Swedish Navy searching for potential Russian Sub.

[cabri]

It was on the BBC as well.

Its more a story that there might be a damaged sub around than its Russian though isn't it?

Many countries have subs creeping around the place, that's the whole point of them.

Subs have different sounds that are unique to either the hull or the class.

 

[burninatortech4]

I would love to see Sweden embarrass the shit out of Russia.

 

[WelshBloke]

Well if the Russians say they have no ships in the area then they will have no problem with the Swedish military using depth charges to surface the submarine.

Haven't the Swedish done that before to the Russians?
There's something deep down in my brain that needs depth charging to bring it to the surface, but that scenario sounds familiar.

 

[WelshBloke]

Subs have different sounds that are unique to either the hull or the class.

I just meant that isn't it kind of assumed that countries are sneaking around in subs ignoring international borders?
I just thought that that was what subs did.

 

[norseamd]

I just meant that isn't it kind of assumed that countries are sneaking around in subs ignoring international borders? I just thought that that was what subs did.

Yes but obviously the militaries also exist in the geopolitical landscape. It would be dumb for the Russians to do this for no reasonable use given the current political situation. They were obviously there on some type of clandestine mission and this is not an isolated incident this year in the Northern European geopolitical-militarial area.

There is a huge list of incidents with the Swedish and Finnish since the start of the Ukraine war.

 

[norseamd]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ia+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

 

[cabri]

Russia continues to "test" Swedish "detection capabilities" Link

• 1962: During a military exercise, a submarine is discovered by radar echo and hydrophone, north of Fårö at Gotland. It retreats only after repeated depth charge strikes.[1]
• 1-24 October 1966: At 0500 a submarine was reported being sighted in Gullmarsfjorden and warning shots where fired by nearby forces. Other sightings followed by warning shots were repeated during the following days.
• After many days of continued search for submarines in the vicinity something suddenly happened. At October 24 at mid day a submarine turret was spotted outside the naval depot ÖGull, deep inside Gullmarsfjorden. Two fishing type mine sweepers from the mine sweeping division at Lysekil immediately went out and managed to establish sonar contact with an object standing still at 10 meters below surface. After having established the exact position of the underwater object, the minesweeper Hasslö was called in to fire warning shots at the location, while the other minesweepers kept contact with their sonar. Contact was lost briefly due to stirred up water and the sweeper's propeller wake.
  
• After two hours since the first sighting one of the minesweepers managed to position itself on top of the located object. It then lowered a cable with a 100kg weight attached to confirm the existence of a solid underwater object. The wire slacked at a depth of 10m. As the sweeper moved forwards the weight was dragged on top of the object for a while and then fell down, stretching the wire as it did so.
  
• Immediately after this, the other sweepers both noticed stirred up water, a possible sign of submarine propellers in motion. The sweeper Hasslö then dropped a depth charge 300m away from the echo location and soon after got a radar contact from an object having breached the surface and went down again. Another depth charge was dropped, this time on the exact target location. The echo now disappeared and was not found again despite the search going on through the night followed by helicopters joining in the morning. At dawn (now the 25th) Hasslö moved southwards and after a while its crew spotted a submarine periscope above the surface. The helicopter group was scrambled to the location, managed to establish contact with the submarine and attacked with depth charges. After that the contact with the submarine was lost.[2]
  
