Swift Boat Veterans Tell Kerry to 'Cease and Desist'

[charrison]

Stop using our faces in your campaign material, eleven Swift Boat veterans have told Sen. John F. Kerry. The veterans are all from the unit in which Sen. John Kerry served.

In their letter to the Kerry Campaign, the Swift Boat veterans warned of legal action, unless "the blatant abuse of their images by the Kerry Campaign cease immediately."

The photograph in question was taken in January 1969. It has appeared in the March 8 Newsweek issue and in a Kerry campaign ad.

The veterans said they have sent earlier letters to Kerry headquarters, alerting Kerry staffers about their concerns with his use of the photograph.

"The signers of today's letter object to the use of their photographs in conjunction with the Kerry campaign because they believe that not only is Kerry unfit to serve as the commander-in-chief of the United States, but by using their images, the campaign suggests that these men endorse the senator," said a press release issued by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

The group describes itself as a "tax-exempt, non-partisan public advocacy '527' organization consisting of, and limited to, former military officers and enlisted men who served in Vietnam on U.S. Navy "Swift Boats" or in affiliated commands."

Of the 20 officers shown in the photograph, only two openly support Senator Kerry, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth said. Eleven of the officers in the photo oppose Kerry's bid for the presidency, four wish to remain uninvolved and two are deceased, the press release added.

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[conjur]

OLD news and these swift boat veterans are led by a liar who's been smearing Kerry for years...used to do it under direction from Nixon.


Here ya go:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&threadid=1270566&highlight_key=y&keyword1=john%20o%27neill

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: conjur
OLD news and these swift boat veterans are led by a liar who's been smearing Kerry for years...used to do it under direction from Nixon.

So kerry should be able to use this photo without the consent of the other 17 people in the picture?

 

[conjur]

IMO, Kerry should drop the whole Vietnam veteran aspect of his career and focus on policy for the future. He'll slam Bush rather well in that respect.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: conjur
IMO, Kerry should drop the whole Vietnam veteran aspect of his career and focus on policy for the future. He'll slam Bush rather well in that respect.

Your right, there is no position kerry does not agree with. He should make everyone happy

 

[NeoV]

how is it that the republicans are even bringing up Kerry's service record?

they can just trot out Cheney's record of service...and Bush's.....um....wait a sec....no, they can't seem to 'find' all the necessary paperwork...or something...

this whole thing is ridiculous

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: NeoV
how is it that the republicans are even bringing up Kerry's service record?

they can just trot out Cheney's record of service...and Bush's.....um....wait a sec....no, they can't seem to 'find' all the necessary paperwork...or something...

this whole thing is ridiculous

Bush service record was posted for the press to see...

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NeoV
how is it that the republicans are even bringing up Kerry's service record?

they can just trot out Cheney's record of service...and Bush's.....um....wait a sec....no, they can't seem to 'find' all the necessary paperwork...or something...

this whole thing is ridiculous

Bush's lack of service record was posted for the press to see...

There...fixed that for ya!

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NeoV
how is it that the republicans are even bringing up Kerry's service record?

they can just trot out Cheney's record of service...and Bush's.....um....wait a sec....no, they can't seem to 'find' all the necessary paperwork...or something...

this whole thing is ridiculous

Bush's lack of service record was posted for the press to see...

There...fixed that for ya!

Even if you want to call them lack of service, his records were made public. Which of course means, the same can easily be required of Kerry.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NeoV
how is it that the republicans are even bringing up Kerry's service record?

they can just trot out Cheney's record of service...and Bush's.....um....wait a sec....no, they can't seem to 'find' all the necessary paperwork...or something...

this whole thing is ridiculous

Bush's lack of service record was posted for the press to see...

There...fixed that for ya!

Even if you want to call them lack of service, his records were made public. Which of course means, the same can easily be required of Kerry.

Kerry's records are available on his website, including his medical records:

http://www.johnkerry.com

 

[SuperTool]

Is CNS a spewsmax wannabe?
Anyways, I doubt they have a legal leg to stand on.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NeoV
how is it that the republicans are even bringing up Kerry's service record?

they can just trot out Cheney's record of service...and Bush's.....um....wait a sec....no, they can't seem to 'find' all the necessary paperwork...or something...

this whole thing is ridiculous

Bush's lack of service record was posted for the press to see...

There...fixed that for ya!

Even if you want to call them lack of service, his records were made public. Which of course means, the same can easily be required of Kerry.

Kerry's records are available on his website, including his medical records:

http://www.johnkerry.com

His military records online appear to partial at best and the medical records are only a summary and not official documents. And you have to use the search function to find them....maybe the rest are there....

 

[conjur]

Military records:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/military_records.html

After-Action Combat Reports
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/combat_reports.html

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: conjur
OLD news and these swift boat veterans are led by a liar who's been smearing Kerry for years...used to do it under direction from Nixon.

So kerry should be able to use this photo without the consent of the other 17 people in the picture?

If SBVAK can use the photo why can't Senator Kerry?

