Sweet! This sudafed expired last year. Been nice knowing ya'll!

destrekor

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shhh, don't tell anyone, but aged pharmaceuticals rarely lose any strength even a handful of years after the "expiration date."
 

homercles337

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shhh, don't tell anyone, but aged pharmaceuticals rarely lose any strength even a handful of years after the "expiration date."

Where did you hear this rubbish? I spent many years doing research in ChemBio and compounds, even when stored in ideal conditions, degrade quite rapidly. If a batch is more than 9 months old it is unlikely the known structure is contributing to any bio perturbation.
 

destrekor

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Where did you hear this rubbish? I spent many years doing research in ChemBio and compounds, even when stored in ideal conditions, degrade quite rapidly. If a batch is more than 9 months old it is unlikely the known structure is contributing to any bio perturbation.

What compounds are you referring to? I'll have to dig up what I've read (it has been a few years), but most of the major chemicals I'm thinking of are stable - of course the inactive ingredients do play a part in some cases too.
 

homercles337

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What compounds are you referring to?

Organic small molecules. You know. Drugs or drug-like compounds. Unless you are talking about only Aspirin (which has 13 heavy atoms, 6 of which are aromatized carbons) you are wrong. Flat out wrong.
 

Gillbot

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There was a study posted by the military also, that showed little to no degradation in medicine for up to something like 10 years past it's expiration.
 

jupiter57

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Where did you hear this rubbish? I spent many years doing research in ChemBio and compounds, even when stored in ideal conditions, degrade quite rapidly. If a batch is more than 9 months old it is unlikely the known structure is contributing to any bio perturbation.

Dude!
Doing drugs in High School hardly qualifies as "many years doing research in ChemBio and compounds"!

j/k
:biggrin:
 

Sluggo

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You should check your HOA rules about having expired medication in your house, I'm sure it's in there. :whiste:
 

Phoenix86

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It reads, 'Here may be found the last words of Joseph of Aramathea. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the Holy Grail in the Castle of uuggggggh'.
 

dr150

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What compounds are you referring to? I'll have to dig up what I've read (it has been a few years), but most of the major chemicals I'm thinking of are stable - of course the inactive ingredients do play a part in some cases too.

I've always viewed expiration dates on pharma products as a big company conspiracy theory to get you to throw perfectly good shit to buy some more. My wife buys into it...I don't.

All I know, is that I take 3 year after expiration date Excedrin and it still kills my headache. Same goes for allergy pills and anything else I can think of.
 

destrekor

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I've always viewed expiration dates on pharma products as a big company conspiracy theory to get you to throw perfectly good shit to buy some more. My wife buys into it...I don't.

All I know, is that I take 3 year after expiration date Excedrin and it still kills my headache. Same goes for allergy pills and anything else I can think of.

It's not really a conspiracy though.

It's the furthest out a manufacturer is willing to guarantee full potency and effectiveness without complications - sometimes, once it's out of the their hands, and who knows where you keep it, shit can go wrong, and people MAY get hurt. If pills "hurt" you, and they are expired (and they never hurt you before), it's quite likely either completely unconnected to the pills, or something happened that wasn't originally a defect in that batch. The manufacturer shouldn't be responsible, and after such date they are cleared of such in most cases. Of course, just that type of situation is incredibly rare.

But really, like most things, it shifts the "thinking" toward the consumer - if they care to keep abreast of accurate knowledge, cool; if they do not want to think and instead be an ignorant fool, well, cool. Companies aren't really making the dates they do as part of a conspiracy, it's more because dates have to be there, and testing for a decade or longer would be expensive, and thus also likely increases cost to consumer. We may want the former, but we don't want the latter, right?
 

Fritzo

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When I worked in a hospital, a doctor told me that expired pills don't go bad, they just break down in their effectiveness. For instance, Motrin 3 years out of day may only be 50% effective.

Liquid medications can go bad though. They can develop mold and should be thrown out if seriously out of date.
 

destrekor

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When I worked in a hospital, a doctor told me that expired pills don't go bad, they just break down in their effectiveness. For instance, Motrin 3 years out of day may only be 50% effective.

Liquid medications can go bad though. They can develop mold and should be thrown out if seriously out of date.

Yep, liquid pharms can and do go bad, as well as any lipid-based pharms. But the majority of medications do not fit either profile.