Swiftech H20-120 Compact vs Coolit Freezone

[PCTC2]

Finally. A competitor of compact preassembled watercooling setups that is actually competitive.

The Swiftech H20-120 Compact is similar to the Coolit Freezone in size, but achieves great performance for a single-120mm radiator system w/out a reservoir.

Sham over at VR-Zone tested it on a QX6850 @ 3.3GHz and got 60C temperatures under load.

Less power consumption, great performance, small form factor.

For all of those Freezone threads that popped up recently, this is a great alternative if you don't want to build a custom loop.

Link to VR-Zone

EDIT: I'd like to see this directly compared to the Freezone in performance/watt(electricity) and general temperatures and sound levels.

 

[Raider1284]

where can you buy these new swiftech parts though. I was looking for them the other day and couldnt find anyplace selling them. Are they out in stores now?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: PCTC2
Finally. A competitor of compact preassembled watercooling setups that is actually competitive.

The Swiftech H20-120 Compact is similar to the Coolit Freezone in size, but achieves great performance for a single-120mm radiator system w/out a reservoir.

Sham over at VR-Zone tested it on a QX6850 @ 3.3GHz and got 60C temperatures under load.

Less power consumption, great performance, small form factor.

For all of those Freezone threads that popped up recently, this is a great alternative if you don't want to build a custom loop.

Link to VR-Zone

EDIT: I'd like to see this directly compared to the Freezone in performance/watt(electricity) and general temperatures and sound levels.

nononononononononononono please do not use this as a choice for watercooling a QX.

You dont understand how many times i went it out with gabe on the thread where OPP leaked this info on XS. This product will work great on a dual core, but a quadcore is too much if overclocking is your concern. And even if overclocking isnt your concern then why are you on water? The graph shows this kit being a LITTLE better then a scythe infinity.

The TR120 being a little better then the scythe infinity. So that translates this product will probably = a TR120 extreme LApped solution in relationship to cooling temps.

THIS PRODUCT IS NOT A WORTHWHILE MIGRATION INTO WATER! i cant stress this enough on XS, and on this forum.


Here are some problems we noticed when this product was released:

1. Apogee Direct drive uses a Modified TOP on a ApogeeGT. This makes the block and pump a single unit solution. Its a great concept, however, the DDC-1 which is the top portion causes a lot of Vibration. The whole unit has no form of vibration absorbing material, which then turns all that vibration on your CPU socket.

2. The QX series is known to push about 135W TDP. Thats stock, now you overclock it and ANY quadcore can push well over 200W of heat. This is shown messured and tested. When people think water, "oh i have more room to oc" that 200W TDP can extend to as much as 225-240W depending on your OC setting. The MCR120 which is utilized in this kit was shown by its creator, Bill Adams to only do 150-200W at most. You now have stressed that poor radiator out with that kind of load.


IF you guys are looking for a simple solution, look for the upgraded version with the MCR220. This should handle a Quadcore, but dont expect to get super temps on that either. A quadcore needs a 120x3 class radiator.

And please dont try to be smart and drop GPU blocks in either one of these kits. People run 120x3 or PA120.3 to pull that kind of objective off.

 

[PCTC2]

Haha. Thanks aigo. Just posting something other than a Freezone.

Remember the kit I was supposed to get? Yeah, well I crashed my car. I'm on air for the next year again.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

The TR120 being a little better then the scythe infinity.

I wouldn't call 20-27*C difference at 3666mhz for a Quad a little better.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: aigomorla

The TR120 being a little better then the scythe infinity.

I wouldn't call 20-27*C difference at 3666mhz for a Quad a little better.

thats not what people are aiming at when they get this kit. If your aiming at such a high overclock then i seriously recomend a custom setup.

I was defending this comment back at XS. The MCR220 VERSION will come out soon, so why would you want to get this kit over that when the MCR220 has 2x the heat capacity of this unit? The cost difference between the two radiators is 10-20 dollars at most. And swiftech aint the type of company to rip people off, so im assuming they will keep the price proportional.

And if you look at the modest overclock, not the 3.66, the margin is very small with an air sink. If your aiming at 3.66ghz, your going to need some really beefy cooling on the board as well, because you'll be turning up those fsb and NB voltages to compensate for the 400+ fsb. Also the Review was taken with the radiator externally. Most people will mount this radiator internally off the rear. So results will vary.

In all, Just wait people for the MCR220 version. The 120x2 radiator instead of a 120x1 radiator. You'll be much happier with its performance and price ratio.

 

[RussianSensation]

aigomorla, the MCR220 definately looks more promising from what you have described. Watercooling seems like a very interesting idea in that after the first initial investment, it'll slowly recoup itself. Come to think of it from my personal experience I tend to buy a new air cooler every time I get a new platform (XP, P4, C2D, C2Q) and every time they are $40+. But can one expect for these kits to support future platforms in say 5 years with new mounting mechanisms? Also correct me if I am wrong, but if you aimed for good bang for the buck price performance would you be better off buying separate gpu/cpu/northbridge blocks and a radiator than in these preassembled kits?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
aigomorla, the MCR220 definately looks more promising from what you have described. Watercooling seems like a very interesting idea in that after the first initial investment, it'll slowly recoup itself. Come to think of it from my personal experience I tend to buy a new air cooler every time I get a new platform (XP, P4, C2D, C2Q) and every time they are $40+. But can one expect for these kits to support future platforms in say 5 years with new mounting mechanisms? Also correct me if I am wrong, but if you aimed for good bang for the buck price performance would you be better off buying separate gpu/cpu/northbridge blocks and a radiator than in these preassembled kits?

i cant answer that question for ya because i dont have the direct drive apogee.

From my inspection tho, im assuming it will only fit 1 socket. So there would be a AM2 version and LGA775 version. The mounting holes dont look very universal compared to there apogee.

 

[PCTC2]

if you read the review, it comes with the 775 bracket attached and it comes with an "AMD mounting bracket".

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: PCTC2
if you read the review, it comes with the 775 bracket attached and it comes with an "AMD mounting bracket".

ahhh thank you. I didnt care to read it any more then the results.

As i said, its best to wait it out a little bit and wait for the 220 version. That should be very promising.