"A Kerry spokesman dismissed the group's claim, noting the Swift Boat Veterans used an enlarged version of the same photo at a news conference announcing the anti-Kerry group's formation in early May."

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: conjur
Military records:
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/military_records.html

After-Action Combat Reports
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/combat_reports.html

Well it doesn't show what he had for breakfast on June 21st, so it is only a partial record!:Q

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Is CNS a spewsmax wannabe?
Anyways, I doubt they have a legal leg to stand on.

Yeah, I think you called it. Here's a blurb off the history page for CNS:

The Cybercast News Service was launched on June 16, 1998 as a news source for individuals, news organizations and broadcasters who put a higher premium on balance than spin and seek news that?s ignored or under-reported as a result of media bias by omission.

Study after study by the Media Research Center, the parent organization of CNSNews.com, clearly demonstrate a liberal bias in many news outlets ? bias by commission and bias by omission ? that results in a frequent double-standard in editorial decisions on what constitutes "news."

In response to these shortcomings, MRC Chairman L. Brent Bozell III founded CNSNews.com in an effort to provide an alternative news source that would cover stories that are subject to the bias of omission and report on other news subject to bias by commission.

So they're a "liberal media debunker" or some such thing. :roll:

Oh, and here's their parent org, the Media Research Center

he mission of the Media Research Center is to bring balance and responsibility to the news media. Leaders of America's conservative movement have long believed that within the national news media a strident liberal bias existed that influenced the public's understanding of critical issues. On October 1, 1987, a group of young determined conservatives set out to not only prove - through sound scientific research - that liberal bias in the media does exist and undermines traditional American values, but also to neutralize its impact on the American political scene. What they launched that fall is the now acclaimed --- Media Research Center (MRC).

Ahhhh, I see the conservative crusaders are on a mission. Huzzah!

 

[Infohawk]

If these captains really don't want to be in Kerry's pics., so be it. I hope Kerry just agrees. I'd like to know what kind of contact these captains had with Kerry during the war. I assume they don't like him because of what he did afterwards.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: NeoV
how is it that the republicans are even bringing up Kerry's service record?

they can just trot out Cheney's record of service...and Bush's.....um....wait a sec....no, they can't seem to 'find' all the necessary paperwork...or something...

this whole thing is ridiculous

Bush's lack of service record was posted for the press to see...

There...fixed that for ya!

Even if you want to call them lack of service, his records were made public. Which of course means, the same can easily be required of Kerry.

Kerry's records are available on his website, including his medical records:

http://www.johnkerry.com

His military records online appear to partial at best and the medical records are only a summary and not official documents. And you have to use the search function to find them....maybe the rest are there....

hah, and bush's record is complete? not even. why his conduct wasn't investigated as it should have been under the military code... no information on that at all.

its just a rather desperate tactic for the bush machine to take. their man hid with the help of powerful and rich parents, while kerry chose to serve in units that suffered 75% casualty rates. oh..thats some strong ground to stand on for bush

 

[conjur]

Seems the Kerry campaign has already addressed this issue:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000525379

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: NeoV
how is it that the republicans are even bringing up Kerry's service record?

they can just trot out Cheney's record of service...and Bush's.....um....wait a sec....no, they can't seem to 'find' all the necessary paperwork...or something...

this whole thing is ridiculous

Actually It was Kerry who kept bringing up his service record and there are some veterans that served with him who think it has been embellished somewhat. Who knows? I sure don't but I certainly don't consider commanding a Swift boat in Nam that big a deal on a presidential resume.

 

[GoPackGo]

To some here, Kerry can do no wrong...but in my opinion he is a blaring example of the disarray the democrats find themselves in.

A war protestor for president during a time of war....yeah right!

5 mos is a long time...but if the economy continues to grow...things get better in Iraq then bush wins hands down...

There will be a lot heed taken in the don't change leaders during times of war and this will be no exception.

Oh and if terrorists manage an attack...then thats more votes for Bush.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
To some here, Kerry can do no wrong...but in my opinion he is a blaring example of the disarray the democrats find themselves in.

A war protestor for president during a time of war....yeah right!

As opposed to someone who dodged combat with his daddy's help? BTW, I didn't think we were still at war. I thought we were in the "cleanup" stages. Mission Accomplished, right?

 

[imported_Pablo]

I know i'm bringing this post out of the pits but I just read it, and it seems that with this convention, Kerry's Vietnam service gets brought up again and again. I know its propaganda, but its still a huge lack of support from a group of people that you would think would support a 'war hero'.

http://www.swiftvets.com/

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: PabloMartinez
I know i'm bringing this post out of the pits but I just read it, and it seems that with this convention, Kerry's Vietnam service gets brought up again and again. I know its propaganda, but its still a huge lack of support from a group of people that you would think would support a 'war hero'.

http://www.swiftvets.com/

Which is a better reference the men who served around you or the men you lead? To me the measure of the man is better shown by the men he led!

 

[arsbanned]

The smear campaign is in full swing!