• Autumn 1969: During a naval drill on the coast of Norrland, the Swedish submarine Springaren comes into contact with a foreign submarine in Swedish waters; it leaves the scene.[3]
• 1974: A submarine periscope is spotted by the Swedish Coast Guard near Kappelhamnsviken on Gotland. A destroyer is sent to the scene and establishes contact, at which point the foreign submarine leaves Swedish waters.[1]
• Autumn 1976: During a naval drill in the Stockholm Archipelago, a Soviet Type W submarine exposes itself by using radar, outside Swedish territorial waters. A Swedish submarine monitors the Soviet vessel entering Swedish waters, and records sounds from it. When Swedish submarine-hunting helicopters and destroyers arrive, it speeds out towards international waters and disappears.[4]
• 18 September to 6 October 1980: The Swedish Marine tugboat Ajax discovers the turret of a submarine outside Utö in the Stockholm Archipelago. Submarine hunting helicopters are dispatched to the scene, establish contact, and fire warning shots. The submarine does not leave the area, but attempts to avoid capture, and a prolonged submarine hunt began. This lasted for several weeks, during which time the submarine is repeatedly sighted.[1][5]
• October 27, 1981: The U 137 incident. On the evening of October 28, 1981, a fisherman residing in the eastern part of the Karlskrona archipelago phoned in to the Swedish Coast Guard and reported that a submarine had run aground in Gåsefjärden, 30 km from the town centre of Karlskrona. Originally, it was not taken seriously because of its location, as Gåsefjärden is a very difficult terrain to navigate in, as well as being a "dead end". Nevertheless, the fisherman was right, and the vessel was found to be of Soviet origin. The grounded submarine generated intense media interest, and Swedish military forces were put on high alert following suspicions that the Soviet Union would try to recapture the vessel. After several rounds of interrogation, the conservative/Liberal government led by Thorbjörn Fälldin decided to release both the vessel and its crew. This marked the beginning of the "submarine hunts" (ubåtsjakter), as nicknamed by Swedish media.
• October 1–13, 1982: The Hårsfjärden incident. After a long period of submarine incidents, the Swedish Navy sets a trap by sealing off an area with mines and sensors. A foreign submarine is then recognized to have entered the trap, and the navy responds in force with major forces stationed nearby. A reported 44 depth charges and 4 naval mines are detonated, trying to sink the submarine, but it is later determined that it avoided the trap or fled at an early stage. This incident triggers the appointment of a parliamentary committee under the leadership of Sven Andersson, which—partly due to the efforts of Carl Bildt—blames the Soviet Union, thereby escalating tension with Moscow. Later research has cast doubt on many of the conclusions of the committee, with some of the sound recordings from the purported submarine now believed to have come from a civilian ship.[6] The entire incident is now hotly disputed, with some arguing the submarine may have been of NATO origin.[7]
• May 4, 1983: A suspected submarine is reported in Törefjärden, North of Luleå, and mines are detonated.
• May 1983: Submarine hunt outside Sundsvall. Helicopters establish contact with a foreign submarine, but are unable to fire, reportedly because civilian journalists have entered the safety area.[8]
• Summer 1983: Submarine hunt in Töreviken.
• August 1983: Submarine hunt in the harbor area of Karlskrona and in the adjoining archipelago. Depth charges are fired inside Karlskrona harbor.
• February 9–29, 1984: Another submarine hunt in Karlskrona. 22 depth charges are fired against a suspected submarine.
• Early summer 1986: A "mysterious object" is reported "diving into the water" in Klintehamnsviken on Gotland. The sea floor is examined, and double-track trace is discovered, allegedly from a submarine vehicle, extending 1100 meters.
• June 1987: Another submarine hunt in Törefjärden.
• Summer 1987: While examining the magnetic sensors of a minefield in Kappelshamnsviken on Gotland, the military discovers "clear traces on the bottom from a tracked submarine vehicle".
• Early summer 1988: A suspected foreign submarine is noticed in Hävringebukten outside Oxelösund. Submarine sounds and air venting is said to have been recorded.
• April 13, 2011: A possible foreign submarine is noticed in Baggensfjärden in Nacka. The Swedish Armed Forces' Naval Tactical intelligence service, MTS-M2 investigated the incident.[9] Later it was confirmed that the object was really a raft frozen in moving ice.[10]
• September 11, 2011: An eyewitness contacts the Swedish armed forces after seeing something outside the harbor of Gothenburg that possibly could have been a foreign submarine. The Swedish Navy deployed several surface warships in an attempt to locate the unknown object.[11][12]
• October 17-20, 2014: A large military operation is launched to search for an allegedly damaged submarine in Kanholmsfjärden in the Stockholm archipelago. Encrypted transmissions sent on an emergency radio frequency used by Russian units were recorded. The sources of the transmissions were identified as a submarine and a military site in the Kaliningrad region.[13][14][15][16] On 19 October the military said there had been three separate sightings and released a picture of the unidentified submarine to the public.[17] There were also suggestions that the Russian Oil-tanker NS Concord was involved as a mother-ship for smaller underwater vehicles as it maintained a pattern of criss-crossing outside Stockholm during the investigation.[18]

 

[norseamd]

http://defensetech.org/2015/07/28/suspected-russian-mini-submarine-found-off-swedish-coast/

 

[Londo_Jowo]

LMAO!!!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-looking-craft-covered-Cyrillic-letters.html

A Russian submarine discovered by shipwreck hunters off the eastern coast of Sweden is believed to be a Tsarist vessel which sank after a collision with a ship during the First World War.

Swedish Armed Forces said the modern-looking vessel, with Cyrillic letters written on the hull, was likely to be Russian submarine the Som (Catfish) which collided with a Swedish ship in poor visibility, killing all 18 crew members, in 1916.