Swedish car tire test: Can anyone translate?

Eug

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I can't read any of the text because it's too small and I don't read any swedish anyway, but google translate gets me this far for the test headings:

acceleration on ice
braking on ice
circle driving (? cornering) on ice
handling on ice
grip in slush
stability
noise
acceleration on snow
braking on snow
driving on slope on snow
braking on wet road
braking on dry road
handling on snow
handling on wet road

Are all these headings correct?
 
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Eug

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Where do you see that? My main interest in this review is the fact they review two identical model tires in different widths, side-by-side: Nokian tires, in the 205 and 225 mm width.

I can't read any of the text, but as long as I have the headings right and can read the tables, that's good enough in a pinch. However, that comment about sidewall pressures seems interesting. Where is it?

And what is "circle driving". Is that really driving in a circle, or does it mean cornering?
 

PingviN

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Acceleration on ice
Braking on ice
Going in a circle @ 75-80km/h
Handling on ice
Grip in slush
Stability
Noise
Acceleration on snow
Braking on snow
Driving uphill on snow
Braking on wet roads
Braking on dry roads
Handling on snow
Handling on wet roads

So yeah, you're correct
 

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Eug, nevermind me, it was a reference to a complete idiot on this forum telling everyone to inflate their tires to their maximum sidewall values for best performance.

Forum lore and all that.
 

Eug

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Eug, nevermind me, it was a reference to a complete idiot on this forum telling everyone to inflate their tires to their maximum sidewall values for best performance.

Forum lore and all that.
Oh I see. Hahah. I haven't been hanging around here enough. ;)

P.S. As been mentioned before by others in The Garage forum, the narrower tires do significantly better in most of the winter tests vs. the wider ones. This is the first time I've seen the actual results though.
 

MongGrel

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I had a Swedish Girlfriend two years ago. She was hot. Kind of neurotic though.

Swedish girlfriends are usually pretty hot.

Have had a few girlfriends in the past when living in the Midwest.

The ones that are not snatched up are usually a bit neurotic.
 

Iron Woode

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last time I checked out a Swedish tire test they went with a studded snow tire with an odd name.
 

destrekor

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If you want further detail, there are plenty of English sources that compare winter tires.

Google search: winter tire comparison tests

I used these styles of searches and comparisons to determine that, yes, I very much needed a dedicated set of winter tires. I've still been rocking the set of all-seasons for my non-winter tires, just because I haven't been able to afford a new set of tires and a new set of wheels because that set has a misshapen aluminum wheel. I'll be getting a whole wheel/tire package after this season.

I'll never return to running with only a single set of wheels and tires. The difference in winter grip in all conditions (even cold and dry, let alone cold rain or any sort of snow) is remarkable.
 

Eug

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Actually I was just interested in the same winter tire in different sizes. Wide vs. narrow. This test has the same tire at 205 mm and 225 mm. The 205 wins.
 

destrekor

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Actually I was just interested in the same winter tire in different sizes. Wide vs. narrow. This test has the same tire at 205 mm and 225 mm. The 205 wins.

Oh, and yup, 205 is basically a perfect winter tire width. Wider contact patches can be great for most conditions driving, but in snow you want to cut through it.

Haven't looked closely at it due to the language barrier, but does the thinner tires compare less favorably on ice and day-to-day driving? I suspect their only real benefit improvement is in snow conditions, possibly cold rain as well.
 

Eug

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Acceleration on ice
7.6 Nokian 205
8.0 Gislaved
8.1 Falken
8.3 Hankook
8.4 Nokian 225
8.5 Michelin
10.2 Goodyear
11.7 Fulda

Braking on ice (meters)
17.4 Gislaved
17.5 Nokian 225
17.7 Nokian 215
18.3 Falken
18.4 Hankook
19.0 Michelin
20.5 Goodyear
23.0 Fulda

Going in a circle @ 75-80km/h
41.x Nokian 225
41.x Nokian 205
41.x Gislaved
44.7 Falken
45.5 Michelin
47.6 Hankook
50.3 Goodyear
54.5 Fulda

Handling on ice
82.0 Nokian 205
83.4 Gislaved
83.8 Nokian 225
86.2 Michelin
87.1 Falken
88.6 Hankook
91.2 Goodyear
98.7 Fulda

Grip in slush
??? Two sets of scores

Stability
5 Fulda
4 Gislaved
4 Goodyear
4 Michelin
3 Nokian 205
3 Nokian 225
2 Falken
2 Hankook

Noise
You can read the table but the Nokians fared the worst

Acceleration on snow
6.5 Nokian 205
6.7 Nokian 225
6.7 Falken
6.9 Gislaved
6.9 Hankook
7.1 Michelin
7.6 Goodyear
7.9 Fulda

Braking on snow (meters)
22.5 Nokian 205
23.8 Gislaved
24.6 Goodyear
24.8 Michelin
25.4 Hankook
26.0 Nokian 225
26.3 Falken
28.1 Fulda

Driving uphill on snow
58.0 Nokian 205
60.0 Gislaved
60.1 Nokian 225
60.x Michelin
61.4 Falken
62.2 Hankook
63.3 Goodyear
70.5 Fulda

Braking on wet roads
16.8 Goodyear
17.5 Fulda
18.2 Gislaved
20.5 Hankook
20.6 Michelin
21.1 Nokian 205
22.0 Nokian 225
22.3 Falken

Braking on dry roads
17.0 Goodyear
17.0 Fulda
17.5 Gislaved
17.5 Nokian 205
17.9 Hankook
18.0 Falken
18.0 Michelin
18.0 Nokian 225

Handling on snow
5 Nokian 205
4 Gislaved
4 Goodyear
4 Michelin
4 Nokian 225
3 Falken
2 Fulda
2 Hankook

Handling on wet roads
4 Goodyear
4 Fulda
3 Gislaved
3 Michelin
3 Nokian 205
3 Nokian 205
2 Falken
2 Hankook
 

Yuriman

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I have 165 Nokians on my car, and would highly recommend the brand. :thumbsup:

They're considerably "mushier" than my summer tires, maybe that's what the "stability" number refers to.

Friends and family are constantly surprised by the conditions I'm able to drive in. This morning I easily drove around my father-in-law's Prius, which couldn't get out of his sheet-of-ice-up-a-hill driveway on his winter Coopers (185?). A few weeks back I helped pull my father's F150 out of his own driveway, which he was unable to get any traction on due to deep snow (235 Firestones, I think?). They cost a bit more, but going with high-rated winter tires seems to make a tremendous difference.