (PPPOE is a DSL Thing).

2. Find the MAC address of you main computer and clone it to the appropriate place in the Router (I do not have here Linksys Gizmo so I can not tell you the exact Linksys names).

Reboot the Router and Voila.

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

Resetting the router to factory defaults should set it to dynamic IP, at least on all the routers I've ever setup. Cloning the MAC is not normally required, but I guess it can't hurt.

 

[TechnoPro]

Actually, this MAC address cloning of the main PC is somewhat outdated. Comcast and other ISPs are registering the MAC address of their cable modems, and not the associated PCs.

 

[Matthias99]

I had a recent Linksys router (the wireless version of the one it sounds like you have) and it simply flat-out refused to work with my girlfriend's cable modem. Apparently this is a fairly common problem with Linksys' home networking routers and older cable modems (some of them don't negotiate DHCP appropriately, it seems, and the router can't handle it). I ended up swapping it for a Netgear router, which worked fine, but I found no way to get the Linksys one to work. I ended up using it at my apartment (hooked up to a Motorola SB5100 cable modem), where it functions perfectly.

 

[JackMDS]

Did you hear about the Professor of Statistics that end up drowning in a pond of 1? average depth.?

It seems that a Lot of People do not know about MAC cloning or PPPOE and unless you mention it You never know. There is less usage of PC Mac by ISP but it is still there (The 1? average).

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

Jack, when you're right, you're right! It hurts nothing to clone the MAC, and it won't hurt anything.

 

[Finnkc]

all I did was reset the router (Link SyS 4 port) and used the default settings and it should work fine.

DSL needs to be modifed in order to work but most Cable ISPs you can get away with default settings.

 

[WobbleWobble]

Originally posted by: gunrunnerjohn

As a bonus, for most DOCSIS compliant cable modems, you'll have a working network after the reset, the defaults are fine!

I hate to lead away from the original post, but could you please explain how having a DOCSIS compliant modem is different than a non-compliant one? With respect to using a router that is.

 

[gunrunnerjohn]

I'm simply not sure what you'd have to do for cable modems, other than the DOCSIS modems, it's my legal disclaimer. For most cable services nowadays, the MAC address of the modem is tied to the local subnet, and you don't have to have any special configuration in your network to access it. DHCP is used to obtain the IP and DNS addresses with either the directly connected machine or router. I know it wasn't always that simple, but I didn't have broadband available to me then.

 

[Bad Dude]

If your cable provider is Aldelphia then you need to copy the MAC to your router for it to work. AT&T or RoadRunner if there are still around.

 

[StraightPipe]

ComCast Cable, still havent gotten it (been off for a day).

I'm looking for the mac address now.

Edit: is MAC address the same as "Physical address"?

 

[PowerEngineer]

Originally posted by: TechnoPro
Actually, this MAC address cloning of the main PC is somewhat outdated. Comcast and other ISPs are registering the MAC address of their cable modems, and not the associated PCs.

I'm sure this is true for many Comcast users, but here (in SW Washington) I had to clone my MAC address from the PC I was originally using with @Home years ago in order to get connected shortly after Comcast took over AT&T Broadband. The interesting thing was that I hadn't needed that cloned MAC address while on AT&T! And when I recently had a billing snafu with Comcast and had to reinitialize my service using my new rig, I then had to clone its address to the router. Perhaps this has something to do with the age of my cable modem.

As others have said, it doesn't hurt to clone the address...and it might just help :beer:

 

[Pex]

Originally posted by: StraightPipe

Edit: is MAC address the same as "Physical address"?

yup

 

[InlineFive]

1. Most providers use the router MAC address now! So don't change anything else.
2. When you open IE on an attached computer some providers link you to a site for registering your MAC with their server.
3. If that doesn't happen call tech support to register your MAC.

This is how it works.

-Por

 

[Carp1812]

I've had this problem before with this router. My solution follows:
Factory reset the router. Set your PC to automatically obtain an IP address. Hook up all ethernet cables. Unplug the power cord from the router. Unplug the power cord from the cable modem. Plug the modem back in and wait until the diagnostic lights stabilize (+/- 30 seconds). Then plug the router back in and wait for the diagnostic lights to stabilize (+/- 30 seconds). Now run (assuming you have Win2k or XP) "ipconfig /renew" from a command prompt (without the quotes). In my case, the addition of the router screwed up the connection between the modem and the PC. If I allowed the modem to obtain the external IP then connected the router, all worked perfectly. Good luck.